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Which goes under first: COTA or Indycar? 
hunnert car pileup fucked around with this message at 02:52 on Feb 1, 2014 |
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Feb 1, 2014 02:46
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VikingSkull posted:The only real cool thing about CotA is the elevation change, that owns. The rest is new and shiny and modern, so it seems cooler than it is, but outside of those two things it's never going to be on the level of Laguna Seca, Road Atlanta, the Glen etc. etc. Everybody does this, unless the track is absolutely terrible (Caesar's Palace)
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Feb 1, 2014 02:53
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I think we should never mention COTA in this thread ever again, unless Indycar is actually racing there.
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Feb 1, 2014 02:59
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animeliker posted:Everybody does this, unless the track is absolutely terrible (Caesar's Palace) I don't see many people reminiscing about Valencia or Yeongam.
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Feb 1, 2014 03:03
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I have a theory about what makes F1-style tracks bad. Let's see if you agree with it: The terribleness of a track is directly proportional to its width.* *Unless the entire track is an airport, in which case the inverse is true.
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Feb 1, 2014 03:15
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If concrete run-off is included in track width, I agree.
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Feb 1, 2014 03:56
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VikingSkull posted:The only real cool thing about CotA is the elevation change, that owns. The rest is new and shiny and modern, so it seems cooler than it is, but outside of those two things it's never going to be on the level of Laguna Seca, Road Atlanta, the Glen etc. etc. Laguna Seca is a terrible layout. Its like log flume, a very boring slow rise of isolated corners to the one interesting part.
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Feb 1, 2014 04:11
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I feel like I just walked into bizarro-land where all y’all are bitching about a new, and also awesome, road course that was built in the middle of the US. All the races I’ve seen (on TV) so far have been above average as road courses go and the drivers and the people actually there all seem really positive about it. Thank Christ a new road course got built in the states, I hope as many series’ as possible run there. And Laguna Seca is loving amazing (except the getting in and out of it part)and I won’t hear anything else about it. But it always was and always will be a motorcycle track first. 
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Feb 1, 2014 04:29
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poopzilla posted:I feel like I just walked into bizarro-land where all y’all are bitching about a new, and also awesome, road course that was built in the middle of the US. All the races I’ve seen (on TV) so far have been above average as road courses go and the drivers and the people actually there all seem really positive about it. Thank Christ a new road course got built in the states, I hope as many series’ as possible run there. You think this is bad you should see me bitch about Barber!
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Feb 1, 2014 04:35
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Monticello Motor Club is how American road courses should be built, CotA seems like they airlifted a track here from Europe. It looks artificial, and the truly great American road courses have a common theme of all more or less looking like features of the natural landscape. I think that's my personal reason for disliking CotA. Uncle Jam posted:Laguna Seca is a terrible layout. Its like log flume, a very boring slow rise of isolated corners to the one interesting part. You gotta admit, though, that one interesting part is extra interesting.
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Feb 1, 2014 04:36
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VikingSkull posted:Monticello Motor Club is how American road courses should be built, CotA seems like they airlifted a track here from Europe. It looks artificial, and the truly great American road courses have a common theme of all more or less looking like features of the natural landscape. I think that's just the natural progression of new racing tracks with seating capacity, safety standards etc. Ovals here were more part of the natural landscape and now it just cookie cutter hell. Old European roadcourses were the same way, its just that there are so few people building new roadcourses in the US you don't really get that transformation.
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Feb 1, 2014 05:09
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VikingSkull posted:You gotta admit, though, that one interesting part is extra interesting. My ideal vision is to have NASCAR/Sportscars run Sears Point, and have Indy run at Laguna Seca. Laguna Seca and why it's cool/important to IndyCar racing: -Has a straight named after Bobby Rahal -Served as the "Championship Round" for the sport from 1989 to 1996 -Has hosted some form of an "Open Wheel Race" (gently caress it grouping Can-Am in this) from 1960 to 2004 -Racer winners have included the following: Stirling Moss, Roger Penske, Phil Hill, Bruce McLaren, Mark Donohue, Mario Andretti, Bobby Rahal, Al Unser, Al Unser Jr., Bobby Rahal, Danny Sullivan, Michael Andretti, Paul Tracy, Gil De Ferren, Alex Zanardi, Jimmy Vasser, and Helio Castroneves. And most importantly: -THE PASS, THE PASS, THE PASS, THE PASS, THE PASS! THE loving PASS! ALEX ZANARADI IS AWESOME, AS IS THE CORKSCREW.
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Feb 1, 2014 05:13
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I have never liked Sears Point at all.
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Feb 1, 2014 05:20
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I thought the Corkscrew was the best thing in the world. Then I saw the downhill run at Mount Panorama for the first time, and I was like  I still get a tingly feeling when I see a line of motorcycles plow down the 'Screw on the first lap, though.
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Feb 1, 2014 05:24
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WindyMan posted:I thought the Corkscrew was the best thing in the world. Then I saw the downhill run at Mount Panorama for the first time, and I was like Yeah its not a bad motorcycle track, I'll admit.
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Feb 1, 2014 05:27
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Fag Boy Jim posted:I have never liked Sears Point at all. Yeah, its a better actual race track than Laguna but with like zero of Laguna's _-~*soul*~-_ I've never really liked Mid Ohio. It seems like an awesome track to drive and it's got a lot of the things I love about tracks, but actually watching the races run there has never done much for me.
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Feb 1, 2014 05:49
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Cygni posted:Yeah, its a better actual race track than Laguna but with like zero of Laguna's _-~*soul*~-_ Mid-Ohio is a track you really have to be at physically to understand it's "mystique". It's very cool to walk around, see the various sections (Turn 1, The Keyhole, Turn 4, Thunder Valley) and how the drivers adjust to them. It has a "Camping site" vibe to it, which I imagine Road America has as well. Not to mention the surroundings are actually very beautiful. On TV? Yeah it's boring as hell. You miss pretty much everything about it that makes it a unique circuit.
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Feb 1, 2014 06:15
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FuzzySkinner posted:Mid-Ohio is a track you really have to be at physically to understand it's "mystique". Agreed. You also really don't get a good feel for the elevation changes at Mid-Ohio on TV. The Madness section is pretty steep, and it's a nice little climb going up into the keyhole. EDIT: Not really (and by that I mean not at all) designed with open wheel in mind, but I think it would be cool to have a race at Road Atlanta. George Zimmer fucked around with this message at 06:30 on Feb 2, 2014 |
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Feb 2, 2014 06:26
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http://motorsportstalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/23/indycar-simona-de-silvestro-still-pursuing-sponsorship-for-2014-season/ Simona currently doesn't have a seat for the upcoming season, from what I can see...
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Feb 3, 2014 23:53
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ellspurs posted:http://motorsportstalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/23/indycar-simona-de-silvestro-still-pursuing-sponsorship-for-2014-season/ She needs a ride but I have a bad feeling that she won't get one this year and gently caress any team that doesn't give her a ride.
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Feb 4, 2014 00:24
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front wing flexing posted:The only thing that's true in your post is that it's basically in a desert. But a lot of race tracks are in the desert. The entire frontstretch complex (hard left onto the straight which starts a climb 2/3rds of the way down with a hard left at the end) was ripped off from Laguna Seca. It's a mishmash of "things that worked on other tracks so let's make a highlight reel". Peanut President posted:You think this is bad you should see me bitch about Barber! Barber is A Bad Track and there are tons of tracks which should have its date. I hate that track for both Rolex (USCR) and Indy. CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 01:02 on Feb 4, 2014 |
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Feb 4, 2014 01:00
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CBJSprague24 posted:Barber is A Bad Track and there are tons of tracks which should have its date. I hate that track for both Rolex (USCR) and Indy. THIS. Is there really no other road course in the south that's available that time of year? Sebring would be cool.
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Feb 4, 2014 01:34
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George Zimmer posted:THIS. Is there really no other road course in the south that's available that time of year? Sebring would be cool. We could just go oval? Atlanta and Charlotte seem like they'd be good to see some Indy Car racing at.
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Feb 4, 2014 02:00
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George Zimmer posted:THIS. Is there really no other road course in the south that's available that time of year? Sebring would be cool. None with a Honda plant nearby.
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Feb 4, 2014 02:12
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It's a loving travesty that Simona has no ride.
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Feb 4, 2014 02:13
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FuzzySkinner posted:We could just go oval? I'm not opposed. gret posted:None with a Honda plant nearby. Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I get it.
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Feb 4, 2014 02:14
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CBJSprague24 posted:The entire frontstretch complex (hard left onto the straight which starts a climb 2/3rds of the way down with a hard left at the end) was ripped off from Laguna Seca. It's a mishmash of "things that worked on other tracks so let's make a highlight reel". It was literally two rich guys drawing poo poo on looseleaf in a kitchen, and then they made Tilke build facilities around it. In a way its awesome because if I had that much money and building a track I sure as hell wouldn't let anyone else design the layout for me.
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Feb 4, 2014 02:33
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FuzzySkinner posted:We could just go oval? I think they're pretty gun shy from adding more mile and a halfers after the Wheldon incident and especially not ones as steep as Atlanta and Charlotte. Texas is probably their threshold for the number of those ovals.
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Feb 4, 2014 02:44
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kidcoelacanth posted:It's a loving travesty that Simona has no ride. Only thing I can think of if she does TUSC or something else for the year. There were not top flight or even mid flight teams open for her to go. Hey Don Panoz, get a 2nd DeltaWing put Kat Legge, Simona, and that chick in the Conti series that won in the BMW. Bring back the all women team that 1991 Le Mans had... and paint the car fleshy pink color... for certain reasons we can laugh at.
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Feb 4, 2014 03:34
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Uncle Jam posted:It was literally two rich guys drawing poo poo on looseleaf in a kitchen, and then they made Tilke build facilities around it. In a way its awesome because if I had that much money and building a track I sure as hell wouldn't let anyone else design the layout for me. That's literally how all race tracks are made. Who do you think builds race tracks? Bored rich people do. edit: and not at you, but  at "the front straight of CotA is the same as Laguna." Hard left onto the straight, ok. But then CotA goes straight up into the sky for the hard left back. Laguna dives down into a hellish double apex that is the bain of my vidja game/fantasy career.edit 2: I fuckin' love Turn 2! that horrid bitch... poopzilla fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Feb 4, 2014 |
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Feb 4, 2014 03:38
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I like Bama, sry.  And Simona hasn't done enough to be qualified as a 'travesty' if she can't get a ride. Hell yeah, too unpopular opinions in one post.
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Feb 4, 2014 04:09
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LordPants posted:I think they're pretty gun shy from adding more mile and a halfers after the Wheldon incident and especially not ones as steep as Atlanta and Charlotte. Texas is probably their threshold for the number of those ovals. I do wonder if we'll ever see Kansas, Kentucky and Chicagoland back on the schedule someday soon.
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Feb 4, 2014 04:40
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FuzzySkinner posted:I do wonder if we'll ever see Kansas, Kentucky and Chicagoland back on the schedule someday soon. I do think that given the way the new car races they should.
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Feb 4, 2014 08:22
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Some silly season updates from Pruett. Not a lot of breaking news, looks like pretty much the same total count as last year. http://www.racer.com/indycar-chevy-honda-weigh-in-on-2014-car-counts/article/332648/
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Feb 4, 2014 19:46
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Cygni posted:I like Bama, sry. Maybe unpopular but correct.
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Feb 4, 2014 19:48
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As the creator of the thread title, anyone that isn't madly in love with Simona can  .
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Feb 4, 2014 20:17
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gret posted:anyone that isn't madly in love with Simona can I am emptyquoting this
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Feb 4, 2014 20:41
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gret posted:As the creator of the thread title, anyone that isn't madly in love with Simona can Agreed, not only is she a far better driver than Danica, she's also cuter and I'm sure her personality is far better. 
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Feb 4, 2014 20:56
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Comparison to Danica, comments on her looks, truly spectacular.
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Feb 4, 2014 21:25
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http://www.ibj.com/the-score-2014-02-04-indycar-boss-optimistic-he-can-land-big-name-sponsors/PARAMS/post/45979 Verizon IndyCar World Series anyone?
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Feb 4, 2014 23:05
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