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Previa_fun posted:You forgot one: I like how they called it the Toyota MasterAce in Japan, but presumably someone in marketing noticed that it's uncomfortably close to "master race" and so rechristened it to "Van" when it came to North America.
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kastein posted:There are only a few minivans I would willingly drive: You forgot the astro. the LS bolts in, as does the 2 speed blazer transfercase.
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Previa_fun posted:You forgot one: I grew up riding an hour each way to school in one of those. The near-constant fear of losing both my legs to the engine in even a mild head-on collision was only broken by my father stopping and checking the (now warm) oil level about 10 minutes into every trip. The smell of that engine is distinct and I can still That remains the only vehicle I've ever jump-started by going in through the side window and down into the floor; you can't actually reach the battery from outside the window, either. The  fact that they named it Toyota Van has always made it really difficult to talk to people about it without visual aids.
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Seat Safety Switch posted:I like how they called it the Toyota MasterAce in Japan, but presumably someone in marketing noticed that it's uncomfortably close to "master race" and so rechristened it to "Van" when it came to North America. Actually, it was "Van Wagon" when first released in '84, then they decided that was too close to "Vanagon" then called it "Van". Our family bought one when the first came out in '84, and I drove it after selling my '76 Continental. Beige with Wine interior. 5-speed, Dual HVAC, and our first car with a cassette player. Many, many, many hours spent in the back of it on family vacations throughout the 80s. It was a nightmare to work on, and ate batteries and alternators on an annual basis from new. It had almost 400000 miles on it when I sold it and bought my grandma's '89 SHO.
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Feb 7, 2014 02:54
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We had one with a refrigerator / freezer and icemaker in the dash. Also an absurdly large sunroof four people could comfortably stand through. Unfortunately the A/C never worked. That and a fried ECU board around 150k miles were the only troubles it gave us, though. The aerodynamics caused the front to lift at highway speeds (or as close to as the little 4-banger could push it) and unload the front tires, allowing crosswinds to just shove you from lane to lane. I really liked that thing, I had it in college for a while, but my parents traded it in due to the aforementioned legmurder fears. The front wheels are actually somewhat behind the driver.
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Goober Peas posted:Actually, it was "Van Wagon" when first released in '84, then they decided that was too close to "Vanagon" then called it "Van". Our family bought one when the first came out in '84, and I drove it after selling my '76 Continental. Beige with Wine interior. 5-speed, Dual HVAC, and our first car with a cassette player. Many, many, many hours spent in the back of it on family vacations throughout the 80s. It was a nightmare to work on, and ate batteries and alternators on an annual basis from new. Your grandma seems like a cool bro. 
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Feb 7, 2014 03:43
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I hate to say it but no, I would not drive one of those. Ever. I can't get over how they look like arthur the anteater, which I have an irrational loathing of due to having to listen to that insipid series of books being read to my younger siblings far too many times as a child. Goes for previas, too. It's cool that they came in awd/turbocharged/5 speed variants, but no, never. It isn't logical and I don't care.
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kastein posted:Goes for previas, too. It's cool that they came in awd/turbocharged/5 speed variants, but no, never. It isn't logical and I don't care. Sometimes I think of buying another one as a beater. I think the rule for Previas is supercharged, AWD, 5 speed. Pick two, in that they dropped the 5 speed for the AWD vans the year they offered the S/C motor. Source: I am/used to be a  about these vans.
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Feb 7, 2014 05:00
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I had a feeling from the username  Don't get me wrong, I think they're awesome vehicles drivetrain wise, I just can't stand the way they look at all. Is there any way to play legos with them so you end up with a supercharged AWD 5 speed, or is that completely impossible because of design changes between the different versions?
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As far as I know it would be possible to swap the supercharger and related plumbing* and throw it in a non-s/c van, so yes. I'm sure getting the engine management to play nice might be tougher but you could probably swap that, too. I also think the supercharger is highly valued in the MR2 community as it is a larger capacity version of the same design (clutch and all) and is pretty much a bolt-in. *The supercharger was mounted up under the hood at the front of the motor, as was the air filter, if I recall. This resulted in a long intake track. The crank drove a driveshaft to a pulley in front that drove all the accessories and the bushings would always poo poo themselves by 100k miles and knock like hell if there was any accessory load at idle. Japanese cars in the 90s were so goddamn needlessly complex.
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Feb 7, 2014 05:13
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As awesome as the Taurus looks dressed up in a police uniform it's kinda sad that cops hate how small they are inside. It's significantly bigger than the Fusion on the outside, but only a little bigger inside.
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Previa_fun posted:As far as I know it would be possible to swap the supercharger and related plumbing* and throw it in a non-s/c van, so yes. I'm sure getting the engine management to play nice might be tougher but you could probably swap that, too. I also think the supercharger is highly valued in the MR2 community as it is a larger capacity version of the same design (clutch and all) and is pretty much a bolt-in. Correct. AW11 had the SC12, Estima had the SC14. They aren't quite bolt in IIRC, the SC14 had a physically longer compressor housing and blades, but the front and back plates were the same. Last I checked the supercharger took up the same area as the front diff which is why AWD and SC were mutually exclusive. None of which matters because they're horrible cars that are atrocious to work on and are always barely limping along in terrible states of disrepair.
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Previa_fun posted:You forgot one: I'm ashamed to say that my family also had one of these. it was two tone beige on brown, had the icebox up front, the massive sunroof in the back (along with a normal sized moon roof in the front) as well captains chairs for the second row. They would swivel around so that they would face the rear passengers/rear window. One time my mom opened the rear sliding door and it just kept going until it fell off the van. I'm not sure if it was named differently in the states but it ours was called the WONDERWAGON  e: This is almost exactly how it looked, you can see the icebox in the top left corner. 
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Slavvy posted:Last I checked the supercharger took up the same area as the front diff which is why AWD and SC were mutually exclusive. None of which matters because they're horrible cars that are atrocious to work on and are always barely limping along in terrible states of disrepair. Ah, yeah maybe it's the s/c and awd combo that's impossible regardless of transmission, I forget. I never poked around an AWD van so I'm not familiar with their layout.
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mustard_tiger posted:it was two tone beige on brown, That thing must have gotten you TONS OF PUSSY
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I'm gonna guess it got a lot of senior clam, anyway. My HS principle owned the exact same thing (even the poo poo on poo poo color), and occasionally used it for field trips in the early 90s (did I mention just how loving tiny my HS was?). A/C was also long, long dead.
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Feb 7, 2014 10:50
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Was the Toyota van the one with really strange seating arrangement as well? Forgive my shoddy memory, but I remember a friend's family had a van that looked similar, and the bench in the back was either backwards, or sideways like a troop carrier - I forget which.
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My only experience with a Previa was that I backed into my friend's mom's. The front grill stopped my tow hitch from going very far so I guess it wasn't much of a mechanical failure but more of a teenager failure.
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mustard_tiger posted:One time my mom opened the rear sliding door and it just kept going until it fell off the van. I don't know why, but this is hilarious. I'm dying over here. I got this image in my head of a mom reluctantly going out to open the van. She opens the door, letting it slide open... and it just keeps going while she just stares at it like, "...You motherfucker."
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Slavvy posted:Correct. AW11 had the SC12, Estima had the SC14. They aren't quite bolt in IIRC, the SC14 had a physically longer compressor housing and blades, but the front and back plates were the same. Engine power was marginal when new for highway speeds and there are definitely safety concerns, but if you want the absolute smallest and cheapest-running vehicle for hauling 4x8's and similar cargo they were your best choice for a long time. This means they've pretty much been retired from family-hauling duty but seem to be beloved by a fairly low tier of contractor; as such surviving examples seem to have been beat to poo poo far beyond what any passenger vehicle was really intended for.
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In NZ estimas are colloquially known as 'coconut carriers' because of the (somewhat true) perception that the overwhelming majority are owned by relatively poor pacific islander families with multiple children. I've never seen one used for anything other than limping down the road, belching smoke, packed to the brim with children.
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SuperDucky posted:Your grandma seems like a cool bro. She was -- her last car was a del Sol Si 
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I like every generation of V6 SHO.
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 The biggest tunnel machine ever constructed, Bertha, is off to a Real Bad start 60 feet underground and less than 1,000 feet into it's run. It was estimated to cost $3.1 billion and be done by early 2016 but there's no way in hell those estimates will be met now, and there's already talk of lawsuits. The whole thing has been eerily reminiscent of the big dig project in Boston, but since this is far deeper I have no idea how they would be able to dig it out from underneath downtown if it had a breakdown in a deeper spot. I like big machines, but I don't like being on the hook as a taxpayer when they break 
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Why would they design a tunnel digging machine that is irrecoverable if it breaks down while digging a tunnel? That is retarded.
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Slavvy posted:Why would they design a tunnel digging machine that is irrecoverable if it breaks down while digging a tunnel? That is retarded. I've heard of tunnel projects where much of the TBM is simply left in a self-bored disposal hole after the project's done.
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Slavvy posted:Why would they design a tunnel digging machine that is irrecoverable if it breaks down while digging a tunnel? That is retarded. Thats the best part, the plan if it gets stuck? Back fill the hole it dug with it inside. Really it seemed like a bad plan from the start. The whole digging a tunnel under the waterfront that was created by blowing up the hills and dumping all the material by the water and building on top of it seems like a bad plan to me.
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Negromancer posted:The whole digging a tunnel under the waterfront that was created by blowing up the hills and dumping all the material by the water and building on top of it seems like a bad plan to me. Most big cities start out because they're convenient to build on and serve some economic resource. Seattle? They had the resource but nowhere to build a city, but they did it anyways.
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Slavvy posted:Why would they design a tunnel digging machine that is irrecoverable if it breaks down while digging a tunnel? That is retarded. If I recall correctly, the boring machine isn't broken down, it's just running into bigger/smaller/less stable rocks than projected and is at risk of overheating. The assumption is that, if it can get through this section of ground OK, the more compact ground under the city will be easier to get through. It's really a failure to properly survey/engineer the project beforehand.
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So you're saying that seattle used the russian method of preparation for this project?
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Safety Dance posted:If I recall correctly, the boring machine isn't broken down, it's just running into bigger/smaller/less stable rocks than projected and is at risk of overheating. The assumption is that, if it can get through this section of ground OK, the more compact ground under the city will be easier to get through. It's really a failure to properly survey/engineer the project beforehand. The article linked describes sand in the grease and potential bearing/main axle damage.
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Godholio posted:The article linked describes sand in the grease and potential bearing/main axle damage. Ok, cool, I missed the link. I remembered reading about a previous delay in the same project, the URL of which I can't find now. e. Or maybe I just misunderstood what I'd read previously.
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wilfredmerriweathr posted:So you're saying that seattle used the russian method of preparation for this project? In a way, yeah. The original work stoppage explanation from early January (which took a month to diagnose) was that Bertha hit a 8" diameter steel pipe which was not mapped. Who was responsible for the pipe being there? WSDOT drilled a pilot well there years ago, and apparently just loving forgot that they left it there 
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wilfredmerriweathr posted:So you're saying that seattle used the russian method of preparation for this project? Russia wishes it could be as inept as Seattle. If you really care, check out the book I mentioned further up. Seattle is literally what happens when someone decides to build a city despite a million reasons it should never have been attempted. The first version was built on a tidal flat and they tried to make it work for years. Instead of building the town somewhere safer, they decided to blow up some cliffs with dynamite and use the rubble to build a foundation higher than the tides.
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xzzy posted:Russia wishes it could be as inept as Seattle. If you really care, check out the book I mentioned further up. Seattle is literally what happens when someone decides to build a city despite a million reasons it should never have been attempted. Hasn't it been rebuilt like 4 times?? I lived in a building downtown that had street level entrances in the basement and on the 4th floor.
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Local idiot didn't change his timing belt or something:
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Or the cam gear broke. That can happen if you drop/chip one while they're off.
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That kinda looks like it could be a water pump pulley. What engine is that?
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Looks like a DOHC Subaru. If it is, that's the intake cam gear saying peek-a-boo. An AI goon's timing belt video turns up when you GIS "subaru dohc timing belt" I wanna say that's jamal, but I'm not 100%.
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xzzy posted:Russia wishes it could be as inept as Seattle. If you really care, check out the book I mentioned further up. Seattle is literally what happens when someone decides to build a city despite a million reasons it should never have been attempted. They said I was mad to built a castle in a swamp, but I built it anyways - just to show 'em. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNaXdLWt17A
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