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Nelson Mandingo
Mar 27, 2005




Hodgepodge posted:

Didn't Ymir say something about many people wanting her to die, and that she "stole the titan's power"?
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-t_U6FBcuVpA/UMSe3EPvTKI/AAAAAAAADXE/2x97YSfT9pg/037.jpg?imgmax=2000
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-AujyZU7IyvI/UMSe30DEonI/AAAAAAAADXQ/FdY8xF0n08U/038.jpg?imgmax=2000

So yeah I would say she was in the exact same situation as Historia.

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Raineko
Mar 12, 2012
I just caught up to the manga

armin holy poo poo

A Stranger
Sep 14, 2010

Hunt11 posted:

Neither of those individuals are good examples of what I think you are trying to say. Cromwell was part of a civil war between the government and the king, and Napoleon seized power to end a revolutionary government that had risen when the lower classes in France had finally decided to take actions into their own hands in bringing down the government.

Also we already have a perfectly good word to describe what happens when the military tries to seize control of the government.

The parallel isn't perfect either, but they were both important individuals in the new, modernised armies in which merit was more important than aristocratic privilege, then used these armies to rise to power. The plot developments now seem to lead to a revolt by a progressive meritocratic army (with the aid of one small capitalist) against a corrupt and oppressive monarchy at the head of a state seemingly based on aristocratic privilege.

I guess you could see current developments as fascist but the label honestly doesn't seem to fit. I'm quite certain no-one here would even think to label the current plot developments as fascist if the author's apparent sympathy for Japanese nationalism wasn't known.

At this point we can maybe say that there is some negative portrayal of the ordinary people, often as an irrational mob (although, given the way the story shows their oppression and misery, there is an argument to be made against this reading). That is hardly an uncommon trope (unfortunately) and it's extremely prevalent in many popular books, series and films where the common people are portrayed as fundamentally idiotic. There may be some love for authoritarianism and militarism, but it's hardly any worse than a random Hollywood action film (not a good example given the often quite overt extreme-Right narrative in many Hollywood action films, but you get the point). The most interesting analysis someone posted here was as the Titans as outsiders/immigrants, but I think the basis for this is quite thin given recent plot developments with the Titans revealed to be former humans.

All in all, the claim of an increasingly overt fascist narrative emerging seems a little premature.

JosephWongKS
Apr 4, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

Raineko posted:

I just caught up to the manga

armin holy poo poo

Holy poo poo indeed.

Squidster
Oct 7, 2008

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Raineko posted:

I just caught up to the manga

armin holy poo poo


change my name
Aug 27, 2007

Legends die but anime is forever.

RIP The Lost Otakus.


Needs a third panel with the tied up Armin getting groped. It's hilarious how quickly he gets knocked down.

Squidster
Oct 7, 2008

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change my name posted:

Needs a third panel with the tied up Armin getting groped. It's hilarious how quickly he gets knocked down.
No, I'm pretty sure Armin already psychologically destroyed that guy.

Missing Name
Jan 5, 2013


Squidster posted:

No, I'm pretty sure Armin already psychologically destroyed that guy.

He manages to gently caress with people's minds whether he intends to or not. Seriously, I think he's going to mentally destroy one of his remaining buddies soon.

Squidster
Oct 7, 2008

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Time for a tumblr harvest! It's getting scarier out there, folks - the amount of horrifying porn has increased thousandfold since last I searched for fanart.







AradoBalanga
Jan 3, 2013

Missing Name posted:

He manages to gently caress with people's minds whether he intends to or not. Seriously, I think he's going to mentally destroy one of his remaining buddies soon.
Calling it now, Armin reverse trolls Eren into controlling his Titan form via psychological manipulation.

Actually, I almost want him to join Hange and Levi with the interrogation of the Military Police dude (Djel?) just to see Armin reverse troll that guy into coughing up information.

Schubalts
Nov 26, 2007

People say bigger is better.

But for the first time in my life, I think I've gone too far.

Holy poo poo, Marco.

Liquid Dinosaur
Dec 16, 2011

by Smythe
Gah its been so many months I don't even remember what super cold manipulative mastermind poo poo Armin did. Could someone remind me?

HoneyBoy
Oct 12, 2012

get murked son

Liquid Dinosaur posted:

Gah its been so many months I don't even remember what super cold manipulative mastermind poo poo Armin did. Could someone remind me?

He lied to Bert and Ernie about Annie being held captive and being tortured.

Saagonsa
Dec 29, 2012

Liquid Dinosaur posted:

Gah its been so many months I don't even remember what super cold manipulative mastermind poo poo Armin did. Could someone remind me?

The only thing I can think of is him lying to Reiner and Bertholdt about how they were torturing Annie.

JosephWongKS
Apr 4, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

Squidster posted:

Time for a tumblr harvest! It's getting scarier out there, folks - the amount of horrifying porn has increased thousandfold since last I searched for fanart.




I get the references in Eren's, Levi's, Marco's, Sasha's and Ymir's captions. But what does Annie's caption refer to?

TexMexFoodbaby
Sep 6, 2011

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

JosephWongKS posted:

I get the references in Eren's, Levi's, Marco's, Sasha's and Ymir's captions. But what does Annie's caption refer to?

Her personality?

snucks
Nov 3, 2008

Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

Saagonsa posted:

The only thing I can think of is him lying to Reiner and Bertholdt about how they were torturing Annie.
Also though, as soon as the female titan showed up and wrecked the Survey Corp's poo poo, Armin started playing mind games with the titan to see whether or not it was one of his friends. He then feigns ignorance and asks this friend to help him out in a time of need as an elaborate plot to capture and dissect said friend.

Soulcleaver
Sep 25, 2007

Murderer
I hate to prolong the fascism discussion but Erwin really looks like an SS officer here. Well, except for the bolo. And the sci-fi sword.

muike
Mar 16, 2011

ガチムチ セブン
He looks like a gay cowboy or an American cavalry officer

JosephWongKS
Apr 4, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

JosephWongKS posted:

I get the references in Eren's, Levi's, Marco's, Sasha's and Ymir's captions. But what does Annie's caption refer to?

Ooh, I just got the reference.

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/michaeljackson/smoothcriminal.html posted:


"Smooth Criminal"

As He Came Into The Window
It Was The Sound Of A Crescendo
He Came Into Her Apartment
He Left The Bloodstains On The Carpet
She Ran Underneath The Table
He Could See She Was Unable
So She Ran Into The Bedroom
She Was Struck Down, It Was Her Doom

Annie Are You OK
So, Annie Are You OK
Are You OK, Annie
Annie Are You OK
So, Annie Are You OK
Are You OK, Annie
Annie Are You OK
So, Annie Are You OK
Are You OK, Annie
Annie Are You OK
So, Annie Are You OK,
Are You OK, Annie


*snip*

JosephWongKS fucked around with this message at 01:50 on Feb 12, 2014

change my name
Aug 27, 2007

Legends die but anime is forever.

RIP The Lost Otakus.

I don't even get their plan; so they want Eren to harden in the wall's gap, sure. But how is he going to get out again?

change my name fucked around with this message at 01:34 on Feb 12, 2014

TexMexFoodbaby
Sep 6, 2011

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

change my name posted:

I don't even get their plan, so they want Eren to harden in the wall's gap, sure. But how is he going to get out again?

I think it'll create a shell or something cause the titan is separate from Eren. So hopefully he can break out of it and not end up crystallizing himself in stasis.

AnonSpore
Jan 19, 2012

"I didn't see the part where he develops as a character so I guess he never developed as a character"

JosephWongKS posted:

Ooh, I just got the reference.

Jesus Christ dude did that really necessitate posting the entire lyrics to Smooth Criminal. I mean I like the song but still. :psyduck:

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

JosephWongKS posted:

Ooh, I just got the reference.

You're overthinking things.

Kokoro Wish
Jul 23, 2007

Post? What post? Oh wow.
I had nothing to do with THAT.

Once again, Annie is the best.

Kokoro Wish fucked around with this message at 07:27 on Feb 12, 2014

I eats my spinach
Jan 16, 2005

'sup gordon

Soulcleaver posted:

I hate to prolong the fascism discussion but Erwin really looks like an SS officer here. Well, except for the bolo. And the sci-fi sword.

I know people are trying to desperately grasp at any fascist symbolism they can or whatever but simple military-issue jackets with sash belts, passants, and large flap-covered pockets were super common from at least WWI up to like the fuckin Korean war. The SS did issue coats with a similar cut but they tended to be more ornate and come in grey or black, if anything what Erwin is wearing looks more like an old US officer dress uniform coat or M1942 paratrooper jacket or one of the many many other pieces of similar Allied equipment

DaveKap
Feb 5, 2006

Pickle: Inspected.



change my name posted:

I don't even get their plan; so they want Eren to harden in the wall's gap, sure. But how is he going to get out again?
Annie's abilities allowed certain parts of her titan to harden. All Eren needs to do is throw his big booty into the gap, harden, and pop out of his titan form. This doesn't account for "the titan falls apart when you get out" and "the hardening necessary is the same type that's currently encasing Annie" but that kinda poo poo is easy to write off.

blankd
Mar 26, 2010

DaveKap posted:

Annie's abilities allowed certain parts of her titan to harden. All Eren needs to do is throw his big booty into the gap, harden, and pop out of his titan form. This doesn't account for "the titan falls apart when you get out" and "the hardening necessary is the same type that's currently encasing Annie" but that kinda poo poo is easy to write off.
They did sorta address it when Hanji mentioned that some of the chips from Annie's crystal were still intact/hard despite being separate from her?

Wili
Apr 7, 2010

ppppbbbbtttthhhhhhttppp!
New Spoof on Titan!

This one is super adorab- Oh. Oh.

:negative:

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

muike posted:

He looks like a gay cowboy or an American cavalry officer

I think he looks like Peter O'Toole.

Eleeleth
Jun 21, 2009

Damn, that is one suave eel.

Wili posted:

New Spoof on Titan!

This one is super adorab- Oh. Oh.

:negative:

STOP TOYING WITH MY HEART.

LaTex Fetish
Oct 11, 2010

Something I thought while just reading over the manga:

Despite joining the Surveying Legion and having gone into 'Titan Territory' several times, Eren has never actually gone outside the walls.

Genocyber
Jun 4, 2012

LaTex Fetish posted:

Something I thought while just reading over the manga:

Despite joining the Surveying Legion and having gone into 'Titan Territory' several times, Eren has never actually gone outside the walls.

Neither has anyone else since Maria was breached. Also that's not a spoiler.

this allusion meant
Apr 9, 2006
At least he finally managed a normal kill.

DaveKap
Feb 5, 2006

Pickle: Inspected.



Wili posted:

New Spoof on Titan!

This one is super adorab- Oh. Oh.

:negative:
How do I look at all of the previous ones? This reader is... strange.

Saagonsa
Dec 29, 2012

DaveKap posted:

How do I look at all of the previous ones? This reader is... strange.

I think someone said that you had to download the app and read them there

Thoren
May 28, 2008

Wili posted:

New Spoof on Titan!

This one is super adorab- Oh. Oh.

:negative:

How cute. I can't wait to see how their romance develops in the real manga!

DaveKap posted:

How do I look at all of the previous ones? This reader is... strange.


Left arrow.

DaveKap
Feb 5, 2006

Pickle: Inspected.



Thoren posted:

Left arrow.
Um, no, I mean read the other 10.

AradoBalanga
Jan 3, 2013

DaveKap posted:

Um, no, I mean read the other 10.
Like Saagonsa said, you have to download their app in order to read their stuff.

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Squidster
Oct 7, 2008

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AradoBalanga posted:

Like Saagonsa said, you have to download their app in order to read their stuff.
I seriously can't figure out how to do it on their app at all - I can only access the most recent and the first set. But it's cool, this guy has them all up on Imgur.

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