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Maybe Larry English can take steroids and get that Merriman edge Disillusionist posted:So glad that Dallas ended up with Ware over Merriman (sorry for wasting your career though). Parcells just has no loving clue
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AAA DOLFAN posted:Maybe Larry English can take steroids and get that Merriman edge A burn so nice you made it twice
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Feb 11, 2014 22:51
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Intruder posted:A burn so nice you made it twice This awful app is just as advertised
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AAA DOLFAN posted:Parcells just has no loving clue Football Tsar* *Bomba that will destroy your franchis
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Feb 11, 2014 23:57
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Parcells gets poo poo on way too much for his time with the Dolphins. He was never more than a solid personnel guy, his philosophies are outdated, and he was never going to stick around long enough for the team to be a contender in the best possible circumstances, but he's one of the best, if not the singular best guy in NFL history for turning around lovely teams. The Dolphins were in such poo poo shape when he took over that a Cleveland Browns or Detroit Lions style stretch was a pretty plausible scenario. Turning that mess of poo poo into a perpetually average team isn't a rousing success, but it's pretty far from the worst case scenario, too. Even in retrospect I think you still hire Parcells, you just blow his hires out quicker when the team stalls out.
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Parcells is still the best Cowboys coach since Johnson. Other than drafting Bobby Carpenter in the first (because he was friends with Bobby's dad) and the Ware thing he was a solid drafter too.
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I hate that man so much. San Diego had two all-pros that year and after two games against the Titans, neither was ever the same
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Catfish Noodlin posted:Parcells gets poo poo on way too much for his time with the Dolphins. He was never more than a solid personnel guy, his philosophies are outdated, and he was never going to stick around long enough for the team to be a contender in the best possible circumstances, but he's one of the best, if not the singular best guy in NFL history for turning around lovely teams. I'm really struggling to give Parcells too much credit for 1) Having Chad Pennington fall into his lap 2) having Lee bring in the wildcat that happened to work using players that he inherited. Minus Anthony Fasano and Jake Long, I guess. Parcells alone wanted Pat loving White. He admitted as such. He is WAY too outdated, and refused to change.
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SpclKen posted:The problem is teams are looking for dline that have the measurable a to become elite in day 3 but haven't put it together yet. Look at Greg Hardy. He was a 6th round draft choice but he had the frame and athleticism to produce if he could put together technique, bulk up and stay healthy. A guy like Sam's nock is his size to play that position, unless he can transition to an OLB he will have a tough time sticking around a long time as a 4-3 DE with his size limitations. Greg Hardy absolutely would have been a first-round pick if his college injury history hadn't scared teams off, though, so he wasn't really a project guy.
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Feb 12, 2014 06:46
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Plus he stole another guy's nickname which is just lame as poo poo
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RumbleFish posted:Greg Hardy absolutely would have been a first-round pick if his college injury history hadn't scared teams off, though, so he wasn't really a project guy. He was also badmouthed by his coaches because they said he wouldn't play through pain. If he'd left a year earlier he'd probably have made it into the late first/high second.
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darkforce898 posted:Here is the top 10 before playoffs  "Jamaal Charles won't get enough carries now"
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AAA DOLFAN posted:Plus he stole another guy's nickname which is just lame as poo poo You are literally the only person I've ever seen bring this up and you do it every time Greg Hardy is mentioned and I have never once heard Cam Wake referred to as the Kraken so please loving stop
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Catfish Noodlin posted:Parcells gets poo poo on way too much for his time with the Dolphins. He was never more than a solid personnel guy, his philosophies are outdated, and he was never going to stick around long enough for the team to be a contender in the best possible circumstances, but he's one of the best, if not the singular best guy in NFL history for turning around lovely teams. I would argue Marty Schottenheimer might be better but yea Parcells was insanely good at turning around poo poo heaps.
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Alouicious posted:You are literally the only person I've ever seen bring this up and you do it every time Greg Hardy is mentioned and I have never once heard Cam Wake referred to as the Kraken so please loving stop Google Cameron Wake Kraken. It's a thing. But I don't use it because I don't like nicknames.
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Alouicious posted:You are literally the only person I've ever seen bring this up and you do it every time Greg Hardy is mentioned and I have never once heard Cam Wake referred to as the Kraken so please loving stop It's entirely tongue in cheek you loving baby so lol Edit : And just because you aren't aware of something or haven't heard of something doesn't really mean anything, sport. A simple google search would show you articles from 2011 where Wake is called kraken. It got brought up in a pre game thing before Miami played Carolina. I'm pretty sure fiz and I talked about it back when it was new. I remember Carolina fans coming into a dolphins forum making pretty good jokes like "when Greg hardy's kraken farts it creates a Wake" and stuff like that. It's a fun little thing. But again lol Amy Pole Her fucked around with this message at 15:27 on Feb 12, 2014 |
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Greg Hardy was a late first prospect that dropped because his coaches threw him under the bus and he had a poor combine performance immediately afterwards. I said this before in the NBA thread but it seems like you really should build teams out of super athletic guys with huge red flags.
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^^That's more or less how the late-era Don Nelson teams were built, and those were poo poo I enjoy that the one time Bill Parcells broke with his dumb loving system we ended up with Pat White
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Doltos posted:I said this before in the NBA thread but it seems like you really should build teams out of super athletic guys with huge red flags. As Taibbi put it: quote:1. DRAFT THE WEED GUY Of course, the Hernandez note looks bad in retrospect.
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ulmont posted:As Taibbi put it: Justin Houston was a weed related fall in the draft and owns. I can get behind this philosophy.
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ulmont posted:As Taibbi put it: It's terrible to say but the wife beaters also tend to be really great players. I mean look at Lance Stephenson on the Pacers right now. Jason Kidd as well. Then we can go into baseball's wife beaters...
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Doltos posted:It's terrible to say but the wife beaters also tend to be really great players. I mean look at Lance Stephenson on the Pacers right now. Jason Kidd as well. Then we can go into baseball's wife beaters... No. Just stop right now.
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Feb 12, 2014 18:10
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Noted weed guy Jimmy Smith seems to have turned the corner this year. Also helped win the Superbowl, which is nice.
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Chichevache posted:No. Just stop right now. Brett Meyers... Kirby Puckett once tried to strangle his wife with an electrical cord... Jose Canseco of course...
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Feb 12, 2014 18:14
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Brett Myers isn't that good, nor was Julio Lugo
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Doltos posted:It's terrible to say but the wife beaters also tend to be really great players. I mean look at Lance Stephenson on the Pacers right now. Jason Kidd as well. Then we can go into baseball's wife beaters... Lance Stephenson is overrated but it was also his girlfriend that he pushed down the stairs so we'll split the difference there. Also I probably would've led off with Larry Fitzgerald here
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I didn't know Larry Fitz hit his wife. I thought he was supposed to be the model of class or something like that.
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I bet this conversation has been had by scouts for real That and rear end size
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Can we go with general abuse instead of beating because if thats the case you can throw in at lest one DPOY
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ZenVulgarity posted:I bet this conversation has been had by scouts for real I bet it hasn't because it is retarded
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Doltos posted:I didn't know Larry Fitz hit his wife. I thought he was supposed to be the model of class or something like that. Technically they weren't married and the Arizona press did everything they could to bury it and never speak about it again because he's such a nice guy
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Goetta posted:I bet it hasn't because it is retarded Scout chat is probably like 80% talking about hip placement and the three cone drill.
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Goetta posted:I bet it hasn't because it is retarded I bet it has because you kind of have to talk about a guys body to properly evaluate him. There's also a specific part of the combine weigh in where there's a fleet of scouts writing down everything they can think of when a prospect goes up on stage in his underwear.
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Goetta posted:I bet it hasn't because it is retarded Exactly!
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Oh wait you're asking if scouts legitimately talk about if smoking weed or beating your wife makes you a better player? Of course, in a bar, after work, where no one is listening.
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No, I'm going to guess that scouts don't secretly talk about how beating up women makes you good at football
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Goetta posted:No, I'm going to guess that scouts don't secretly talk about how beating up women makes you good at football They just phrase it as Pros: Aggression that can be translated onto the field.
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Goetta posted:No, I'm going to guess that scouts don't secretly talk about how beating up women makes you good at football Not everyone is as hung up on being 100% PC as internet forums are ~~~ Not saying that beating your wife is ok or if it makes you a good football player. That's obviously tongue in cheek. I'm just saying the average guy jokes about things that are TOTALLY ABHORRENT all the time. You and your friends might not, but there are plenty of people out there that do.
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Doltos posted:Not everyone is as hung up on being 100% PC as internet forums are ~~~ Noooooo Doltos, nooooooooooo, don't go down this path again.
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