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randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

Crotch Fruit posted:

Of course my wife, mother-in-law, and I did not know the Ion was a Cobalt. Is that bad? I mean besides the fact the Ion was poverty spec, both my wife and I liked it a lot more than her Civic.

I mention it because nearly everything mechanical is shared with the Cobalt - i.e., parts are incredibly cheap, and easy to find. Interior and body parts are a little more difficult to find, but more because production ended in 2007. There's a metric assload of them in junkyards, if you don't mind used parts.

I own an Ion myself, it's been a great car. Mine is the opposite end of poverty spec (Ion 3 - sunroof, automatic headlights, OnStar, etc), but it's the same as the poverty spec car in terms of engine/transmission options. I picked mine up last January with 65k, it has 87k now. Only money I've spent on it has been on oil changes and a set of tires; (CarMax) warranty covered a repair to an EVAP sensor plug.

As far as I've been able to tell with my own Ion, the only real mechanical differences are the clutch master cylinder (on the manual transmission version) and the battery. The automatic on the 03-04 coupe was a pile of poo poo (early GM CVT); 03-04 sedan had a Toyota-sourced 5 speed auto that was reliable, but people didn't like how it shifted; it got replaced with a GM 4 speed auto for 05+.

I've owned two Civics (95 and 96, both M/T EX coupes with the 1.6 VTEC); the Ion would definitely lose in a race against either of them, but IMO it's a much more comfortable car, and a bit quieter (at least in Ion 3 trim). And it handles just as well as the Civics.

randomidiot fucked around with this message at 11:52 on Feb 13, 2014

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Vindolanda
Feb 13, 2012

It's just like him too, y'know?

Previa_fun posted:

Here you go. :v:

Amazing.

rcman50166
Mar 23, 2010

by XyloJW
To summarize what is going on in the south:





Stolen from GBS's "How did you babies in the south like your 2 inches of snow?"

Disgruntled Bovine
Jul 5, 2010

The extent of the "chaos" on my drive home today consisted of a minivan cutting me off and almost forcing me to plow into them, and watching a Dodge Ram turn off the road too fast and hit a decorative fence.

I'm disappointed.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

rcman50166 posted:

To summarize what is going on in the south:





Stolen from GBS's "How did you babies in the south like your 2 inches of snow?"
Jesus Christ. I'm half expecting another two days and it'll look like The Road.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

InitialDave posted:

Jesus Christ. I'm half expecting another two days and it'll look like The Road.

That first photo does look like The Road. It genuinely looks like a movie set with snow on it.

Why the gently caress is car on fire. :psyduck:

Maker Of Shoes
Sep 4, 2006

AWWWW YISSSSSSSSSS
DIS IS MAH JAM!!!!!!

xzzy posted:

Why the gently caress is car on fire. :psyduck:

Because the south.

Vindolanda
Feb 13, 2012

It's just like him too, y'know?

rcman50166 posted:

To summarize what is going on in the south:




Holy poo poo!

Looks pretty hot in there.

rscott
Dec 10, 2009

xzzy posted:

That first photo does look like The Road. It genuinely looks like a movie set with snow on it.

Why the gently caress is car on fire. :psyduck:

I'm guessing someone got stuck and overreved their engine so much it caught on fire

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Maker Of Shoes posted:

Because the south.

Is like the opposite of "cold weather packages" you get on new cars sold in the north? Cars sold in the south are equipped with a thermite grenade that goes off when ice is detected?

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


Toilet Rascal
When the defroster is on the traction control light is directly connected to an injector that sprays gas onto the exhaust manifold.

How are these cars even starting do people in the south even use antifreeze?

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug

xzzy posted:

Is like the opposite of "cold weather packages" you get on new cars sold in the north? Cars sold in the south are equipped with a thermite grenade that goes off when ice is detected?

No, the driver probably got stuck on ice, applied more throttle to make it go faster, and redlined the engine until it grenaded. You see it here once in awhile, usually on a very steep hill like the one pictured.

Fender Anarchist
May 20, 2009

Fender Anarchist

Elephanthead posted:

How are these cars even starting do people in the south even use antifreeze?

Antifreeze also has anti-corrosion additives and a higher boiling point than pure water, so yes, at least when new. Although to their credit, I don't know anyone down here who runs straight water in older vehicles except one ex-coworker who had a fast coolant leak (weekly refills) and didn't want to spend the money until he got it fixed.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug
Actually coolant has a lower boiling point than pure water. :eng101:

KennyLoggins
Dec 3, 2004
Welcome to the Danger Zone


Saw this on another forum. Freddy weighs in on the Atlantapocaplypse.

Tomarse
Mar 7, 2001

Grr



These are the people you share a car park with:



The beauty of driving a stupid little car (the Aygo is mine) is that you can fit it into the space next to the twat in the VW that can't park (The only space left in the whole bastard carpark). 9 hours after parking I came back and the VW had gone and had obviously had to climb in through the passenger side. Made me feel better after a long day :)

Disgruntled Bovine
Jul 5, 2010

Surprised he didn't key your car.

Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007

Can any Michigan natives explain to me why the drivers here are constitutionally incapable of turning into the near lane of multi-lane roads? Left turn, right turn, four-lane, eight-lane, it doesn't seem to matter. Everyone turns into the farthest possible lane in every circumstance, even when they have lines painted around the curve specifically to guide drivers into the correct lane. I have lived in Pennsylvania, New York, and Ohio and never saw nearly as much of this as I do in Michigan.

Bonus points if you can explain to me why half the drivers leave their brights on all the time as well.

Tomarse
Mar 7, 2001

Grr



Disgruntled Bovine posted:

Surprised he didn't key your car.

Checked - couldn't see any marks, and my car is so filthy it should have showed even in the dark. Took the photo partly to record their plate just in case!

I like to think that they got back to their car, realised what a lovely job of parking they had done and sheepishly climbed across and vowed never to do it again. In reality they will probably come back tomorrow and do the same thing.

Snowdens Secret
Dec 29, 2008
Someone got you a obnoxiously racist av.

Maker Of Shoes posted:

Because the south.

You know what's weird is when I was a kid in the South we had way more snow than this. Burning car pic is from Raleigh, when I lived there we had at least one 18" snowfall and several 12" overnight drops. Hell, when I was really little in South Carolina we got enough one weekend to make a network of tunnels in the yard.

The nice thing about the Carolinas is the next week it'll be like 50 degrees and the snow is gone in a few days, unlike New England where I'm pretty sure we've got some drifts left over from 2011

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.

Penguissimo posted:

Can any Michigan natives explain to me why the drivers here are constitutionally incapable of turning into the near lane of multi-lane roads? Left turn, right turn, four-lane, eight-lane, it doesn't seem to matter. Everyone turns into the farthest possible lane in every circumstance, even when they have lines painted around the curve specifically to guide drivers into the correct lane. I have lived in Pennsylvania, New York, and Ohio and never saw nearly as much of this as I do in Michigan.

Bonus points if you can explain to me why half the drivers leave their brights on all the time as well.

Same in central IL. The road leading up to my work, the left lane merges into the right half a block up, and every day it's: right turn into the left lane, immediate merge into the right.

superv0zz
Jun 24, 2006

Touch it.

Tomarse posted:

These are the people you share a car park with:



The beauty of driving a stupid little car (the Aygo is mine) is that you can fit it into the space next to the twat in the VW that can't park (The only space left in the whole bastard carpark). 9 hours after parking I came back and the VW had gone and had obviously had to climb in through the passenger side. Made me feel better after a long day :)

He parked over the line because the guy next to him parked right on the line and he obviously didn't want to do exactly what you did. You should be punched in the face for being an rear end in a top hat, honestly.

Krakkles
May 5, 2003

I, for one, am glad that omniscient forums user "superv0zz" is here to correct all misinterpretations of actual fact and set us all straight.

Boy is my face red

But let's assume your version is true: he should've backed his car in and stayed within the line. He'd have room, the other person who FORCED HIM TO PARK LIKE THAT would have room, and Tomarse wouldn't have posted in this thread because nothing would've happened.

Krakkles fucked around with this message at 02:36 on Feb 14, 2014

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

It's also possible the Golf parked first and the sedan was all "woo, free space, I'll use it!"

Basically there's no situation where the Golf isn't at fault.

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.
Or the Golf could have parked in Tomarse's spot with no issues.

Snowdens Secret
Dec 29, 2008
Someone got you a obnoxiously racist av.
Or there was a car in that spot, crooked, when the Golf parked. For all we know this is all some crazy butterfly effect and the original perps are long gone.

That's especially common around here these days with the lines frequently obscured by snow / dirt.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Snowdens Secret posted:

That's especially common around here these days with the lines frequently obscured by snow / dirt.

You don't say.

nsaP
May 4, 2004

alright?
What's the crossover between this thread and /r/justiceporn ?

Plan Z
May 6, 2012

My area pretty much hires only private plowing services for the roads, and they're not very good. Today I finished shoveling my driveway, and looked out into the street to see if they plowed it. At first glance they didn't, but then I realized that I was staring at a snow bank obscuring the one trail of plowing done. Apparently the driver just drove down the center of the road, and created a little valley that nobody could drive over the bank of so that we could actually leave the neighborhood.

Krakkles
May 5, 2003

nsaP posted:

What's the crossover between this thread and /r/justiceporn ?
You shitpost in both, if I had to guess?

Fender Anarchist
May 20, 2009

Fender Anarchist

Seat Safety Switch posted:

Actually coolant has a lower boiling point than pure water. :eng101:



:confused:

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug
Huh. Why do cars run 50-50 then? I always thought coolant reduced the specific heat capacity of the mixture and therefore lowered the boiling point :confused:

Fender Anarchist
May 20, 2009

Fender Anarchist

Because the freezing point of pure antifreeze is only like 10 degrees below that of water! :science:



E: Technically 65% would be best, but 50-50 makes for easier math when mixing and is generally good enough unless you live in Yellowknife or some poo poo.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug
Oh, there we go. AI has taught me a valuable life lesson. Thanks, Nag.

EightBit
Jan 7, 2006
I spent money on this line of text just to make the "Stupid Newbie" go away.

Is this the boiling point at sea level? Liquid cooled engines are usually pressurized, which would raise the boiling point even further.

In a really hot environment, you want to use 50/50 because anti-freeze has a lower specific heat than water, and too much of it will reduce the effectiveness of the cooling jacket.

Cage
Jul 17, 2003
www.revivethedrive.org

Tomarse posted:

These are the people you share a car park with:



The beauty of driving a stupid little car (the Aygo is mine) is that you can fit it into the space next to the twat in the VW that can't park (The only space left in the whole bastard carpark). 9 hours after parking I came back and the VW had gone and had obviously had to climb in through the passenger side. Made me feel better after a long day :)
:hfive:

This was last week, I ended up moving my car during my lunch break but when I was leaving for the day I saw a new suv in my place giving the pickup just as much room to get in. He didn't have any excuse, that was the end of the row and there was plenty of room there.


I hate parking at a college.

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON
RE: bad parking chat - saw this at a Home Depot

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009
Idaho roads are painted with straight up house paint. Guess what happens immediately to the lines when there is either snow or rain or a light breeze?

gently caress Idaho roads.

Terrible Robot
Jul 2, 2010

FRIED CHICKEN
Slippery Tilde

ratbert90 posted:

Idaho roads are painted with straight up house paint. Guess what happens immediately to the lines when there is either snow or rain or a light breeze?

gently caress Idaho roads.

North Carolina roads are like this as well, with the added bonus of whatever asphalt they use just loving absorbs light, when it rains it was like trying to navigate in a black hole. Fun stuff.

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jamal
Apr 15, 2003

I'll set the building on fire

EightBit posted:

Is this the boiling point at sea level? Liquid cooled engines are usually pressurized, which would raise the boiling point even further.

In a really hot environment, you want to use 50/50 because anti-freeze has a lower specific heat than water, and too much of it will reduce the effectiveness of the cooling jacket.

Yes, all at atmospheric pressure at sea level. I suppose I could add some more lines to the graph. with a 15psi cap the boiling point of straight water goes up to about 250f.

In a really hot environment you could even use less than 50% coolant. The downside is that you lose some of your anti-corrosion and lubricating properties.

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