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ExiledTinkerer posted:OT was no better---the other 2 panelists might as well have been cardboard cutouts for the most part as it was all S.E. Cupp all the time outside of Bill talking. It seems like Bill was trying to reestablish order after the chaos from last week. I liked Bill's closing remarks on age warfare though.
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When 47 million americans are on food stamps, its rather bullshit to try and pretend that every kid is living the luxe suburban life.
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Narcissus1916 posted:When 47 million americans are on food stamps, its rather bullshit to try and pretend that every kid is living the luxe suburban life. But...but IPHONES!!! Seriously, that's pretty much the go-to comeback these days. Never mind the fact that students today graduate into an historically poor labor market carrying the equivalent of a mortgage's worth of undischargeable debt, while baby boomers were able to pay for tuition painting houses over the summer and pretty much had their pick of jobs upon graduation. None of that poo poo matters, because we have really cool smartphones and other relatively cheap gizmos.
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Rhesus Pieces posted:But...but IPHONES!!! But didn't you hear? 97% of poors have refrigerators. Refrigerators! Well now that they won't be able to get food stamps those moochers don't even need them! Such luxury!
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Feb 9, 2014 22:34
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You drat millenials had it too easy in my day we had to drive around all over the loving place to find our drat friends on Friday night! 
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Yeah, the irony is beyond palpable when he's been hosting a show for years now that is largely the result of the past and ongoing actions of Boomers and their nearest neighbors with constant and well warranted hand-wringing beget by the lot of it. Next week has a renewed chance with Scahill showing up though---he might be one of the few people left alive at this point that could better illuminate the whole Snowden thing and whatnot for Bill.
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They should've just had whoever wrote Colicchio's notes on there instead of Colicchio. At least then it would've come out without endless stuttering and at a pace slow enough for human understanding.
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Feb 10, 2014 15:10
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sportsgenius86 posted:At least then it would've come out without endless stuttering and at a pace slow enough for human understanding. Yea, just like Ronan Farrow last week. Cramming in as many words as possible rarely comes across well. It's funny that so many on TV don't seem cognizant of this.
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Feb 11, 2014 04:38
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They guy spouting "Democracy isn't real" on Overtime was annoying. He also talked for an eternity about nothing at one point of the show.
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Ratigan? He quit the cable news ghetto to grow hydro, so his silly ideas are excusable, even if he was a former cokehead Wall St. trader. e: I say former but let's face it he definitely still toots every now and then.
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Feb 15, 2014 11:54
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Still the best episode of the season by far---even with the cringing exchanges as Scahill desperately tried to reckon things with Bill on terrorism. Maher's drone reasoning being so circular as to constitute a geometric marvel really did him no favors. The only flaw with having Scahill on the panel is it making it theoretically more unlikely for a Super Panel to come featuring him, Sharlet, and Taibbi---presuming all hopefully indeed remain alive and lively for a long time to come. Ratigan on OT was about as expected, though they'd have done well to have better examined at least the crust of the point he was making in terms of the monied interests as opposed to self-deflecting into feel-good/aspirational impractical truisms. He was definitely the weakest on the panel.
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ExiledTinkerer posted:Yeah, the irony is beyond palpable when he's been hosting a show for years now that is largely the result of the past and ongoing actions of Boomers and their nearest neighbors with constant and well warranted hand-wringing beget by the lot of it. if PJ O'Rourke's kids are so over scheduled, maybe stop scheduling them for so many things 
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I don't understand why so many boomers like O'Rourke talk about today's youth being super spoiled and  CELL PHONES as though somebody else raised them and made those purchases.
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when he and Bill talked about how their generation had the most fun I think I  'ed in real life.
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I like how Bill completely ignored the whole, future generations of terrorists thing when you blow up people with drones. I can't seem to find Jeremy Schaill's website though.
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TLG James posted:I like how Bill completely ignored the whole, future generations of terrorists thing when you blow up people with drones. http://theintercept.org
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Just watched parts of the SE Cupp and PJ ORourke episode. Jesus, that was a clusterfuck. Awful panel all the way around - SE Cupp at her most "I'm normal, except for THIS crazy position!" schticky, Collichio appearing comatose, Bill Maher seeming completely out of it with a terrible monologue - that was not a solid hour of television.
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Feb 17, 2014 02:19
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oh, Bill doesn't believe Woody Allen molested his daughter and people (including Dylan Farrow?) need to be "very sure". Okay....kind of done with this show now.
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HipGnosis posted:oh, Bill doesn't believe Woody Allen molested his daughter and people (including Dylan Farrow?) need to be "very sure". Okay....kind of done with this show now. I said out loud, "so you're one of those guys," and promptly changed the channel.
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Feb 21, 2014 01:28
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I thought the 2/14 Episode's Overtime was more entertaining than the show has been in a few weeks at least.
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Well, that went a lot better than the last time Rachel Maddow was on Real Time. Last time she just threw her hands up and stopped arguing with Nick Gillespie because she couldn't find a way to pierce his incredible  -barrier. Charles Cooke didn't even bother to put up a fight tonight. Though I guess on Overtime he was the lone hold-out against raising the minimum wage.I guess they couldn't get any actual talent from the National Review so they had to go with the guy who writes poo poo like "Canada is what happens when North America has no Bill of Rights" and who weakly denies being a Republican because apparently it's 2006 again and conservatives are pants-shittingly terrified of being liked to the Republican party again.
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I believe that the National Review has more important things to worry about than how they appear on Real Time.
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nine-gear crow posted:Though I guess on Overtime he was the lone hold-out against raising the minimum wage. He wasn't just against raising the minimum wage, he claimed there shouldn't even be a minimum wage. Instead, poor people should get tax credits. I'm not sure what good that does when poor people don't pay much in taxes in the first place  It's just another conservative sleight of hand that assuages under-informed voters while filtering more and more money to the top.
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Former Human posted:He wasn't just against raising the minimum wage, he claimed there shouldn't even be a minimum wage. Instead, poor people should get tax credits. I'm not sure what good that does when poor people don't pay much in taxes in the first place At least when Bill asked him if he could live on $15,000 a year he just flat-out refused to answer so that really took a lot of the air out of his argument.
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The refusal of conservatives to admit they're Republicans is so weird. It's like the evil twin of people who identify as Democrats refusing to call themselves liberals. If you're a conservative who else is there to vote for other than the Republicans? The Klan? Or worse, the Libertarian Party? They should just change the name of the GOP to the Conservative party so everyone's identifications align properly.
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Feb 23, 2014 15:14
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Former Human posted:He wasn't just against raising the minimum wage, he claimed there shouldn't even be a minimum wage. Instead, poor people should get tax credits. I'm not sure what good that does when poor people don't pay much in taxes in the first place Not to be pedantic, but poor people pay a lot in taxes (a larger % of their income), its just not income taxes. Its sales, property, payroll and other taxes. Now, if we could give people sales tax credits that'd be awesome.
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Mar 1, 2014 04:26
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comes along bort posted:Ten minutes into the panel and Bill Kristol doesn't disappoint. I love how Bill called him out, something like "have you met a war you didn't like."
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comes along bort posted:Ten minutes into the panel and Bill Kristol doesn't disappoint. gently caress, you could plan your entire life around doing the opposite of everything that tumbles out of Bill Kristol's mouth.  How this man still has a job in mass media after literally everything he has said on tape as turned out to be exactly the opposite, I will never understand.
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I wouldn't really call the Weekly Standard mass media; it's more part of the bubble. But Irv Kristol had some good connections back in the day, to answer your question.
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Bill Kristol ruined this episode. His repeated response to Maher's points was to loudly ask "oh you really believe that???" No counter-argument or evidence of his own. Nice rebuttal, shithead.
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Well, that's the first image I've ever seen of Bill Kristol where he doesn't have some kind of awkward squirming smile on his face, like he's trying and failing to laugh off being publicly accused of making GBS threads his pants in front of a large group of people. But then again as the past hour has proven, Bill Kristol has no shame, so it's clearly just a case of the man being ridiculously unphotogenic.
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Former Human posted:Bill Kristol ruined this episode. His repeated response to Maher's points was to loudly ask "oh you really believe that???" Kristol sucked but at least he came out looking like a total idiotic rear end.
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Kristol is among the worst, to an almost unbelievable degree of buying into his own hype and then some, though the panel otherwise was of little to no aid trying to carry the show on otherwise---would've rather had the Meat guy in there as he seemed like the type that would tell Kristol to piss off outright.
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nine-gear crow posted:gently caress, you could plan your entire life around doing the opposite of everything that tumbles out of Bill Kristol's mouth. Conservatives are very much on record as being adamantly against reality. I've seen worse episodes, but this one had a little too much of stubborn dicks talking over each other with not enough iceburns to counteract it. Meat guy probably should have been on the panel, or at least been the late entry rather than that 120 year old guy ranting about flyovers.
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Dude Bruce Dern owns. Apart from maybe Austan Goolsbee he was by far the most knowledgeable person in the room.
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Former Human posted:Bill Kristol ruined this episode. His repeated response to Maher's points was to loudly ask "oh you really believe that???" I liked the section where both Bill's went back and forth with that line ~5 times. "Are you serious?!" Bruce Dern really took over the show for some time. Also, I liked Bill's joke about that multi-billionaire having a panic room modeled after Anne Frank's hideout. Zogo fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Mar 1, 2014 |
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Observations: 1) Bill Kristol is a human piece of poo poo. 2) Real Time's worst episodes are the ones with more than one conservative. It's best episodes are the ones with zero conservatives. 3) While Bruce Dern was telling his story about Adlai Stevenson's second run against Eisenhower, I began hoping that Bill would just keep talking only to Bruce Dern for the rest of the show as a "gently caress you" to the panel. (Austen Goolsbee is cool, but...)
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comes along bort posted:I wouldn't really call the Weekly Standard mass media; it's more part of the bubble. But Irv Kristol had some good connections back in the day, to answer your question. He's also an ABC News contributor and regularly appears on Fox.
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