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Killsion posted:It is pretty different from their previous material as you can tell by the sample. Album stays that slow to mid-tempo pace throughout. Seems to be a bit polarizing at the moment, with people either loving it, or disliking it specifically because it isn't fast, and doesn't contain a single blastbeat at all. On the other hand, I can't think of much else like this, so I feel like they finally found a good niche for the Kriegsmaschine sound, to really differentiate it from Mgla. Yeah I am well up for something slow and midtempo. The sample still sounded pretty much like a war machine, so it's all good with me. I'm listening to Haxan by CdG, never really got into Henbane like everyone else seemed to, but this is pretty great. And yeah, CoF were on before Behemoth.
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nomapple posted:The sample still sounded pretty much like a war machine, so it's all good with me. I totally thought that too. Just really plodding, crushing stuff. Album is really growing on me, definitely my second favorite of the year behind The Satanist.
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Killsion posted:I totally thought that too. Just really plodding, crushing stuff. Album is really growing on me, definitely my second favorite of the year behind The Satanist. HOW does The Satanist have so many good, catchy songs on it? The album sounds vital, their live show at the moment feels vital, it's brilliant to see them on such good form. I don't think I've seen a big metal album get such deserved universal acclaim for a while.
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So 1349 and Behemoth are playing in Worcester, MA in April, I'm really excited to see them. Does anyone know if Goatwhore will be playing with them? I've heard Cradle of Filth is playing but I'm not sure if Goatwhore is either. Also how are 1349 live? They're probably my favorite black metal band so I'm wicked excited to see them. Behemoth will be amazing too.
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Kvlt! posted:So 1349 and Behemoth are playing in Worcester, MA in April, I'm really excited to see them. Does anyone know if Goatwhore will be playing with them? I've heard Cradle of Filth is playing but I'm not sure if Goatwhore is either. Says they still are, but it's part of NEMHF which frankly is utter garbage. Kind of would of liked to see Behemoth after this new album.
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nomapple posted:HOW does The Satanist have so many good, catchy songs on it? The album sounds vital, their live show at the moment feels vital, it's brilliant to see them on such good form. I don't think I've seen a big metal album get such deserved universal acclaim for a while. Something I've noticed in interviews and public appearances is that Nergal seems really happy. It's the kiss of death for comedians and some songwriters, but his embrace of life after beating cancer really seems to have made his creative side come alive. There are a lot more overt "rock" influences evident as well which makes this probably the hookiest album they've ever done. In possibly (un)related news, Nergal is a judge on Poland's The Voice. I don't know what's weirder: Nergal appearing on The Voice or the creators of The Voice (and, by extension, the Polish public at large) finding it totally normal for a black metal musician to be a voice judge. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS-gJhhePDI Nergal::Adam Levine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxbLoeajtC4
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Monkeytime posted:In possibly (un)related news, Nergal is a judge on Poland's The Voice. I don't know what's weirder: Nergal appearing on The Voice or the creators of The Voice (and, by extension, the Polish public at large) finding it totally normal for a black metal musician to be a voice judge. Nergal hasn't been on the show since being removed in 2011 (Season 1). More time to worship Satan and perform REAL music I suppose. “Polands’s State TV has announced that they have removed Behemoth frontman Nergal, aka Adam Darski, from it’s talent show, The Voice Of Poland, after much pressure from the Catholic Church, claining that they will not replace him with another ‘death metal rock star.’
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Killsion posted:I totally thought that too. Just really plodding, crushing stuff. Album is really growing on me, definitely my second favorite of the year behind The Satanist. UPDATE: This Kriegsmaschine album rules. Other opinions are wrong. Absolutely crushing. It's nice to have more black metal that is actually heavy, not just raw. And if this is the niche they're going for to distinguish themselves from Mgła, I'm all for it. Really impressed with this, but I always like the slower bits in albums best anyway. Also, I've seen this said elsewhere a lot, but I'm just going to repeat it here: Oh my god the drumming on this record. War drums. This totally makes up for the disappointment I felt with the Avichi record (not that they're that similar, but I reckon this is the first great BM album of the year, at least in the "orthodox" style.)
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nomapple posted:UPDATE: This Kriegsmaschine album rules. Other opinions are wrong. Absolutely crushing. It's nice to have more black metal that is actually heavy, not just raw. And if this is the niche they're going for to distinguish themselves from Mgła, I'm all for it. Really impressed with this, but I always like the slower bits in albums best anyway. Also, I've seen this said elsewhere a lot, but I'm just going to repeat it here: Oh my god the drumming on this record. War drums. This totally makes up for the disappointment I felt with the Avichi record (not that they're that similar, but I reckon this is the first great BM album of the year, at least in the "orthodox" style.) The Avichi record I'm pretty mixed on right now. Some of it sounds great, but some of it seems off. The synth in Lightweaver for instance comes across so forced. I get he was going for something different, but I think he went a little too far. Also good lord the album cover art is atrocious. The Devil's Fractal had such great cover art too.
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Nergal was also in a movie about Nazis. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrIMq0DEo9E
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Monkeytime posted:I don't know what's weirder: Nergal appearing on The Voice or the creators of The Voice (and, by extension, the Polish public at large) finding it totally normal for a black metal musician to be a voice judge. Right now the weirdest thing to me is Behemoth not being seen as a hot topic band after one album
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Morbid Florist posted:Right now the weirdest thing to me is Behemoth not being seen as a hot topic band after one album Amazing what taking a band for their music can do, and not some misguided sense of kvltness. Then again your response is how I viewed all the earlier Amon Amarth discussion in the main thread.
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Killsion posted:Amazing what taking a band for their music can do, and not some misguided sense of kvltness. Then again your response is how I viewed all the earlier Amon Amarth discussion in the main thread. Behemoth is one of the most produced, plastic sounding black metal bands I've ever heard and the new album doesn't break that trend with me. I truly don't get the circle jerk over this new album at all.
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Why does it have to be a circle jerk and not just other humans liking it? Because you will likely accuse me of Being A Part Of The Circle Jerk, I didn't care for it.
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What blackened death metal was clearly missing was tons of vocal overdubs, riffs stolen from Nile, and using "ov" instead of "of" because it's more brutal Honestly, they've been repeating themselves since Thelema.6 or even earlier, and if anything the new album just has more catchy choruses and marketing going on. I thought the No Clean Singing editorial where the guy essentially whined about "elitist kvltists" calling Behemoth pop-metal was pretty telling. NCS is normally one of the better big metal blogs but that was a really silly article. Gamma Nerd fucked around with this message at 00:59 on Feb 16, 2014 |
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Who gives a gently caress if something is Kvlt or brvtal or "metal". If it sounds good, listen to it. If you don't like the sound, don't listen to it.
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New Behemoth owns, holy poo poo. WAY better than the last one
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Yeah seriously, who cares how kvlt it is - if you like the music, cool, if you don't, go listen to something you do like. I mean, unless we're talking about Merzbow or some Japanese shitnoise band like The Gerogerigegege, it's hard to call an album like The Satanist objectively bad. Edit-- Most people are just expressing their opinion, yes, but who cares what Nergal does in his free time or if the band is promoted in Hot Topic or whatever. Count Thrashula fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Feb 17, 2014 |
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QPZIL posted:The Gerogerigegege Pardon me, sir, but being naked on stage and giving yourself a blowjob with a vacuum cleaner while another person writhes on the floor screaming into a micrphone is art!
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Excuse me, I regularly listen to Merzbow and the Gerogerigegege for pleasure. Don't talk poo poo. I couldn't care less about cvlt status or whatever (I enjoy Boris and Isis, which would get me kicked off NWN and ANUS, and that's to say nothing of all the metalcore and slam death I listen to), I just think Behemoth releases are pretty redundant and don't really do anything with the combination of black and death metal that other bands (Imprecation, for instance) don't do better. This latest one is their best in a long time, though. I think we all agree on that. Gamma Nerd fucked around with this message at 06:37 on Feb 17, 2014 |
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QPZIL posted:Yeah seriously, who cares how kvlt it is - if you like the music, cool, if you don't, go listen to something you do like. I'm glad that music can't be objectively bad, unless it's music that you don't like.
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QPZIL posted:Yeah seriously, who cares how kvlt it is - if you like the music, cool, if you don't, go listen to something you do like. Oh my god you absolute scrub. Tokyo Anal Dynamite is amazing.
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QPZIL posted:I mean, unless we're talking about Merzbow Well, it can be tough to get into, but I wouldn't get discouraged - I'd recommend merzbeat or merzbient for first time listeners.
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no they will not posted:Well, it can be tough to get into, but I wouldn't get discouraged - I'd recommend merzbeat or merzbient for first time listeners. loliripe is superior japcore.
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Let me clarify - I enjoy Merzbow, especially his stuff with Boris, I'm just saying that I could at least entertain a "this is objectively bad" argument when it comes to music that is literal noise.
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I have learned that 'Japanoise' is an actual genre. Thanks guys!
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Morbid Florist posted:Behemoth is one of the most produced, plastic sounding black metal bands I've ever heard and the new album doesn't break that trend with me. I wouldn't really classify Behemoth as a "black metal" for the last 15+ years. The new album kicks much rear end and isn't nearly as over produced as the majority of poo poo out today.
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The album is definitely well produced, but I wouldn't say it's over produced. It's just a kick rear end big metal release with great riffs and stuff. Also I just spent €20 on a copy of the Cosmic Church/Circle of Ouroboros split, only to discover it's up for repress imminently. Oh well, still excited to get my copy. Definitely going to be picking up a repress of the CC album from last year as well because it's absolutely stellar.
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The Satanist is the most aggressively ok album I've heard in a long time. It's just there occupying space and is neither good nor bad. Like smooth Jazz it's something inoffensive to put on in the background while you're doing other poo poo.
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Objectively bad black metal post, from best to worst: The cover of "In League with Satan" found here is puzzlingly terrible and incomplete. https://myspace.com/rancidentity This isn't really metal but it's supposed to be some sort of depressive black metal. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1CMIjqKrS8 This is just a complete failure to compose, perform, and record music in every way possible. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIDfnmo4ax4
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The more recent Spear of Longinus albums are pretty loving bad. It's like they stopped giving a poo poo after Nada Brahma. In a way it's pretty cool how low-effort it all is but not really worth my hard-earned socialist utopia money. Here's a SOL cover with a great video though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I986t-VqFE
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no they will not posted:Well, it can be tough to get into, but I wouldn't get discouraged - I'd recommend merzbeat or merzbient for first time listeners. Merzbeat is poo poo though, I'd listen to Hybrid Noisebloom or 1930 personally Oh and here are the kings of really bad black metal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50ws2AqfuvE
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Gamma Nerd posted:Oh and here are the kings of really bad black metal: Oh yeah this is poo poo, but at least it's got a weird autistic Havohej-esque charm to it unlike most bedroom BM projects.
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m-o-o-n posted:Oh yeah this is poo poo, but at least it's got a weird autistic Havohej-esque charm to it unlike most bedroom BM projects. have you listened to Havohej's recent stuff, like Kembatinan Premaster? Weird as gently caress. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbfwOijvUDE Black metal which doesn't sound like it uses guitars is oddly charming.
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nomapple posted:The album is definitely well produced, but I wouldn't say it's over produced. It's just a kick rear end big metal release with great riffs and stuff. Ahhh, stoked to hear some Cosmic Church talk. Slept on buying the Ylistys LP and now I'm kicking myself, though I did manage to grab a copy of the Arcana Dei Trilogy, a comp of their early stuff. Awesome band, Ylistys is definitely top 5 black metal albums of 2013.
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^It sounds like Teloch has had a very strong hand in composing this time around...definitely getting Nidingr vibes from that song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqURdlAAd8M
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