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Oxxidation posted:I've started fighting the DLC bosses in XIII-2 and I'm having a surprisingly easy time of it. Omega dropped like a sack of bricks and I got his crystal to boot, though I'm sticking with Tonberry for now. It was hilarious watching Lightning bust out Army of One on him while he just kind of glanced around like a fly was buzzing near his ear. The little guy's built like a brick shithouse. Tonberry is cool, but Omega attacks like 12 times in a row. So if you put his attack power through the roof, enemies basically melt.
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I started playing XIII-2. This game is going to be a struggle. I actually didn't hate 13. I liked some of the characters (Lightning, Sazh, and Fang) and was for the most part able to ignore the other muppets in the cast, and the story wasn't anything worse than typical anime garbage. It was at least comprehensible, which was pleasant if not a bit bland. I even felt like the stagger system was kind of interesting if not a little bit underdeveloped and tedious. My biggest complaint against the game was probably Snow and how horrible and awful a character he is, which gets into my major issue with XIII-2. Holy loving poo poo Noel. Noel is a smarmy Kingdom Hearts character thrown into this game. I've never been a fan of the Fabula Nova Crystalis art direction but Noel's visual design is an attack on any visual coherence the game wanted to have. Not to mention James Marsden really phoning in the performance. I can deal with Serah and can ignore Mog but Noel is such a terrible clashy Macguffin it hurts. What someone said about this game being like Fanfiction isn't far off, it totally feels like the game's story was just some alternate universe scenario to justify someone's lovely OC. How this game develops into Lightning Returns I have yet to discover but I'm sure it will be something convoluted and nonsensical.
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Feb 14, 2014 08:32
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Barudak posted:It still a ton of fun* even if it has one of the most irritating mandatory town sidequests in Final Fantasy history. If you're talking about I'm Captain Basch, then you literally could not be any more wrong.
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Feb 14, 2014 08:48
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I'M CAPTAIN BASCH DON'T BELIEVE BARUDAK'S LIES!
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Feb 14, 2014 09:07
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Fister Roboto posted:If you're talking about I'm Captain Basch, then you literally could not be any more wrong. My first thought was actually the Archades rumour sidequest, that was just padding.
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Feb 14, 2014 09:11
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Okay, got my copy of LR. Other than the Dark Knight thing mentioned before, is everything reasonably straightforward to get? No stupid 'you didn't pet a cat in chapter 2 now you can't get the Wonder Sword of Glory' bullshit? Also, someone mentioned earlier that there's a throwaway datalog in FFXIII that brings up more questions about the world of Cocoon than anything else. Can someone elaborate?
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Feb 14, 2014 11:35
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ApplesandOranges posted:My first thought was actually the Archades rumour sidequest, that was just padding. Indeed, I'm not shocked at FFXIIs horrid pacing, nothing that goes through 3 directors is going to come out without some hiccups, and for FFXII the biggest hiccup was pacing.
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Feb 14, 2014 11:41
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laplace posted:I started playing XIII-2. This game is going to be a struggle. Buy Noel's space-armor DLC if his parachute pants grate on you that much, the outfit still looks out of place but it's pretty baller. Noel himself is terrible, though, there's no getting around that.
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Feb 14, 2014 13:54
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ApplesandOranges posted:My first thought was actually the Archades rumour sidequest, that was just padding. This person gets it. This led directly into the nigh-on pointless chops quest and both were dragged out and meaningless padding. I'm CAPTAIN BOSCH FON RONSENBERG was ok if a little tedious. The two missions in Archades have no reason to exist.
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Feb 14, 2014 14:45
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Barudak posted:This person gets it. This led directly into the nigh-on pointless chops quest and both were dragged out and meaningless padding. I didn't mind the one in Lowtown because it basically was a way to teach you that "hey, it's less money that makes things happen here and more information/who you know". Then they spent like 30 minutes forcibly drilling that into your head with the chops poo poo. gently caress you, Jules. 
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Feb 14, 2014 15:41
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Oxxidation posted:Buy Noel's space-armor DLC if his parachute pants grate on you that much, the outfit still looks out of place but it's pretty baller. Noel himself is terrible, though, there's no getting around that. Confirming this. I bought it within about an hour of starting the game because having him look like Sora was a bit much. It's only a couple bucks. You can also get a teeeeeny tiny bikini for Serah 
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Feb 14, 2014 19:20
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Kalenn Istarion posted:Confirming this. I bought it within about an hour of starting the game because having him look like Sora was a bit much. It's only a couple bucks. You can also get a teeeeeny tiny bikini for Serah Serah's White Mage outfit is a mandatory purchase as far as I'm concerned, it's the only one she has that's in the same zip code as actual clothing.
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Feb 14, 2014 19:50
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1st AD posted:Cyan still kind of stinks in FF6 mobile, because the charge times on his sword tech is still crappy even if it no longer holds up everybody else's turn. So should I imp him later or maybe make him into a Dragoon? Cyan is one of those characters who I hated having in my party but I hated him sucking later on. Now whenever I play FFVI I always make him one of the first characters I beef up with a ton of magic so I can ignore him later on.
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Feb 14, 2014 20:12
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Oxxidation posted:Serah's White Mage outfit is a mandatory purchase as far as I'm concerned, it's the only one she has that's in the same zip code as actual clothing. Yeah that one isn't bad.
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Feb 14, 2014 20:22
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Paper Jam Dipper posted:Cyan is one of those characters who I hated having in my party but I hated him sucking later on. Now whenever I play FFVI I always make him one of the first characters I beef up with a ton of magic so I can ignore him later on. I think I'll just make dragoon imps with Cyan, Mog, and Setzer and throw them in at the start of the endgame battle.
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Feb 14, 2014 20:36
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In other news, Unsung Story has been successfully funded with a pretty big push at the end - over $150,000 raised in the past couple days. They made a bunch of last minute changes to the rewards and added a number of things to the base package that were previously stretch rewards. I know it's not technically FF, but should be an interesting spiritual successor to the FFT series. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/482445197/unsung-story-tale-of-the-guardians
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Feb 14, 2014 22:34
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Kalenn Istarion posted:In other news, Unsung Story has been successfully funded with a pretty big push at the end - over $150,000 raised in the past couple days. They made a bunch of last minute changes to the rewards and added a number of things to the base package that were previously stretch rewards. I know it's not technically FF, but should be an interesting spiritual successor to the FFT series. I wish they skipped the ports until later and went right for NG+ and the map creator. Maybe challenge mode but other than that the rest is just fluff.
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Feb 14, 2014 23:25
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GreenBuckanneer posted:I wish they skipped the ports until later and went right for NG+ and the map creator. Maybe challenge mode but other than that the rest is just fluff. Yeah, personally that's a bit more interesting but the whole point of the kickstarter was to fund the PC port. They've got sufficient internal funding to make the iOS version. I'm actually not sure whether I'd rather have for my iPad or my laptop.
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Feb 15, 2014 00:17
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SSNeoman posted:Tonberry is cool, but Omega attacks like 12 times in a row. So if you put his attack power through the roof, enemies basically melt. Yea with the right set up, Omega is almost attacking non stop. He pauses for like 1 second before resuming his barrage of death.
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Feb 15, 2014 00:23
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laplace posted:something convoluted and nonsensical. FFXIII.txt
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Feb 15, 2014 00:29
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Huh, I was reading through the LR guide and noticed that it explains Snow's l'Cie powers as being derived from the fal'Cie Cactaur. Was this ever explained in FF13-2?
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TheHeadSage posted:Huh, I was reading through the LR guide and noticed that it explains Snow's l'Cie powers as being derived from the fal'Cie Cactaur. Was this ever explained in FF13-2? Not specifically. (13-2 spoilers) In 13-2 it's mentioned that he sees a vision of Serah's death and gains a new set of powers from a Fal'cie in order to utilise the Etro gates, but it's not said who. In some Japanese-only voice stuff Cactuar is specifically mentioned as a benevolent Fal'cie who grants him a personalised focus for that one mission. (LR spoilers) In LR he's given yet another set of l'Cie powers by another Fal'cie, Pandemonium?, in order to keep the chaos in Yusnaan at bay. It's mentioned that Pandemonium (I forget if this was his name) is the last remaining Fal'cie, and provides the vast majority of the remaining world's energy and food. So, Snow effectively has 3 different Fal'cie benefactors - Pulse, Cactuar and Pandemonium.
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Feb 15, 2014 13:01
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 http://www.destructoid.com/the-extremely-popular-lightning-may-return-again--270632.phtml Toriyama posted:"But we know that Lightning is an extremely popular character, even when compared to other Final Fantasy characters. So there is a possibility that Lightning would appear in other future Final Fantasy titles, not as a protagonist, but as a guest character." As much as I hope it's more tongue in cheek references like in other games I wouldn't be surprised if Lightning showed up unannounced in future games and handed out plot points to whatever protagonist in need.
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Feb 16, 2014 07:09
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nexas posted:As much as I hope it's more tongue in cheek references like in other games I wouldn't be surprised if Lightning showed up unannounced in future games and handed out plot points to whatever protagonist in need. I don't even like FF13 but it seems like people are looking for any excuse to get their underwear in a bunch about it.
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Feb 16, 2014 07:12
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Please no. Pleeease no. I don't want it. Then again, with Square's new track record, I'll be too old by the time she shows up again to even be interested in Square products probably.
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Feb 16, 2014 07:13
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I could see Lightning becoming Square's Asagi counterpart, only instead of hijacking games because hers was cancelled, she's doing it because she craves the spotlight now. Except that would require Square to have a sense of self-awareness that extends past fanservice. I'd still like to see another Gilgamesh DLC though.
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Feb 16, 2014 07:17
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Not having played any FFXIII games, if Lightning started hanging out with Gilgamesh, I'd be okay with that, but if Gilgamesh started hanging out with Lightning, I would be worried.
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Feb 16, 2014 07:35
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Feb 16, 2014 07:38
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Bongo Bill posted:Not having played any FFXIII games, if Lightning started hanging out with Gilgamesh, I'd be okay with that, but if Gilgamesh started hanging out with Lightning, I would be worried. In the next game Gilgamesh is a summon who shows up. Midway through the game he is killed and Lightning appears from nowhere to reclaim Odin's sword from him. She is your summon for the rest of the game.
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Feb 16, 2014 08:09
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I dunno. Maybe freeing poor Lightning from the sweaty grip of Toriyama would be a good thing.
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ImpAtom posted:In the next game Gilgamesh is a summon who shows up. Midway through the game he is killed and Lightning appears from nowhere to reclaim Odin's sword from him. She is your summon for the rest of the game. This would be the best possible outcome and I'm sad it will probably never happen.
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MonsieurChoc posted:I dunno. Maybe freeing poor Lightning from the sweaty grip of Toriyama would be a good thing. She was actually able to crack something of a joke and show genuine empathy for Firion in Duodecim, so yeah she can be pretty cool when not being portrayed as the savior goddess.
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Feb 16, 2014 09:10
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Duodecim made Squall somewhat entertaining. Duodecim is the Good Final Fantasy.
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Feb 16, 2014 09:20
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Nah, it's the Worst. Like all Final Fantasies.
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My only problem with Duodecim is making Terra so weak and spineless and removing all the fun parts of Zidane but yeah, Squall was good. And Kefka's voice actor was pitch-perfect. "I see a poser."
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Feb 16, 2014 09:25
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Is Lightning really that popular? Most of the reactions I've seen are along the lines of "she's okay" to "awful emotionless blob of a character". Am I reading the wrong sites or are Square seriously just determined for her to be popular?
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Feb 16, 2014 14:37
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We've gone over this a million times, yes. She's very popular especially in Japan where they would use her popularity to help market FFXIII-2.
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Feb 16, 2014 14:40
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Enallyniv posted:Is Lightning really that popular? Most of the reactions I've seen are along the lines of "she's okay" to "awful emotionless blob of a character". Am I reading the wrong sites or are Square seriously just determined for her to be popular?
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Kaboom Dragoon posted:I could see Lightning becoming Square's Asagi counterpart, only instead of hijacking games because hers was cancelled, she's doing it because she craves the spotlight now. Only if we get a song like Asagi Metamorphosis out of it.
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nexas posted:
I think Square is mistaking people talking about lightning as a bad character as being excited about lightning as a good character. Like they google search for "lightning ff13" and go LOOK SHES POPULAR Or likely they only looked at japanese gamers and ignored the rest of the world. Is she popular there? Sex_Ferguson posted:We've gone over this a million times, yes. She's very popular especially in Japan where they would use her popularity to help market FFXIII-2. Hrm. Seems I was right. Why are Japanese developers/publishers so ignorant of everyone else? Or do they just go "this is a game made for US, who cares what the rest of the world thinks?"
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