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nwin posted:Kinda toying around the idea of maybe selling my Accord and just buying something when I get to New England. It's paid off and I can easily drive it into the ground, but gently caress is it ever boring. It's an 07 Accord Sedan EX-L. Just trying to see what you guys would suggest based on the following: Miata or RX8 depending on how much fuel economy you are willing to give up for fun.
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Throatwarbler posted:Miata or RX8 depending on how much fuel economy you are willing to give up for fun. The idea of a RWD as a daily driver in a place that gets snow seems like a bad idea to me, no? I know snow tires and all that, but I guess I just haven't had any experience with it to feel comfortable (yes I know a BMW would be RWD).
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I'm guess I m just not sure that there is anything else that would be so much more fun than an Accord that I would buy one if I already had the Accord, a pretty lively car to begin with. I mean I suppose a BMW might be more fun but I wouldn't buy a BMW in addition to the Accord just for that reason.
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Grumpwagon posted:Doesn't it also have the turbo? The turbo engine is pretty peppy but you can get the turbo engine in other trims too, the RS doesn't have any more power or performance. It's not in the same league as the Fiesta ST.
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Grumpwagon posted:I like how you've made like 25 posts here asking about cars, then ended up buying an overpriced car from a marginal generation. Hey! I like my '04 manual civic. It is not a bad car at all.  I also paid less than half what an skeleton is thinking, and I upgraded from a '96 Ford Escort shitbox, so my point of reference is probably a little skewed.
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nwin posted:The idea of a RWD as a daily driver in a place that gets snow seems like a bad idea to me, no? I know snow tires and all that, but I guess I just haven't had any experience with it to feel comfortable (yes I know a BMW would be RWD).
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I'll be starting my first job since graduating college in a week, and am looking for an affordable way to commute to work. Right now, I'm looking at either buying a used subcompact sedan/hatchback (Honda Fit, Nissan Versa, etc.), or leasing. I found a new graduate program at a nearby dealership to lease a 2014 Corolla at 184.79+tax for 24 months, 0 drive off, 12k miles a year (34 mile commute temporarily the next few months, until I find somewhere closer). Is there some sort of catch? Or would it still be better to buy. I feel very unprepared to shop around for a new car, since I need one very urgently. My financial situation is: I'll be making 57k/year pre-tax (in California) and have no debts/student loans. I am anticipating ~$1300 max for rent+utilities in the area I'm moving into. I would really appreciate some insight on how much I can actually afford. Wackymole fucked around with this message at 05:51 on Feb 25, 2014 |
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12000mi a year might be limiting if your job isn't permanent. That's only about 230mi a week. That seems like a lot until you factor in all the driving people do that isn't communing.
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True I am at somewhat looking for confirmation bias. However I have been searching for cars for like a month and I don't think it's grossly overpriced. It is in the best condition of any other car I looked at and most other civics I saw in the $6-7k range had 30-50k more miles on them. I'm also in a position where I am running out of time to choose a car. There's absolutely no doubt in my mind that I could've found a better deal had I kept looking but I really wanted a Civic and I got one. I think that I made a better purchase than the average individual would, even if it is below the standards of this thread. I am not even sure what "advice" I ignored, exactly. edit: I will say that the peace of mind of not having to worry about transportation any more will be worth it. I'll probably ride this baby until it hits 200k or more so whatever. an skeleton fucked around with this message at 07:42 on Feb 25, 2014 |
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200k is fine if you're willing to put a bit of preventative service into it. Just keep in mind that preventative service is a bit more involved north of 100k, but nothing near impossible these days.
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an skeleton posted:I am not even sure what "advice" I ignored, exactly. The advice was "if Civics are overpriced in your local market, buy something that is not a Civic." You had your mind made up that you would be buying a Civic no matter what, so you bought a Civic. It's not a terrible car, so enjoy it!
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Twerk from Home posted:The advice was "if Civics are overpriced in your local market, buy something that is not a Civic." You had your mind made up that you would be buying a Civic no matter what, so you bought a Civic. It's not a terrible car, so enjoy it! I feel like I didn't really get that advice until the very end. I actually specifically asked (I think) what other cars I should consider earlier in the thread and didn't get a response. Anyways, I could be wrong but I'm not gonna search my own posts to find out. Thanks, I can't wait to pick it up on Thursday. Either way I learned a lot from this thread!
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nwin posted:The idea of a RWD as a daily driver in a place that gets snow seems like a bad idea to me, no? I know snow tires and all that, but I guess I just haven't had any experience with it to feel comfortable (yes I know a BMW would be RWD). It's not that bad. I lived in the Boston area and drove a 1-series with snow tires and did just fine. I now drive a Focus ST and honestly it's marginally better in the snow but not much.
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Wackymole posted:I'll be starting my first job since graduating college in a week, and am looking for an affordable way to commute to work. Right now, I'm looking at either buying a used subcompact sedan/hatchback (Honda Fit, Nissan Versa, etc.), or leasing. Wait, no money down on that lease term? It sounds like a decent deal, especially for a temporary and reliable car. I would imagine you could get a vehicle that is not from 2004, though, if you really wanted. I have seen 199/mo leases on Mazda3s. Just make sure you know what the excess mileage penalty is - if you're doing a 34 mile commute (RT or each way?) that is either 8,500 miles for commuting per year, or 17,000. KYOON GRIFFEY JR fucked around with this message at 16:50 on Feb 25, 2014 |
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an skeleton posted:I feel like I didn't really get that advice until the very end. I actually specifically asked (I think) what other cars I should consider earlier in the thread and didn't get a response. Anyways, I could be wrong but I'm not gonna search my own posts to find out. Thanks, I can't wait to pick it up on Thursday. Either way I learned a lot from this thread! Nobody really specifically answered your question about what other cars to consider because this thread is literally only comprised of people who should buy a Prius or are looking for a midsized/compact sedan or hatch, therefore the correct benchmarks for midsized/compact sedans are generally posted on every single page. I guess some people are looking for CUVs as well but come on, man.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Wait, no money down on that lease term? No money down on that lease term, but I'm sure there will be additional fees involved. I have a 34 mile round trip commute, since I'm staying temporarily with a friend that lives a little far away. Between negotiating additional miles (6-8k) and finding an apartment closer to work, I shouldn't have issues with the mileage limit. If there are no surprises, I think I'll go with the leasing option. It'll give me time to settle into the area and save up money for a used car. edit: Thanks Kyoon Griffey Jr, I'll use this deal as a starting point and shop around for potentially better ones. It does set my mind at ease that I'm not walking into any traps. Wackymole fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Feb 25, 2014 |
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an skeleton posted:So I'm about to pull the trigger on a 2003 Civic EX with 91k miles on it. 7600 out the door seems a little high, but its in good condition and they are giving it a realignment, replacing one of the seats that has damage, and I think putting new tires on it. If anyone wants to advise me against it, speak now or forever hold your peace If you are going to buy a 2003 for that much money, it gives me hope when I go to sell my 02 with only 53k miles in pretty fantastic condition. Come up here and buy mine for $9k!
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I'm looking at lightly used Taurus SHO's again and I'm almost ready to pull the trigger but I wonder if I'm not considering a vehicle I might enjoy more, or would be a better fit. Proposed Budget: up to 30K USD or 450/mo Lease New or Used: Lightly used CPO for purchase, New for Lease Body Style: 4 door mid sized sedan or larger How will you be using the car?: Commuting mostly. I drive 160 miles round trip 2 to 3 times a week all freeway at 80MPH. I have 2 children in car seats so no compact sedans or 2 door coupes. Have a super long commute? Yes. 2.5 hours a day 3 times a week. Do you prefer a luxury vehicle with all the gizmos? I don't need/want a luxury marque, but I want something with in a nice trim level. Leather, keyless entry, upgraded stereo, bluetooth connectivity. Remote start would be nice but I can live without NAV or heated seats. What aspects are most important to you? I want something comfortable on the freeway (low tire and wind noise), but still has available power and is somewhat sporty. I'm not drag racing or taking it to track days, but I want it to scoot when I need to get out of a nasty situation on the freeway. 0-60 under 6.5 seconds, around 300HP if possible. My current car has 260 HP and it's fine but I wouldn't mind something a little faster. Not terribly worried about MPG and premium fuel is fine as long as it can get 24HWY MPG or better which most new cars these days easily get. -Premium Stereo is a necessity, the Sony system in my current Ford Fusion is plenty adequate. My commute is my time to listen to adult music. -Reasonable maintenance costs. No special crazy expensive tires, no moon juice oil. Right now this is my front runner. It seems it was a Ford Manager's car and the guy put 18K miles on it and they sent it to auction. http://bbmotors.com/San-Antonio/For-Sale/Used-Certified/Ford/Taurus/2013-SHO-White-Car/23654260/ I've also considered Lexus GS sedans, but those are hard to find in my price range and the newer Buick's intrigue me. My last 5 cars have been Ford's though so I'm partial to the brand and familiar with the Sync system. I plan on keeping whatever I buy for approximately 3 years and then getting into something else. I know I'm that dickhead poster that has his mind 90% made up already, but I'm open to other cars. If someone says, dude you really should go look at a used Hyundai Genesis or something, I'll go drive one and see how I like it.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:It's not that bad. I lived in the Boston area and drove a 1-series with snow tires and did just fine. I now drive a Focus ST and honestly it's marginally better in the snow but not much. Pretty much any heavy rwd car will be fine, but a miata in even a slightly hilly area is going to be in trouble. At the start of winter the miatas collected at the bottom of the biggest hills are sort of a tradition around here.
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Wackymole posted:No money down on that lease term, but I'm sure there will be additional fees involved. I have a 34 mile round trip commute, since I'm staying temporarily with a friend that lives a little far away. Between negotiating additional miles (6-8k) and finding an apartment closer to work, I shouldn't have issues with the mileage limit. Yeah, look in to the fees carefully, but it seems like a decent deal. I will repeat that you can probably get a much better small car for similar terms - Dart, Cruze, Focus, Mazda3, Civic etc, so shop around. Check terms on mileage overage and disposal fees etc, but you should be OK on that one.
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skipdogg posted:I'm looking at lightly used Taurus SHO's again and I'm almost ready to pull the trigger but I wonder if I'm not considering a vehicle I might enjoy more, or would be a better fit. Check out the new Kia Cadenza. Throatwarbler fucked around with this message at 02:52 on Feb 26, 2014 |
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skipdogg posted:I'm looking at lightly used Taurus SHO's again and I'm almost ready to pull the trigger but I wonder if I'm not considering a vehicle I might enjoy more, or would be a better fit. Used Infiniti M The Genesis is actually pretty good to as a cruiser, but it isn't "sporty." Also, I'd rather not have a car last used by someone who didn't own it and knew he'd get rid of it.
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Chrysler 300 V6 with the 8-speed auto. UConnect is shockingly good. You can get one basically to your spec for 30K new plus tax title etc. If you're looking used, there are probably a ton of 300Cs out there as well. More power, less fuel economy. KYOON GRIFFEY JR fucked around with this message at 05:32 on Feb 26, 2014 |
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Chrysler 300 V6 with the 8-speed auto. UConnect is shockingly good. You can get one basically to your spec for 30K new plus tax title etc. The 300 V6 isn't going to hit 60 in under 6.5s probably. the SHO is going to be a lot faster than any of the 300s except for the SRT - 5.7l still has the 5 speed trans and does 0-60 in the same time as the V6, unlike.... nm posted:Chevy SS/Pontiac G8 GT The Genesis, which even in V6 trim has been pretty zippy since the whole lineup went to 8 speed transmissions in 2013(?). Can you really get an SS for his price range though? It MSRPs at like $45k, half the threads over on the GM forums are people bitching about it.
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The 300S V6 goes 0-60 right around the 6.5 range. I've seen 6.4-6.6. Not saying that it's faster than the SHO, but it certainly meets the poster's criteria, unless the dude really wants the level of performance for dick-measure-to-a-number rather than an actual "How fast is my car" target.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:The 300S V6 goes 0-60 right around the 6.5 range. I've seen 6.4-6.6. Not saying that it's faster than the SHO, but it certainly meets the poster's criteria, unless the dude really wants the level of performance for dick-measure-to-a-number rather than an actual "How fast is my car" target. It's right on the border of what he would find acceptable. The non-SRT LX cars despite being RWD are really heavy and large and not very fast at all, about on par with a Lexus ES or Buick LAcrosse. A VR6 Passat or V6 Accord would walk a V8 300 from a stoplight. The SHO with the performance pack gear ratios and the AWD hookup is a *much* faster car. It's not a trivial difference. http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/1205_2013_ford_taurus_sho_performance_package_first_test/ The Infiniti and the Hyundai would at least be in the same ballpark.
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I found a 2007 Honda Civic Hybrid for sale for $10,788 at a dealer. Copy/paste from the site: 96K miles, Civic trim, 51 MPG Hwy/49 MPG City, iPod/MP3 Input, CD Player, Hybrid, Aluminum Wheels, Head Airbag, Rear Spoiler, Keyless Entry, Remote Trunk Release. It sounds like a pretty decent price for the car & KBB lists the 'fair price' as a max of ~$9700 (unless I clicked something wrong). Worth looking at/trying to talk the price down a bit?  And now I find an 05 Civic with 97k miles for 10K, but not a hybrid (which I dont care about) ladyweapon fucked around with this message at 20:23 on Feb 26, 2014 |
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Price seems a little high for that year, and you really want to know if the battery packs have been replaced. If they have not, that is a big expense that you will have to do soonish. The 7th gen civic hybrid was rated for 7 years, and that 2007 (8th gen) is right at that point. If it had every maintance record for you to peruse and new tires/timing belt etc it would probably sell at that price. Personally, I wouldn't take the risk on a used hybrid. It will be painfully slow. If you found a regular 07 civic for 8-9k, it would take you 4-5 years to make up the cost in gas compared to the hybrid.
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Godinster posted:Mini is absolute dog poo poo for reliability. Literally the worst car there is. I have an 05 mini with 60K on the clock, and have performed regular maintenance, and my only complaint is that sometimes when it's freezing outside the door handles stick. Is doom impending?
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ladyweapon posted:I found a 2007 Honda Civic Hybrid for sale for $10,788 at a dealer. Copy/paste from the site: 96K miles, Civic trim, 51 MPG Hwy/49 MPG City, iPod/MP3 Input, CD Player, Hybrid, Aluminum Wheels, Head Airbag, Rear Spoiler, Keyless Entry, Remote Trunk Release. It sounds like a pretty decent price for the car & KBB lists the 'fair price' as a max of ~$9700 (unless I clicked something wrong). Worth looking at/trying to talk the price down a bit? If you just want reliable practical transportation, I saw your budget included $15k for new. Depending on the local incentives situation, you should be able to get an automatic 2014 Ford Focus Hatchback for $15k, and I think that is a hell of a better deal than a 10 year old civic for $10k.
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Old Man Pants posted:I have an 05 mini with 60K on the clock, and have performed regular maintenance, and my only complaint is that sometimes when it's freezing outside the door handles stick. Is doom impending? Everyone I know with a Mini had a fatal oil leak around 60k. Your car will not let you know anything is wrong until the engine seizes. One person caught it before the engine seized but the faulty part was so far back ordered that the car died before the part came in. My '12 Mini's clutch went out at 28k so I ditched it since it was paid off and got something more reliable.
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FWIW my coworker has been daily driving a 2002 Mini Cooper (manual) since he bought it new and has almost 150k miles on it and he hasn't had any catastrophic issues. A few more issues than a Corolla maybe, but it's a lot more fun than a Corolla. It's never left him stranded.
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Those Taurus SHO look like something I would buy but it seems there are not too cpo around my way right now. How much worse would a limited be? I know it won't be as quick or good handling but is it a little worse or entirely different cars?
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The inside of the cars would be almost the same, but the SHO's selling point is the power of the car. A regular Taurus isn't a bad car, and Ford's Limited trim has a lot of nice features available, and as a bonus for folks looking CPO their value didn't hold worth a poo poo. I've seen loaded Limited Taurus' in my area for low to mid 20's. There's a 2014 Limited CPO with 20K miles on it that stickered at 39K on the lot at my dealer for 26K right now. 26K for a sedan with a bunch of fancy stuff on it like heated/cooled seats, rain sensing wipers, blind spot monitoring etc isn't a bad deal really. The problem with a regular Taurus in my eyes is I'm willing to overlook some of it's shortcomings in the SHO model because of the performance. As a normal full sized sedan, it's not a very good one. The cabin can be a bit small, and it doesn't really outshine the competition in any other categories. It is a very solid car with a very solid drive train (3.5L V6), and slightly used they can be a very compelling value, but I would never recommend someone buy one new unless there was a ton of cash on the hood (and there currently is). In summary, it's a good car, there are just 'better' options out there right now for the same amount of money.
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Consumer Reports just listed the Taurus as the worst new car in the large sedan market. Reasons include MyFordTouch, cramped cabin, and very poor visibility, as well as a general lack of positives. Even the SHO only handles well "for what it is," that being a ~4400lb sedan.
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Quick question before I poke around too much, do sites like carsdirect.com do much more than point you in the direction of a salesman at a dealership? A friend said it was a good way to dodge the negotiation part of buying, but I don't really buy ( ) that.(Even so, nifty for actually finding the car you're looking for, I suppose.)
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Ciaphas posted:Quick question before I poke around too much, do sites like carsdirect.com do much more than point you in the direction of a salesman at a dealership? A friend said it was a good way to dodge the negotiation part of buying, but I don't really buy ( I've had better luck with getting a lower price by emailing or calling a dealer directly, and telling them "I saw price X, but I'd like to go down to Z, can you do that?" Still, if you hate to negotiate, sites aren't bad. Just be content with getting an "average" deal.
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I made a post a while back but it got buried at the bottom of the page. I think I needed to be asking different questions anyway though. I just got my first real job out of college and my ~2000 Geo Metro has 150k miles and probably won't last much longer. I need to get something new to drive but I really hate the idea of a car loan hanging over my head for years. I can maybe put 5k down and do up to $4-500 for monthly payments. All I want is a car that will last me 10-15 years of <10k miles a year that I can own in less than 3 years. I have no idea what I should be looking for though. New? Used? Craigslist used? Dealership used? I have never bought a car before, so any advice would be appreciated.
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Continuum Potato posted:I made a post a while back but it got buried at the bottom of the page. I think I needed to be asking different questions anyway though. Set aside $500/mo in a savings account and drive your Geo until it dies. Also fill out the questions from the OP.
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