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VikingSkull posted:If he did, he wouldn't even try, because we* sure as gently caress don't want F1. Speak for yourself, rear end in a top hat 
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Kilonum posted:Speak for yourself, rear end in a top hat You're a foamer posting in this very thread, not the majority of motorsports* fans in the US. But yeah, a trip out to see F1 at COTA seemed interesting (I've got no problem traveling to see a good race... every 500 since 2007, plus Vegas 2011, Fontana 2012/2013, and Long Beach 2012 will attest to that) right up until I saw the ticket prices. I think in tickets alone to F1 at COTA, I could cover the total trip costs for all three of those Socal races that I went to. Hotels in Fontana are loving cheap after all, and I crashed on my sister-in-law's floor for LB. *NASCAR 
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Mar 7, 2014 00:24
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Kilonum posted:Speak for yourself, rear end in a top hat way to prove my point haha
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Mar 7, 2014 00:47
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I don't think "nobody here likes F1 except the people who like F1" is a very difficult thing to prove
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Mar 7, 2014 00:50
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I like the US GP. F1 does pretty well in Canada too, so there is room for both series in North America.
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Mar 7, 2014 00:53
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FuzzySkinner posted:Meh. It can certainly be a thing. I argue that the Austin GP is good enough for the time being, and that if the NJ GP ever got off the ground, it would be okay. Yeah SoCal is a pretty poor area of the country, nobody can afford it there.
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Mar 7, 2014 01:54
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Please no more F1 chat, it's somehow less relevant in this country than even IndyCar and thats really really saying something.
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Mar 7, 2014 01:56
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Anyone got their tickets for LBGP yet?
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Mar 7, 2014 02:09
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Cygni posted:Please no more F1 chat, it's somehow less relevant in this country than even IndyCar and thats really really saying something. A quality post. BTW, is this you? http://www.trackforum.com/forums/showthread.php?57486-Cygni-s-White-Papers (I don't post, it just came up in google searches)
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Mar 7, 2014 02:22
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That one is prolly my older brother. There was like 5 members of my extended family sharing that one account for a while. I used to post on TF. Crapwagon, and even 7th Gear, truly a shameful posting history.
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Mar 7, 2014 02:35
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Cygni posted:I used to post on TF. Crapwagon, and even 7th Gear, truly a shameful posting history. 
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Mar 7, 2014 02:45
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Pro-Celeb race field announced. As with most years, I actually know ~3 of them! http://www.marketwired.com/press-release/Grand-Prix-Association-of-Long-Beach-Announces-Drivers-for-2014-Pro-Celebrity-Race-1886340.htm Also Unser Jr and Kyle Petty in the Pro cars. Its been a few years since the Pro's were able to pass the entire celeb field by the end...
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Mar 7, 2014 02:46
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Cygni posted:Please no more F1 chat, it's somehow less relevant in this country than even IndyCar and thats really really saying something. In this country? IndyCar is an international series I'll have you know.
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Mar 7, 2014 02:50
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The only reason why I'd ever want to get famous is to drive the pro-celeb race.
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Mar 7, 2014 02:52
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http://espn.go.com/racing/nascar/cup/story/_/id/10562421/nascar-donnie-allison-stands-best-double Gonna leave this here.
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Mar 7, 2014 06:19
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I completely forgot about crapwagon until that post. Why does that place still exist? Like I can understand being a little annoyed about the split, but to have somehow survived for 6 years after the split end and feeling nostalgic about the last years of ChampCar? That's pretty loving desperate... Hell, at least trackforum had that thread where Arie Luyendyk's race engineer from 1996 explained how they were able to go so fast in qualifying that year...
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Mar 7, 2014 14:03
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IceAgeComing posted:I completely forgot about crapwagon until that post. Why does that place still exist? Like I can understand being a little annoyed about the split, but to have somehow survived for 6 years after the split end and feeling nostalgic about the last years of ChampCar? That's pretty loving desperate... There is going to be like a Crapwagon of ALMS. It has all of the ingredients of bitter fans towards TUSC and a new series not to the best of our liking. That and probably some of them are Crapwagon people as well.
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Mar 7, 2014 14:59
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BMB5150 posted:There is going to be like a Crapwagon of ALMS. It has all of the ingredients of bitter fans towards TUSC and a new series not to the best of our liking. That and probably some of them are Crapwagon people as well.
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Mar 7, 2014 16:04
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Hey, I know what will get people interested in Indy 500 qualifying! Messing with the format again. http://www.indycar.com/News/2014/03/3-7-New-Format-Enhances-Indy-500-Qualifying-Battle quote:• Saturday, May 17 (11 a.m.-5:50 p.m. ET) Bump day is Saturday, Pole day is Sunday. Weird, but despite this it seems like it will make things more interesting. Until it rains!
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Mar 7, 2014 17:11
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FuzzySkinner posted:http://espn.go.com/racing/nascar/cup/story/_/id/10562421/nascar-donnie-allison-stands-best-double Donnie did it better than anyone, if you ignore the fact that he never did both on the same day! Why is this an article? Oh, ESPN.
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Mar 7, 2014 17:18
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VikingSkull posted:Donnie did it better than anyone, if you ignore the fact that he never did both on the same day! do you think his take on super mods is legit? Kind of why I left it here.  .
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Mar 7, 2014 17:22
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A 1970 indycar is probably closer to modern day stockcar than modern day indycar just due to the aero alone.
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Mar 7, 2014 17:40
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WindyMan posted:Hey, I know what will get people interested in Indy 500 qualifying! Messing with the format again. I don't mind the format, honestly. Fastest 33 still make the field. The only thing that I think is kinda meh is making 10-33 requalify and risk shoestring budget equipment a second time. I guess since they are locked in the field, they can just crank downforce in it anyway and take it safe. There will be a lot more cars on the track in meaningful situations on both days than in the past, and thats whats entertaining if youre actually attending. And the Top 9 is more TV soundbite friendly. So yeah, not awful.
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Mar 7, 2014 18:06
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AceFace905 posted:There was a HEAVY overlap between ALMS fans and Champcar fans, so this is practically inevitable. Very true. Serves as good tears to drink from. And speak of the devil already see a fb post about where a hypothetical breakaway sportscar series would go that isn't ISC/NASCAR related.
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Mar 7, 2014 18:53
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New qualifying format is fine with me. It's geared towards gaining TV ratings and isn't nearly as gimmicky as other series NASCAR I really wish I had the money to spend the full 2 weeks between the Indy GP and the 500. At least this year we'll have to have a Goon Meet the weekend of the 500 
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http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily/Issues/2014/03/07/Marketing-and-Sponsorship/Verizon.aspxquote:Verizon is close to finalizing a 10-year, $100M deal to become the title sponsor of the IndyCar Series. Under terms of the deal, Verizon would commit to spend approximately $10M a year in rights, activation and media, sources said. The agreement brings an end to a two-year search to replace Izod, which was the title sponsor from '10-13. The total rights fee is valued at $5M a year. While that represents a significant increase from the roughly $2M a year Verizon was spending as an official sponsor of the IndyCar Series, it is a decrease from the $6M Izod paid. As title sponsor, Verizon’s media and activation commitment would be approximately $5M, which is flat with the $5M Izod reportedly spent. Verizon declined to comment on the title sponsorship, but a spokesperson said, “We’ve worked with IndyCar a long time, and it’s been a great partnership.” Hulman & Co. CEO Mark Miles, whose company owns the IndyCar Series, declined comment. Verizon has been an official sponsor of the IndyCar Series since '10 and a sponsor of Penske Racing’s IndyCar team since '09. When Izod alerted IndyCar officials in '12 that it wanted out of its title sponsorship, the series began pitching presenting sponsorships to existing partners such as Verizon and Firestone. The series, which at the time was led by Randy Bernard, wanted $6M annually in rights and $5M annually in media and activation. But Miles said last year that the price of the sponsorship was less important than the amount of activation a sponsor was willing to commit. JMI consults with Verizon Wireless on its motorsports sponsorships. Wasserman Media Group works with it on its NFL sponsorship.
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Mar 7, 2014 19:31
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So they lose the $2mil from the Verizon sponsorship and its $1mil below the izod sponsorship. Its better than nothing but the 10 year contract is kind of a kick in the nuts.
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KingShibby posted:New qualifying format is fine with me. It's geared towards gaining TV ratings and isn't nearly as gimmicky as other series NASCAR The goon meet has always been the Night Before the 500 at Lucas Oil Raceway, halfway up the turn one hill in front of the camera stand. 
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It's a huge huge boost, to me. Izod's activation has been dogshit. Verizon's activation is already better than Izod's, including running ad's with IndyCars in them on all the major networks, and they don't even have to do that yet. A 10 year deal is also goddamn fantastic because it means 10 years of stability and brand building for the series. No hand-wringing every few years, no WILL INDYCAR SURVIVE??? headlines. Like I said a few months ago in jest, but was partly serious... IndyCar would probably give Verizon the title sponsorship for free if they agreed to push the series on their platforms. Verizon may get the deal for a few mil cheaper than Izod, but their sponsorship is worth 10x more than a JC Penny clothing brand nobody is even aware of, and they have proven that they will push and market the series. And it makes sense for both parties. Huge boost.
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Mark Miles has been quoted multiple times saying that they cared less about money and more about publicity/marketing/etc. Having a company like Verizon sign a 10 year deal is a great thing. Now for the next 10 years nobody has to think about title sponsorship, and this one is an absolute slam dunk for both sides.devmd01 posted:The goon meet has always been the Night Before the 500 at Lucas Oil Raceway, halfway up the turn one hill in front of the camera stand. That's all fine and dandy, but I'm gonna be tent camping for 4 days and there's gotta be more goons to get drunk with.
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sweet i'll swing by and drink with you; this is the last month of may i'll be able to do up proper. I plan to be at the track 4 weekends in a row, to include running around it on the 3rd. 
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FuzzySkinner posted:do you think his take on super mods is legit? Actually I had stopped reading it, haha. First, they are wrong on the horsepower. 490 is way too low, back in Donnie's day they were well over 600hp. They also refer to them in the past tense, like they died off or something. Other than that, yeah, supermods back then did prepare you for Indy more than they would today. Ask Gordon Johncock or Davey Hamilton. In the late 60's and early 70's Indy still ran ovals almost exclusively. It's worth noting that he qualified once at 140mph on a high banked paved half mile, which for the time is insane. A few years ago, the Outlaws set the all time track record here at Middletown, 16.283 @ 144. Flat, dirt, 5/8ths. Shows how far racing has come. e- Some of us watched this in the SASCAR cytube, but for those that didn't, here's a history of supermods. Some period supermod footage. Seizure Meat fucked around with this message at 23:34 on Mar 7, 2014 |
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VikingSkull posted:
When I went to the World Series at Thompson back in October, the fastest driver in the ISMA feature clocked in a fast lap of 143 mph (average). That's insane at a bumpy, 5/8 mile oval, even for today. As far as asphalt short track racing goes, it doesn't get much crazier than Supermods.
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WindyMan posted:Hey, I know what will get people interested in Indy 500 qualifying! Messing with the format again. Ehh, this really isn't a terrible idea, all things considered, though if you're gonna do it, do it. Make Saturday your bump day, and then on Sunday, every qualified car gets a run to get into the pole shootout. I'm not sure that it is gonna change a whole lot, I don't think that the 33rd qualifier on Saturday is suddenly gonna run pole on Sunday, but maybe there are some moves, if that second pole run is a true pole run, and not a combination of pole/get into the race. Or maybe I don't know what I'm talking about, which is entirely possible.
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Uncle Jam posted:So they lose the $2mil from the Verizon sponsorship and its $1mil below the izod sponsorship. Its better than nothing but the 10 year contract is kind of a kick in the nuts. Kick in the nuts, how? A long-term relationship here is a loving good thing. I don't think I ever actually called it "Nextel Cup" once; by the time I stopped calling it "Winston Cup" out of habit, it was now "Sprint Cup". Cygni posted:It's a huge huge boost, to me. Izod's activation has been dogshit. Verizon's activation is already better than Izod's, including running ad's with IndyCars in them on all the major networks, and they don't even have to do that yet. Seriously. IZOD showed up at least in 2010-2011, but it was weird commercials of Marco and TK riding around on jetskis wearing polos? They basically phoned it in in 2012 and did nothing other than cut a check afterwards. And yeah, I'm just not finding any hate for the new qualifying format. Kwik: Closest I can think of would be if a team is fighting something unknown like a broken shock and they barely get it in the show (let's face it, string together four clean laps and you're in) and figures it out overnight. I'd say rain, but they'd waive it off rather than letting you go slow.
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Cygni posted:It's a huge huge boost, to me. Izod's activation has been dogshit. Verizon's activation is already better than Izod's, including running ad's with IndyCars in them on all the major networks, and they don't even have to do that yet. 10 years is a long time, at any time the corporate direction of Verizon could change and start phoning in the activation like Izod did and now your stuck receiving piddly cash for a while. I mean people might complain about : IOwnCalculus posted:I don't think I ever actually called it "Nextel Cup" once; by the time I stopped calling it "Winston Cup" out of habit, it was now "Sprint Cup". But that was also a 10 year deal, just with some corporate savagery in the middle. If you don't think that can happen with Verizon in 10 years then I dunno what to tell you. For next year, yes I agree its fantastic but everything changes so quickly in telecom. 14 years ago Verizon didn't even really exist and the AT&T breakup parts were still coming together. I mean, hell, my Verizon cell 10 years ago only showed numbers on a liquid crystal display, the terribad black and grey ones.
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https://twitter.com/jeff_gluck/status/442150606887596032/photo/1/large https://twitter.com/Reid_Spencer/status/442151593803120640/photo/1/large Owns. Need that diecast.
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To follow on to Fuzzy's post, something weird is now happening at that press conference. Dave Navarro (hes still alive?) came out and started playing a show and then noted E! cohost Mark McGrath came out and starting rapping? What the christ is happening? e:  WEVE GONE PLAID quote:@JennaFryer Randomly, Fred Durst now has the mic for "Sweet Emotion." Ganassi is Harlem Shaking. quote:@JennaFryer No Mas: Vince Neil is singing "Highway to Hell" and Ganassi might be twerking. Cygni fucked around with this message at 07:09 on Mar 8, 2014 |
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Chip. Ganassi. Twerking. Those are three words I never wanted to put together 
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