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Has anyone been watching much of Jimmie Ward? Apparently the Bears were at NIU's Pro day and SS is a massive need.
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DupaDupa posted:Has anyone been watching much of Jimmie Ward? Apparently the Bears were at NIU's Pro day and SS is a massive need. He supposedly looked great. quote:Jimmie Ward runs a 4.47 40, vertical jump 38 inches and measures 5-10.5 and 197 pounds. I don't know if he's big enough to play SS in the NFL though.
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Mar 7, 2014 22:01
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5-10 197 is perfectly acceptable playing weight for either safety position.
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Mar 7, 2014 22:03
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Intruder posted:Manziel sounds like mansierre, destined to bust Henchman of Santa posted:Fitting because he's also a bro. Hahaha. Just quoting these since I was worried the two funniest comments in a 150 page thread are getting lost by being at the bottom of a page.
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Mar 7, 2014 22:48
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Flake Fartles
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Dexo posted:
TJ Ward is 5'11 200lbs and is considered one of best in the box safeties in the NFL. Jimmie Ward's size is fine.
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Mar 7, 2014 22:57
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Troy P is that size no? I'd say his career path wasn't too shabby.
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Mar 7, 2014 23:13
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DupaDupa posted:Has anyone been watching much of Jimmie Ward? Apparently the Bears were at NIU's Pro day and SS is a massive need. He blew up the senior bowl apparently and became a maybe late first rounder. Do they have senior bowl tape?
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Mar 7, 2014 23:43
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PrinceRandom posted:He blew up the senior bowl apparently and became a maybe late first rounder. Do they have senior bowl tape? Slight derail, but did you ever check those links? 
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Mar 8, 2014 00:18
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my lovely cat posted:Flake Fartles please do not post my real name on this public forum
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bhsman posted:Slight derail, but did you ever check those links? I was at work, but I can now that I'm at home. Got it now. That 80% completion against the blitz number is really compelling. PrinceRandom fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Mar 8, 2014 |
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Mar 8, 2014 00:28
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He definitely has the measurables to be on the Bears radar. I think he is a guy they look at in the second if he is there. Just imagine if they grab Byrd and Bennett/Johnson in FA and Ward and Donald in the draft.
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Yeah, no thanks. I'd rather not imagine that. We have more cap room than the Bears, but will do nothing to prevent that situation. Hahaha. It's only fair for the Bears to be stacked on defense though. Do your worst, Chicago.
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sportsgenius86 posted:Ryan Shazier apparently just ran under 4.4 at OSU's pro day OSU's track is a half second fast, but that still puts him at like a 4.42. Dude is gonna get paid from that.
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smuggler posted:Yeah, no thanks. I'd rather not imagine that. It really amazes me how consistently you guys just miss on defense. Then again, you did get Clay Matthews. I honestly feel like you guys have had a fair amount of talented guys on defense, it is just that your coaching is so loving mediocre on that side of the ball, you can't overcome it.
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TheGreyGhost posted:OSU's track is a half second fast, but that still puts him at like a 4.42. Dude is gonna get paid from that. If Dallas misses out on Aaron Donald (they will) and lands Shazier as a consolation, I won't be too upset.
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Sataere posted:It really amazes me how consistently you guys just miss on defense. Packers first 3 rounds draft picks on defense since 2001 (Ron Wolf / Mike Sherman / Ted Thompson): quote:2013: It's honestly kind of amazing how completely inept the Packers are at drafting top picks on defense. Clay Matthews and Nick Collins were more a product of finally getting lucky after so many attempts than they were a signifier of good defensive drafting I think. I'm actually confused how Ted has a reputation for being a good drafter after going over the Packers draft history. He made shrewd value picks with Clay and Aaron (and now I guess Eddie Lacy) but doesn't really hit consistently on other draft picks. 2008 was possibly his best season, bringing in Jordy Nelson, Jermichael Finley, Josh Sitton, and Matt Flynn all in the same draft. He hasn't really been able to repeat that performance since, although the jury is still out on 2012 and 2013 drafts.
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Brannock posted:Packers first 3 rounds draft picks on defense since 2001 (Ron Wolf / Mike Sherman / Ted Thompson): Probably because he acquires tons of picks. I think we've established that everyone kind of hits the same percentage of picks, but if you have enough chances, you'll eventually hit. You are right though. That list is way worse than I thought it was. But if you pulled his offensive list, we'd be singing his praises. Rodgers, Lacy, Cobb, Nelson, Jones, Finley are all top flight offensive weapons and not a lot of teams can say they acquired that many offensive skill positions of that caliber during their tenure. Honestly, I can't think of a single team that has been so consistently good at finding difference-makers at receiver.
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Mar 8, 2014 06:20
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Anyone know how Donte Moncrief looked at his pro day?
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Mar 9, 2014 23:55
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Danny Kelly wrote a really cool, in-depth long form article on NFL scouting with interviews of several GMs. http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/3/6/5473554/2014-nfl-draft-scouting-process-big-board Whats interesting to me is the differences in schools of thought. Newsome trying to isolate his team from groupthink while Baalke, Schneider, and Thompson want consensus.
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Mar 10, 2014 04:35
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I just did that Fanspeak draft program cause I was bored at work. My erection can be seen from space. Even got the elusive young returner the Bengals never land.
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Mar 10, 2014 08:20
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Haha. This thing is super generous. http://fanspeak.com/ontheclock/
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Mar 10, 2014 08:34
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Eifert Posting posted:I just did that Fanspeak draft program cause I was bored at work. I'm shocked that Dri Archer went so low, just based on that ridiculous speed.
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Mar 10, 2014 08:42
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Ravens and Cowboys are going to swap spots as the rounds go on, right? Dallas doesn't select first every round?
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That fanspeak draft is pretty... well generous is one way to put it. Also, Vikes @ 8 - Teddy Lions @10 - Sammy Watkins Bears @14 - Louis Nix  E: linking the image because attachment fail http://imgur.com/SD2z0Q0
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Mar 10, 2014 09:18
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Chichevache posted:All of this makes sense except no one named Blake will ever amount to anything ever.
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Eifert Posting posted:I just did that Fanspeak draft program cause I was bored at work.  Volkerball posted:Haha. This thing is super generous.
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Mar 10, 2014 13:49
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He's pretty clearly a steal in the sixth. I'll be surprised if he survives past the fifth round teens.
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Eifert Posting posted:I just did that Fanspeak draft program cause I was bored at work. loving Boyd as the back-up.
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Mar 10, 2014 14:35
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Archer is a speedbolt that can completely be a RB at the NFL level. He'll drop because of size and injury issues but I think he's a legitimate 3rd round talent.
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Isn't it perfect? Imagine the debate that will happen in the preseason only to be obliterated week one once people see Gio running behind that line with a decent center and Hue calling plays. Alas, actual human beings make the picks in real life, and some aren't even employed by the Browns.
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Eifert Posting posted:Isn't it perfect? No Irish Need Imply fucked around with this message at 14:49 on Mar 10, 2014 |
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Atticus Finch posted:You picked 2 RBs, a bad QB, and a kicker. The Bengals have 4 RBs, 2 backups better than Boyd, and 2 kickers. You could also probably get a decent center later in the draft, especially considering the Bengals love Kyle Cook and he has 1 year left on his dumb contract and Robinson/Pollak are centers. I picked one rb and a kick returner. This makes Ben Tate no longer a thing. Mike Nugent is old and sucks at kickoffs, even though I love him. Tajh Boyd wins a competition with Josh Johnson, are you kidding me? I'm a Gamecocks fan and I'll admit this. They love Cook but he sucks. It's pretty telling that they replace one blech UDFA with another and the replacement is better. Center is by far the weakest position on offense, it's not close.
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Josh Johnson is pretty cool and good though, and Tahj Boyd is fat
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Ben Roethlisberger is in my avatar. He's the fattest QB in the NFL. Josh Johnson can't throw the ball within 10 meters of his target three consecutive times. Boyd has occasionally been described as fat by ACC football standards. I'll take Boyd. You don't want a guy who will start a QB controversy day one. Get a guy with a high ceiling who needs grooming, cause Dalton's starting no matter what in '14.
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Bengals chat rules the school  Eifert Posting posted:I picked one rb and a kick returner. This makes Ben Tate no longer a thing. Mike Nugent is old and sucks at kickoffs, even though I love him. Even if Boyd is an upgrade over Johnson, it's not a big one. Maybe not even a big upgrade over McElroy (but a huge upgrade over Robinson, so points there). I'd rather take Mettenberger or Murray a few rounds earlier (3-4). Cook does suck but you could get a good replacement in later rounds and pick up a good LB/DL for the future, which is probably what they'll do. Alouicious posted:Josh Johnson is pretty cool and good though, and Tahj Boyd is fat
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I did this as someone else but I liked the Texans: In Bortles we trust.  e: Bridgewater went to the Browns.
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Atticus Finch posted:
Is it 2008-2013 already? Just because the team actively ignores a position for half a decade doesn't mean I have to. It's literally the only position of need on the offensive side of the ball.
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Atticus Finch posted:Even if Boyd is an upgrade over Johnson, it's not a big one. Maybe not even a big upgrade over McElroy (but a huge upgrade over Robinson, so points there). I'd rather take Mettenberger or Murray a few rounds earlier (3-4). This. It's become obvious that they should really have a backup plan in case Dalton falters this year, and Boyd would be too much of a project for a team that could be a Super Bowl contender without a schizo QB. computer parts posted:I did this as someone else but I liked the Texans: I fully expect something this absurd during the draft. I mean let's be honest, that's really why we watch it.
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Eifert Posting posted:Is it 2008-2013 already? Just because the team actively ignores a position for half a decade doesn't mean I have to. It's literally the only position of need on the offensive side of the ball. Bengals will need some depth at tackle at some point since Collins is likely leaving, unless you want to have loving Dennis Roland at LT if someone gets hurt.
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