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Monkeytime
Mar 20, 2010
You can't talk about big and schlocky without mentioning the masterpiece of bombast that is Dimmu Borgir's "Progenies of the Great Apocalypse" though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joEAb_y7ZYA

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velvet milkman
Feb 13, 2012

by R. Guyovich
Rhapsody has to be pretty high up there in terms of the schlockiest poo poo imaginable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEMeBTmiX4g

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

Let's talk about where you're going.

Trees and Squids posted:

Rhapsody has to be pretty high up there in terms of the schlockiest poo poo imaginable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEMeBTmiX4g

Don't forget the cringe-worthy Luca Turilli solo stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laB4WSM71VY

H13
Nov 30, 2005

Fun Shoe

Monkeytime posted:

You can't talk about big and schlocky without mentioning the masterpiece of bombast that is Dimmu Borgir's "Progenies of the Great Apocalypse" though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joEAb_y7ZYA

I'll see you that and raise you this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jw7yk8hm_0

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

Let's talk about where you're going.

Who buys Dimmu Borgir albums? Who exactly is their audience?

Defiant Sally
May 6, 2004


Focus your Orochi.

God I forgot how bad this is

kirkjames
Jul 23, 2005

Oldstench posted:

Who buys Dimmu Borgir albums? Who exactly is their audience?

body-modification obsessed mall goths


someone mentioned the new Teitanblood album coming out at some point in this thread, just FYI the preorder is up right now from some euro labels. nuclear war now and other various distros should be getting copies right after.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Dyq0WAPrPI

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

Let's talk about where you're going.

kirkjames posted:

body-modification obsessed mall goths


someone mentioned the new Teitanblood album coming out at some point in this thread, just FYI the preorder is up right now from some euro labels. nuclear war now and other various distros should be getting copies right after.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Dyq0WAPrPI

That was me and it's going to be a monster.

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!

Pomp posted:

What is the biggest, dumbest schlockiest metal?

If it's not Dragonforce for pure self aware schlock and not old school garbage like Manowar, it's probably Italian or German power metal.

Action George
Apr 13, 2013

IRQ posted:

If it's not Dragonforce for pure self aware schlock and not old school garbage like Manowar, it's probably Italian or German power metal.

I think you're sleeping on US power metal which, Dragonforce aside, makes it into the conversation just on the back of The Glorious Burden.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cimVNIexnWc

fatherdog
Feb 16, 2005
Rhapsody has Christopher LEe doing voicovers for their last several albums. Tough to beat for pure bombast.

Flinger
Oct 16, 2012

fatherdog posted:

Rhapsody has Christopher LEe doing voicovers for their last several albums. Tough to beat for pure bombast.
Manowar got him, Orson Welles AND Brian Blessed

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
Bal-Sagoth deserves a mention for cheese as well.

Gaggins
Nov 20, 2007

Henchman of Santa posted:

Bal-Sagoth deserves a mention for cheese as well.

They certainly do:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udHcixCltyo

Vulture Culture
Jul 14, 2003

I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

fatherdog posted:

Rhapsody has Christopher LEe doing voicovers for their last several albums. Tough to beat for pure bombast.
To be fair, Christopher Lee asked them if he could be in the videos.

Dirt
May 26, 2003

So this band Noire, sorta sounds like Orchid/Morningrise era Opeth mixed with hints of Storm of the Light's Bane era Dissection: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTBevwgJnFU


I'm impressed. I always wanted someone make some new music with that same sort of Morningrise vibe.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

Scout Finch Bitch

Dirt posted:

So this band Noire, sorta sounds like Orchid/Morningrise era Opeth mixed with hints of Storm of the Light's Bane era Dissection: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTBevwgJnFU


I'm impressed. I always wanted someone make some new music with that same sort of Morningrise vibe.

TBH I'm getting way more Kalmah than Dissection here. If you like them you'd probably like Miasthenia. There are a lot (and I mean a lot) of bands still going for that style, see also: Divine Symphony, Atra Vetosus.

You should also really look into the Chinese/Mongolian/Non-Japanese Asian black metal scene right now. There are a lot of bands doing cool stuff in a melodic black metal with guitars and folk instruments style right now. Tengger Cavalry is the one that's big in the west right now (because they are loving rad).

El Estrago Bonito fucked around with this message at 01:42 on Mar 9, 2014

Optimum Gulps
Oct 6, 2003

You wanna save this place, right? And I want to destroy it. Brick by hypocritical brick.

El Estrago Bonito posted:

You should also really look into the Chinese/Mongolian/Non-Japanese Asian black metal scene right now. There are a lot of bands doing cool stuff in a melodic black metal with guitars and folk instruments style right now. Tengger Cavalry is the one that's big in the west right now (because they are loving rad).

Tengger Cavalry rules, Chthonic rules, Ego Fall rules (not black metal, more metalcore, but worth listening)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heF_NPJbv8Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eh-yafzptuQ

Optimum Gulps fucked around with this message at 02:44 on Mar 9, 2014

Dirt
May 26, 2003

This is why I love this thread(and the black metal one), I always get a bunch of recommendations every time I post. :D

I will check those bands out.

Also, that Noire album is awesome. I just listened to the whole thing while driving.

Von Sloneker
Jul 6, 2009

as if all this was something more
than another footnote on a postcard from nowhere,
another chapter in the handbook for exercises in futility
http://warpstone.bandcamp.com/album/into-the-phantasmancer-celestial-castle

Warpstone is a French band that sometimes sounds eerily like Spiral Generator/Focusing Blur-era Vintersorg. There's an occasional moment that'll bring to mind Dissection or even Opeth (90s era in both cases), or, in more modern terms, Black Dahlia Murder. Mostly though it's Vintersorg worship. I have no idea, however, why they front loaded the album with the two worst (and least Vintersorgy) songs. Things really pick up with the title track. I get the feeling this is one of those bands with two competing songwriters; their sound is really back and forth.

Also seems they're trying to crowdfund a physical disc.
http://www.kisskissbankbank.com/en/projects/warpstone-new-album-into-the-phantasmancer-celestial-castle

I imagine a good deal of that is going to Paulo Girardi for this wicked thing:


I have no affiliation with this band, I should add. I saw them mentioned somewhere online and now I can't remember where. It'll be funny if it was in this very thread. (I did a forum search, though, and nothing came up.)

Severed
Jul 9, 2001

idspispopd

HJB posted:

I'm a little late on this, but any thoughts on Dream Theater's latest offering? Gave it a couple of spins this week and I feel like I'm missing something. It seems so bland and formulaic to the point where the band couldn't even be bothered to come up with a name for it. Mangini's drumming will take some getting used to as well - it sounds like he's hitting bags of flour. Their previous album grew on me so maybe this will too, but other than the first couple of tracks and the string & piano sections of the closer there doesn't seem like a lot to latch on to.

I don't mind the new album, but the tone of the drums is absolute garbage. Quite possibly one of the worst sounding snares in DT history outside of Change of Seasons.

On an unrelated topic, I just discovered Pagan's Mind and... I think they're amazing. Amazon MP3 had 4 of their albums combined for 8.99, couldn't pass it up. Sadly, I'm so out of the loop on music that stuff like this, that's been around forever, goes completely unnoticed until I stumble across it. What else am I missing out on?

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


Severed posted:

I don't mind the new album, but the tone of the drums is absolute garbage. Quite possibly one of the worst sounding snares in DT history outside of Change of Seasons.

You forgot Images and Words, which was produced by David Prater, the same guy who produced A Change of Seasons. Mike Portnoy claimed Prater liked really terrible drum triggers, and liked to force them on him. Images and Words is an amazing classic album but that balloon popping snare trigger...:suicide:

The production of Images and Words is really lovely in general and it's a shame they didn't put all the songs from that album on Live at the Marquee. Anyone who gives a poo poo about Dream Theater at all should listen to that live album, it's the best six tracks they ever recorded.

E: There are so many things bad about that production. I have the "official bootleg" demos for I&W and in the rehearsal tracks (which admittedly are rough-sounding enough to be worthy of a black metal demo) there are a lot of details you can hear that got buried in the final studio mix. John Myung's bass does a lot of cool poo poo and in "Learning to Live" James does this harmony with the clean guitars in the middle that sounds really neat. You can hear the harmony in the final album if you listen very carefully, but it's all but buried.

E #2: The '91 rehearsal version of "Learning to Live": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d1BdSF1TbA

Woolie Wool fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Mar 9, 2014

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!

Crazy Larry posted:

I think you're sleeping on US power metal which

I have seen very very few good american metal bands, let alone power metal bands. Symphony X and Kamelot being the exceptions when it comes to power metal.

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


IRQ posted:

Symphony X and Kamelot being the exceptions when it comes to power metal.

:newlol: You're kidding right? What USPM bands do you know? Have you heard any of these?

Agent Steel
Armored Saint
Attacker
Brocas Helm
Cauldron Born
Crimson Glory
Destiny's End
Fates Warning
Heir Apparent
Helstar
Jag Panzer
Kingsbane
Lethal
Liege Lord
Manowar's first album
Meanstreak
Metal Church
Omen
Riot
Sanctuary
Savatage
Steel Prophet
Toxik
Vicious Rumors
White Wizzard
Winters Bane

Action George
Apr 13, 2013

IRQ posted:

I have seen very very few good american metal bands, let alone power metal bands. Symphony X and Kamelot being the exceptions when it comes to power metal.

Well, to be fair we weren't necessarily talking about good bands, just cheesy ones.

There's also Pharaoh for good US power metal, who are probably the best power metal band nowadays.

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


White Wizzard is both good and cheesy as all hell.

DeusExMachinima
Sep 2, 2012

:siren:This poster loves police brutality, but only when its against minorities!:siren:

Put this loser on ignore immediately!

Woolie Wool posted:

White Wizzard

No. They make Dragonforce irony look tasteful.

Pomp
Apr 3, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Woolie Wool posted:

:newlol: You're kidding right? What USPM bands do you know? Have you heard any of these?

Agent Steel
Armored Saint
Attacker
Brocas Helm
Cauldron Born
Crimson Glory
Destiny's End
Fates Warning
Heir Apparent
Helstar
Jag Panzer
Kingsbane
Lethal
Liege Lord
Manowar's first album
Meanstreak
Metal Church
Omen
Riot
Sanctuary
Savatage
Steel Prophet
Toxik
Vicious Rumors
White Wizzard
Winters Bane

Does Brocas Helm even have a decent song outside of Cry of the Banshee and Drink the Blood of the Priest? I tried listening to them after Brutal Legend came out, but everything else sounded muddy and/or soulless. In their defense, Cry of the Banshee loving rules.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO2poJAaE_I

WAR OR VENGEANCE, WHAT THE HELL
DEATH IS ALL THE SAME

Pomp fucked around with this message at 05:46 on Mar 9, 2014

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012

Woolie Wool posted:

:newlol: You're kidding right? What USPM bands do you know? Have you heard any of these?

Agent Steel
Armored Saint
Attacker
Brocas Helm
Cauldron Born
Crimson Glory
Destiny's End
Fates Warning
Heir Apparent
Helstar
Jag Panzer
Kingsbane
Lethal
Liege Lord
Manowar's first album
Meanstreak
Metal Church
Omen
Riot
Sanctuary
Savatage
Steel Prophet
Toxik
Vicious Rumors
White Wizzard
Winters Bane

Manilla Road

Gamma Nerd
May 14, 2012
Not mentioning Virgin Steele is pretty shameful

Oh yeah and PHARAOH are amazing.

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


Gamma Nerd posted:

Not mentioning Virgin Steele is pretty shameful

How the hell did I forget them?

DeusExMachinima posted:

No. They make Dragonforce irony look tasteful.

No they are awesome, especially Flying Tigers. "Starman's Son" is in the running for best ballad of the past five years.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

Scout Finch Bitch
I guess 3 Inches of Blood is technically Canadian but I like most of their stuff pre the most recent album which I thought wasn't as good. Premonition of Pain is a loving JAM though.

het
Nov 14, 2002

A dark black past
is my most valued
possession

El Estrago Bonito posted:

I guess 3 Inches of Blood is technically Canadian but I like most of their stuff pre the most recent album which I thought wasn't as good. Premonition of Pain is a loving JAM though.
digging back to their first album: http://www.youtubedoubler.com/?vide...me=BALLS+OF+ICE

Monkeytime
Mar 20, 2010

El Estrago Bonito posted:

I guess 3 Inches of Blood is technically Canadian but I like most of their stuff pre the most recent album which I thought wasn't as good. Premonition of Pain is a loving JAM though.

3 Inches of Blood gets stale after a little while but Wykydtron will always be amazing.

e: my 2 year old just darted into the living room and started dancing to the dulcet tones of Cam Pipes. Jam: verified

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

Pomp posted:

Does Brocas Helm even have a decent song outside of Cry of the Banshee and Drink the Blood of the Priest? I tried listening to them after Brutal Legend came out, but everything else sounded muddy and/or soulless. In their defense, Cry of the Banshee loving rules.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO2poJAaE_I

WAR OR VENGEANCE, WHAT THE HELL
DEATH IS ALL THE SAME

Into Battle is a great album in general but with terrible production. If you can't get into it, try their comeback album Defender of the Crown.

On an unrelated note, any grindcore fans should check out the newest/final album by Gridlink if they haven't yet.

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club




Their first album is my fave - so loving good.

3 of the guys from that line up went on to form a band called Pride Tiger - only 1 album and they branched off - it's pure Thin Lizzy worship BUT AINT NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.... because everything Thin Lizzy owns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYxPdOF6qQw

Optimum Gulps
Oct 6, 2003

You wanna save this place, right? And I want to destroy it. Brick by hypocritical brick.
I've said it before and I'll say it again since it's come up...not completely traditional (strong black metal influence), but the best US power metal band is Satan's Host.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9u3BYIUqUBk

mfny
Aug 17, 2008
Bit late to the party and all but just got done with Showtime Storytime. Tuomas needs to do what ever it takes to keep Floor in the band as she is pretty awesome, also realy realy tall, drat.

Vulture Culture
Jul 14, 2003

I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Optimum Gulps posted:

I've said it before and I'll say it again since it's come up...not completely traditional (strong black metal influence), but the best US power metal band is Satan's Host.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9u3BYIUqUBk
Jag Panzer was pretty incredible for most of its run too. "Frozen in Fear" is probably the best song recorded by a US power metal band ever:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ-kQ16fuMQ

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Nordick
Sep 3, 2011

Yes.

Optimum Gulps posted:

Tengger Cavalry rules
Apparently they released an album last summer that flew under my radar. Just came across it and it loving owns:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZJKyRISchU

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