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Can't believe this hasn't been posted yet: Moon Knight #1. Moon Knight's back in NYC, he's dapper as gently caress, he's huntin' down a serial killer in sewer.    
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"I died before. It was boring, so I stood up" It's such a comic book sentence and I love it.
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Mar 7, 2014 00:09
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It's like Thor walked into a meeting of the People with Awesome Hammers Club and declared himself their king.
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Mar 7, 2014 00:27
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TwoPair posted:Can't believe this hasn't been posted yet: Moon Knight #1. Moon Knight's back in NYC, he's dapper as gently caress, he's huntin' down a serial killer in sewer. this is great to reread and look at the little details "Are you armed?" "Not anymore."
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Mar 7, 2014 02:06
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I've always loved Moon Knight and that was pretty cool, but wouldn't deflecting a bullet by holding a razorsharp crescent dart in your hand mean you lose your fingers? I know, I know, comic books.
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Mar 7, 2014 08:59
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If you're holding razor crescents all the time you probably have some good gloves.
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Mar 7, 2014 14:42
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Onmi posted:
No kidding. Aside from a reference or two in Alpha Flight there's been no mention of any effects with the U.S's relations with other countries over Civil War, the Registration Act (Canada had it passed in 1995, the only physical fight over it was Puck having a bar fight in Halifax. Seriously), or the Initiative. Interesting idea, lousy execution.
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Mar 7, 2014 16:57
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Lars Blitzer posted:the Registration Act (Canada had it passed in 1995) Man, Canada really IS evil in Marvel, isn't it?
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Mar 7, 2014 17:11
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Phy posted:Man, Canada really IS evil in Marvel, isn't it? Actually, no. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Registration_acts_%28comics%29#1993_Canadian_Super-powers_Registration_Act Whoops, I got a couple of the details wrong. 1993 not '95, and there's some debate about whether it's been repealed by Parliament (Brevoort says it must have been at some point, while Oeming's Omega Flight's characters mention the registration act going on for years, without stuff like being hunted down and the "42" super prison.) So I'd imagine it's more like "Sure, you can fire blasts from your hands or control small mammals with your mind, but if you want to actually do something with that power get a license. If you don't we'll write you a ticket, and I'll shake my finger at you very sternly." 
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Mar 7, 2014 17:20
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Lars Blitzer posted:Actually, no. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Registration_acts_%28comics%29#1993_Canadian_Super-powers_Registration_Act As opposed to the American version, where a squad of heavily-armed soldiers assaulted the house Luke Cage was in at midnight the day the registration act went into action. (We are the dumbest country.) prefect fucked around with this message at 17:26 on Mar 7, 2014 |
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Mar 7, 2014 17:22
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prefect posted:As opposed to the American version, where a squad of heavily-armed soldiers assaulted the house Luke Cage was in at midnight the day the registration act went into action. Or when Cap refused to support it, and was attacked for professing his opinion.
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Mar 7, 2014 17:24
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bobkatt013 posted:Or when Cap refused to support it, and was attacked for professing his opinion. I still say that mightygodking's edit of the Captain America/Sally Floyd rant post-surrender is canon. 
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Mar 7, 2014 17:41
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Lars Blitzer posted:I still say that mightygodking's edit of the Captain America/Sally Floyd rant post-surrender is canon. I say mightygodking's edit of the whole storyline is the real canon.
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Mar 7, 2014 17:47
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Yvonmukluk posted:I say mightygodking's edit of the whole storyline is the real canon. Also yes. If you want to know where to get a good burrito, you go to Doctor Strange.
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Mar 7, 2014 17:52
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bobkatt013 posted:Or when Cap refused to support it, and was attacked for professing his opinion. Before it was even law, mind you.
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Mar 8, 2014 08:33
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prefect posted:As opposed to the American version, where a squad of heavily-armed soldiers assaulted the house Luke Cage was in at midnight the day the registration act went into action. But the best for drama.
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Mar 8, 2014 19:38
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prefect posted:As opposed to the American version, where a squad of heavily-armed soldiers assaulted the house Luke Cage was in at midnight the day the registration act went into action. Or how the government called the guys who were supposed to enforce registration "Cape-killer Squads."
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Mar 8, 2014 20:54
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muscles like this? posted:Or how the government called the guys who were supposed to enforce registration "Cape-killer Squads." Which never made sense to me diegetically. Since with the exception of Thor, none of the major super heroes in the Marvel Universe wear capes.
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Mar 8, 2014 21:23
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Skwirl posted:Which never made sense to me diegetically. Since with the exception of Thor, none of the major super heroes in the Marvel Universe wear capes. What about spider man?
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Mar 8, 2014 22:06
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Villains wear lots of capes, though. And if you don't support the Registration, well, how are you different from Doctor Doom? edit: Trick Question. There are none like Doom. JediTalentAgent fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Mar 8, 2014 |
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Mar 8, 2014 22:54
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JediTalentAgent posted:Villains wear lots of capes, though. And if you don't support the Registration, well, how are you different from Doctor Doom? Yeah, but the Registration Act was to specifically target vigilante heroes, since the villains are already covered under existing statutes banning murder and theft.
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Mar 8, 2014 23:16
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The worst thing about that entire stupid plot was that editorial never sat down with the writers and defined what the Act was. So everyone had a different idea and most were bloody terrible. It varied from - "if you have powers and wish to use them to help people you must go through approved training and be registered or you will be arrested" all the way to "If you have powers and don't join our jackbooted stormtroopers we will send people to eat your arm."
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Mar 9, 2014 04:36
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Skwirl posted:Which never made sense to me diegetically. Since with the exception of Thor, none of the major super heroes in the Marvel Universe wear capes. Sentry. Even if the population is mindwiped, they still remember 'cape'.
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Mar 9, 2014 19:00
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Gorilla Salad posted:The worst thing about that entire stupid plot was that editorial never sat down with the writers and defined what the Act was. So everyone had a different idea and most were bloody terrible. They could have even kept the arm eating thing, as a demonstration of the consequences of putting a group of barely restrained psychopaths; led by Norman Osborne of all people; in charge of cape hunting. Hell, maybe that's what they meant to do, but not enough effort was made to differentiate the Thunderbolts' actions from those of normal government authorities.
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Mar 9, 2014 19:25
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I think within the Thunderbolts they made that distinction, it's just that over in Spider-man the government was Turbo Hitler. Civil War was, ironically, not edited enough! Or, more likely, wasn't edited correctly. A consistent tone had to be maintained to make the thing work, and that's the opposite of what we got.
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Mar 9, 2014 23:38
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Moon Knight owns and Declan Shalvey is reeeeally good at expressing motion. From Conan the Barbarian #12:  Gotta love that Dave Stewart too. 
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Mar 10, 2014 17:11
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I want to go back to the Thor vs Iron Man page for a bit. I don't really agree with the interpretations I've read so far and the issue is probably my favorite single issue of a Thor comic (though to be fair I haven't been reading much in the last few years so I have missed a lot of good Thor comics). The posted page doesn't really show it, but Thor wasn't exactly pissed about Civil War. I read his attitude as more like "what you did is stupid but I consider myself above it since it's already over." He was mostly pissed for two reasons. One was because he felt personally betrayed by Tony using his hair to clone Ragnarok. He considered it a desecration of himself and their friendship. Also this was right after Asgard just appeared as a floating island in the midwest and Tony was kind of threatening their sovereignty by implying (or outright stating, I can't remember) that they would have to abide by the registration act as well or SHIELD would be showing up to fight. The pages that explain that aren't super interesting visually, so here's the page where Thor shoots Tony really hard and talks some real good poo poo. 
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Mar 11, 2014 04:48
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JMS liked to write Tony as Hitlerish as possible.
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Mar 11, 2014 04:50
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Let's be fair, a lot of writers liked to write Tony as Hitler-ish as possible.
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Mar 11, 2014 05:03
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I've loved iron man since I was a kid, but good god was civil war a depressing time to be a fan. Every writer just wanted to poo poo all over him.
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Mar 11, 2014 07:35
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Monaghan posted:I've loved iron man since I was a kid, but good god was civil war a depressing time to be a fan. Every writer just wanted to poo poo all over him. The only writers that made him seem human were the Knaufs. I still think its one of the best Iron Man runs.
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Mar 11, 2014 07:38
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Monaghan posted:I've loved iron man since I was a kid, but good god was civil war a depressing time to be a fan. Every writer just wanted to poo poo all over him. We did get to see Susan Storm curb-stomp Taskmaster, though.
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Mar 11, 2014 08:37
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Say Nothing posted:I think Civil Wars was just an excuse by the writers to have heroes fighting each other, like a kid banging his action figures together. It's really satisfying Sue Storm curb stomps someone. Anyone have images?
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Mar 11, 2014 08:43
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Monaghan posted:I've loved iron man since I was a kid, but good god was civil war a depressing time to be a fan. Every writer just wanted to poo poo all over him. Same here. Civil War pretty much cured my Iron Man fandom.
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Mar 11, 2014 12:12
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Say Nothing posted:I think Civil Wars was just an excuse by the writers to have heroes fighting each other, like a kid banging his action figures together. I liked Civil War in the way of "oh hey Marvel's showing us what an insane police state real life USA has become" but it was kinda flat imo. The Embedded tie ins were awesome tho.
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Mar 11, 2014 18:45
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coconono posted:I liked Civil War in the way of "oh hey Marvel's showing us what an insane police state real life USA has become" but it was kinda flat imo. Well it was pretty flaccid at doing that when the end of the story is the horribly wrong side being vindicated despite their cartoonish evil actions. And not even in a depressing way where the public thinks the good guys won but evil prevailed, either, it's straight up Tony Stark being like "Yeah, I was the good guy all along! Just ask my friend, the Hate-Monger!".
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Mar 11, 2014 18:51
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coconono posted:The Embedded tie ins were awesome tho. Wasn't that the series that ended with Cap being proved wrong because he never used myspace?
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Mar 11, 2014 23:16
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Wasn't that the series that ended with Cap being proved wrong because he never used myspace? See: the Mightygodking's aforementioned edit. http://mightygodking.com/2010/06/17/from-the-moldering-portion-of-the-vaults/
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Mar 11, 2014 23:53
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It's funny that my friends who don't read comics often love Civil War. I think when you take character no-one knows the history behind and turn them into broad characters devoid of backhistory you can appeal to a big market.
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Madkal posted:It's funny that my friends who don't read comics often love Civil War. I think when you take character no-one knows the history behind and turn them into broad characters devoid of backhistory you can appeal to a big market. I actually think it reads pretty well as a stand-alone story. The ending still sucks, but it's a good concept, and there are a couple really awesome moments (like the part where Spider-Man turns on Tony). It's just when you consider the context of every other tie-in book, plus present and past comics history, there are so many inconsistensies and weird choices that it becomes harder to justify. I remember really liking it also when I read it before I actually got into comics. Now I'm pretty lukewarm on it, though I don't think it's one of the worst events they've done.
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