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Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

I don't know if this should necessarily go here but it seemed the best fit, I am moving into an apartment, and I want to hook up my computer in my room, to a TV in the living room, ~10 feet through a wall, and be able to send lagless input from a Mouse/Keyboard/360Controller to said computer from the living room. Assume I can drill through a wall if need be but would prefer not to and a budget of 250$.

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Karate Bastard
Jul 31, 2007

Soiled Meat
Thanks thread for your input on powerline data, real helpful :)

saint gerald
Apr 17, 2003
Any good solutions out there for bandwidth monitoring on an EdgeRouter Lite? I don't need fancy per-IP or traffic shaping, just a total up/down count for the month (so I don't hit my cap).

Minidust
Nov 4, 2009

Keep bustin'
My Airport Extreme generally works great, but it has a habit of losing connection every so often. 100% of the time, I can just fix it by turning it off and on again. While I'm glad the fix is so easy, I'm a bit miffed that this happens in the first place while my lovely WRT54G never had such a problem.

What's the deal here? Is it something to do with renewing the lease? I saw some settings for that but never messed with them.

SamDabbers
May 26, 2003



saint gerald posted:

Any good solutions out there for bandwidth monitoring on an EdgeRouter Lite? I don't need fancy per-IP or traffic shaping, just a total up/down count for the month (so I don't hit my cap).

I haven't tried it, but maybe bandwidthd? There's a package for it in the Debian repo.

If you have a separate machine to monitor with, you can use any SNMP monitoring tool like Cacti, MRTG/PRTG, or Munin. You could try running these on the ERL too, but they may chew up the flash.

Binary Badger
Oct 11, 2005

Trolling Link for a decade


Minidust posted:

My Airport Extreme generally works great, but it has a habit of losing connection every so often. 100% of the time, I can just fix it by turning it off and on again. While I'm glad the fix is so easy, I'm a bit miffed that this happens in the first place while my lovely WRT54G never had such a problem.

What's the deal here? Is it something to do with renewing the lease? I saw some settings for that but never messed with them.

Very little to work on here. Does your computer lose the connection with the AEBS or does the AEBS lose connection with the ISP? What kind of computer? What OS? When did you get it? Are you running the latest firmware?

Default for a leased IP from the AEBS is 1 day, you shouldn't need to alter it.

Minidust
Nov 4, 2009

Keep bustin'

Binary Badger posted:

Very little to work on here. Does your computer lose the connection with the AEBS or does the AEBS lose connection with the ISP? What kind of computer? What OS? When did you get it? Are you running the latest firmware?

Default for a leased IP from the AEBS is 1 day, you shouldn't need to alter it.
Well every internet-connected device in the house (both ethernet and wireless) loses connection when that happens, which includes a Windows 7 desktop, PS3/Xbox, Apple TV, iPhone, Win7 laptop, blu-ray player. The regular and guest WiFi networks are no longer visible. If I run the AirPort Utility on iPhone it no longer detects the AEBS. The AEBS itself has the green light on like everything is normal.

I unplug the AEBS and plug it in again, then in 30 seconds or so everything is connected to the internet and the WiFi networks are visible again. Pretty sure the AEBS firmware is up-to-date, as I've updated several times since I bought it a year ago.

greth
Nov 12, 2008

Does it trouble your mind the way you trouble mine?
So I dove through the past 10 or so pages as well as the OP, but I noticed that the OP hasn't been updated since 2012. I'm looking to find the best wireless router, preferably dual band, in the $100-150 range. I'm in an apartment complex so there's a fair bit of noise on the spectrum, but right now I'm not getting anything near my ISP speed over wireless with my router's WiFi (or my Modem's WiFi at that, which is odd). Wired works fine, but isn't an option given the apartment's layout.

I'd prefer something I could put ddwrt/tomato on, but if the router with stock firmware is solid enough then I don't give a poo poo. Any recs (or further questions to give better recommendations)?

Citycop
Apr 11, 2005

Greetings, Rainbow Dash.

I will now sing for you a song that I hope will ease your performance anxiety.

saint gerald posted:

Any good solutions out there for bandwidth monitoring on an EdgeRouter Lite? I don't need fancy per-IP or traffic shaping, just a total up/down count for the month (so I don't hit my cap).

For about $20 you could buy a TP-Link router and install the Gargoyle firmware on it. You could use it to monitor, or you could do quotas and traffic shaping if you want. The traffic will need to run through the router though.

deimos
Nov 30, 2006

Forget it man this bat is whack, it's got poobrain!
Not really a home network question but I am looking for a Cellular (3G/LTE) to Ethernet modem/router that is as stable as possible while not being super expensive (going to do ~50 installs for some low-margin kiosks) $500 and under would be ideal. The kiosks need to be refilled every now and then so we have a driver that could diagnose the routers every two or so weeks so that's honestly as stable as it needs to get, and the kiosks already have a UPS/Line Conditioner.

Any ideas?

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair
Wouldn't thiose need to be provided by your cellular data provider?

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





So I picked up a Ubiquiti EdgeRouter Lite about 2 weeks ago and I'm not super impressed with it. I upgraded to the 1.4 firmware as soon as I opened the box, but I am running into an issue where the router reboots itself. It completely stops responding to ping and when it comes back up the uptime is reset. I looked at the basic logs I could find in the GUI and there's nothing. Has anyone else been having issues or have any ideas on where I should start?

[Edit: Actually, I think it may be overheating. Going to try increasing airflow.]

Internet Explorer fucked around with this message at 06:08 on Mar 6, 2014

deimos
Nov 30, 2006

Forget it man this bat is whack, it's got poobrain!

Inspector_666 posted:

Wouldn't thiose need to be provided by your cellular data provider?

It's a big enough install that we can buy our own hardware and they'll provision it on their network. I was more looking for brands that are known stable, the lovely wifi hotspot they sent us to test is somewhat unstable on a controlled environment.

Main reason for this is that there is exactly one fixed-line ISP here in PR and one Cable company that doesn't offer enough coverage for us. The ISP is charging us more than any of the mobile carriers would charge. (Good luck with Comcast/TW merger USA suckas).

deimos fucked around with this message at 17:00 on Mar 6, 2014

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Binary Badger posted:

Except for QoS, usage charts, and the ability to forward more than a certain amount of ports, an AEBS should be good enough for most purposes.

Airport Utility is also one of the few pieces of software that Apple still makes for Windows, and its got 100% feature parity with the Mac version last time I looked.

I also don't know where else you can get dual radios (2.4 and 5 Ghz simultaneously) along with 3x3 MIMO antennas in a router with a 1 Ghz processor for $85 bucks.

That's super useful when sharing wifi among house mates. I ended up going with this: http://www.dlink.com/us/en/home-solutions/connect/routers/dir-868l-wireless-ac1750-dual-band-gigabit-router

Dual-band, AC support, and gigabit interfaces for Filez transfers. Not sure if it has real-time bandwidht usage or anything, but it would be nice.

Spacedad
Sep 11, 2001

We go play orbital catch around the curvature of the earth, son.
Since I moved into my new place with a new wifi setup, my wireless connection on my desktop has been stuttering noticeably in games like team fortress 2. Since I can't wire it, I would like to find out what my options are for signal boosting or whatever else I should do.

If worst comes to worst, there's a cable outlet in my room so I can probably purchase my own modem or something.

Spacedad fucked around with this message at 01:36 on Mar 7, 2014

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

Spacedad posted:

Since I moved into my new place with a new wifi setup, my wireless connection on my desktop has been stuttering noticeably in games like team fortress 2. Since I can't wire it, I would like to find out what my options are for signal boosting or whatever else I should do.

If worst comes to worst, there's a cable outlet in my room so I can probably purchase my own modem or something.

If you have a coax jack, go with MoCA, which is networking via the coax wiring. It's fast and apparently more reliable than powerline.

Spacedad
Sep 11, 2001

We go play orbital catch around the curvature of the earth, son.
MOCA eh? That sounds like the plan for me.

This is all Greek to me, so I took a photo to ID the jack - I'm pretty sure this is a coax jack:



Also, I hadn't tried the 'data' port yet - I will grab my network cable and see what happens there for the heck of it. Edit: Says it's a "Virtualbox Host-Only Network."

So anyway, what do I need to set this up?

Spacedad fucked around with this message at 15:26 on Mar 7, 2014

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Internet Explorer posted:

So I picked up a Ubiquiti EdgeRouter Lite about 2 weeks ago and I'm not super impressed with it. I upgraded to the 1.4 firmware as soon as I opened the box, but I am running into an issue where the router reboots itself. It completely stops responding to ping and when it comes back up the uptime is reset. I looked at the basic logs I could find in the GUI and there's nothing. Has anyone else been having issues or have any ideas on where I should start?

[Edit: Actually, I think it may be overheating. Going to try increasing airflow.]

So the actual cause of this problem is that the power adapter had somehow come loose... Looks like I am 0 for 2 in this thread. I think I'll stop posting now.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Spacedad posted:

MOCA eh? That sounds like the plan for me.

This is all Greek to me, so I took a photo to ID the jack - I'm pretty sure this is a coax jack:



Also, I hadn't tried the 'data' port yet - I will grab my network cable and see what happens there for the heck of it. Edit: Says it's a "Virtualbox Host-Only Network."

So anyway, what do I need to set this up?

Not to disagree with Inspector as he is probably correct that moca is better, but keep in mind powerline pretty good and darn cheap. You can pretty commonly pick up a basic system in a box for $40.

I'm running one in my house and it's rock solid.

I use a D-LINK DHP-W311AV 500MBPS Wireless extender in my home office and basic powerline-ethernet to my consoles.

I am very happy with them. Get full speed on my DSL no sweat.

Kurt_Cobain
Jul 9, 2001
Anyone have a guess why my laptop can't see my wireless network when I reopen the lid to use it again? This only started recently and the only way I have found to fix it is by unplugging the router so it resets itself and only then can my laptop see the network. It can see other networks, just not my own.

MMD3
May 16, 2006

Montmartre -> Portland
how far is it safe to run network cable alongside power cable before you have to start worrying about interference?

We're mid home remodel and I asked our contractor to wire the house with Cat-6, I just noticed that he ran it alongside power for a ways through the basement. Probably 15ft or so.

Should I be alarmed at all? is it worth asking him to re-pull all of it? The yellow and white cables here are power.

GokieKS
Dec 15, 2012

Mostly Harmless.
It's not recommended since it can induce interference, but depending on the length of the cables and how well constructed they are (and whether the Cat6 cables are shielded), it may not actually cause any issues.

But if you're at the point where you can still change the way it's being run easily, you might as well do so.

GokieKS fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Mar 8, 2014

Spacedad
Sep 11, 2001

We go play orbital catch around the curvature of the earth, son.

slidebite posted:

Not to disagree with Inspector as he is probably correct that moca is better, but keep in mind powerline pretty good and darn cheap. You can pretty commonly pick up a basic system in a box for $40.

I'm running one in my house and it's rock solid.

I use a D-LINK DHP-W311AV 500MBPS Wireless extender in my home office and basic powerline-ethernet to my consoles.

I am very happy with them. Get full speed on my DSL no sweat.

That's cool and all, but I have no idea how MOCA works or how I set it up. Please help. :psyduck:

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Spacedad posted:

That's cool and all, but I have no idea how MOCA works or how I set it up. Please help. :psyduck:
Neither do I buddy, but googling "MoCa starter kit" seems to produce results.

http://www.amazon.ca/ChannelMaster-...1&keywords=MoCa

http://www.amazon.com/D-Link-DXN-221-MoCa-Ethernet-Adapter/dp/B0024FAQL2

http://www.amazon.com/Actiontec-Eth...ywords=MoCa+kit

Just pointing out above that in my completely anecdotal experience, power-line kits are inexpensive and work wonderfully. Not sure it's worth the premium going to MoCa but :shrug:

SamDabbers
May 26, 2003



Spacedad posted:

That's cool and all, but I have no idea how MOCA works or how I set it up. Please help. :psyduck:

I'll agree with slidebite's suggestion to try the powerline solution first. It's less expensive and easier to install, and if it doesn't work well enough for you (it should) then shell out for MOCA.

MOCA bridges are like cable modems for inside your home. They use a channel outside the range of those used by cable companies (but may interfere with satellite service), so they can coexist on the same cable with your TVs, set-top boxes, and cable modems. Properly installed coaxial cable can carry signals for very long distances, which you don't want if the signal is your LAN traffic, so you should install a point-of-entry filter (included in some kits, also available separately) when you set up your MOCA bridges. The filter prevents the MOCA signal from leaving your house, and reflects the signal back towards your MOCA bridges so you'll get better performance from them.

SamDabbers fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Mar 9, 2014

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair
This thread should probably be remade with up-to-date powerline/coax networking stuff in the OP since we seem to go over it every couple of pages.

Ninja Rope
Oct 22, 2005

Wee.

MMD3 posted:

Should I be alarmed at all? is it worth asking him to re-pull all of it? The yellow and white cables here are power.



So rather than run the cable through big staples in the bottom of each beam, the contractor drills a lovely hole through each beam and runs the cables through that? Is there a reason he did it that way?

Unexpected
Jan 5, 2010

You're gonna need
a bigger boat.
Hi. I'm looking for a new router but the OP hasn't been updated since Nov 2012 and I'm wondering if the AirPort Extreme is still considered a good/great choice. What about Asus RT-AC68U?

FYI, my current network consists of a desktop, three laptops, PlayStation, DVD player and I think 5 phones/tablets/etc.

Thanks.


Edit - also have a question. Should a cheaper router like this:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A3YN0Z0/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Be able to allow me to stream 1080p over wi-fi? E.g. from YouTube or media server?

Unexpected fucked around with this message at 01:40 on Mar 10, 2014

crm
Oct 24, 2004

So, putting together the equipment for my new house, and am leaning towards a 3 pack of Ubiquiti APs (the ac models if I can convince my wife) and an EdgeRouter lite.

I do need a good switch - 24 port. Any recommendations?

Also, all this stuff will be tucked away with a couple non-rack mount servers. Is there a good way to get all this equipment organized or mounted to a wall short of going out and buying a cabinet?

Gism0
Mar 20, 2003

huuuh?

crm posted:

So, putting together the equipment for my new house, and am leaning towards a 3 pack of Ubiquiti APs (the ac models if I can convince my wife) and an EdgeRouter lite.

I do need a good switch - 24 port. Any recommendations?


I've no 24 port switch recommendations but the Ubiquiti Toughswitch PoE would be a great way to power your 3 APs. Either that or swap the EdgeRouter Lite for an EdgeRouter PoE!

You can get wall-mount cabinets but a simple shelf would probably do the trick. Wall mounted patch panels are cheap and would help keep things tidy!

Gism0 fucked around with this message at 03:15 on Mar 10, 2014

Citycop
Apr 11, 2005

Greetings, Rainbow Dash.

I will now sing for you a song that I hope will ease your performance anxiety.

Unexpected posted:

Hi. I'm looking for a new router but the OP hasn't been updated since Nov 2012 and I'm wondering if the AirPort Extreme is still considered a good/great choice. What about Asus RT-AC68U?

FYI, my current network consists of a desktop, three laptops, PlayStation, DVD player and I think 5 phones/tablets/etc.

Thanks.


Edit - also have a question. Should a cheaper router like this:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A3YN0Z0/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Be able to allow me to stream 1080p over wi-fi? E.g. from YouTube or media server?

I have an "N" speed wireless network and I can stream 1080p content compressed with DIVX to my Boxee but it's at the very maximum of what it can do. It will buffer occasionally and if anything else uses bandwidth or if the stars are not in alignment, your going to have a hard time with it. I ran Cat6 when I built my house so I do not have to mess with it anymore.

My experience my be completely different from yours, you may have more problems or no problems. Just chiming in with my experience.

You could get the fastest router on the planet but if your laptop or streaming device does not connect to it in the right way (or someone is running a hair dryer or R/C car) then it's all for naught.

Citycop fucked around with this message at 04:42 on Mar 10, 2014

Unexpected
Jan 5, 2010

You're gonna need
a bigger boat.
Thanks, Citycop. I can usually stream 1080p over wifi in the room where the router is located but it often buffers farther away. It has also recently started to randomly drop internet, hence my search for a replacement.

Asus RT-AC68U appears to have slightly better reviews than Apple Airport Extreme but if someone has experience with both - your insight would be appreciated. I need my porn on all laptops.

Unexpected fucked around with this message at 04:54 on Mar 10, 2014

e.pilot
Nov 20, 2011

sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit

crm posted:

So, putting together the equipment for my new house, and am leaning towards a 3 pack of Ubiquiti APs (the ac models if I can convince my wife) and an EdgeRouter lite.

I do need a good switch - 24 port. Any recommendations?

Also, all this stuff will be tucked away with a couple non-rack mount servers. Is there a good way to get all this equipment organized or mounted to a wall short of going out and buying a cabinet?

See if you can find a Linksys/Cisco SRW2024 on eBay. They're discontinued but if you can find one they are a great value for a managed gig switch. I got the SRW2008 8 port version for a song.

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

crm posted:

So, putting together the equipment for my new house, and am leaning towards a 3 pack of Ubiquiti APs (the ac models if I can convince my wife) and an EdgeRouter lite.

I do need a good switch - 24 port. Any recommendations?

Also, all this stuff will be tucked away with a couple non-rack mount servers. Is there a good way to get all this equipment organized or mounted to a wall short of going out and buying a cabinet?

A switch is a switch these days, there really isn't much difference in the unmanaged world.

SamDabbers
May 26, 2003



crm posted:

So, putting together the equipment for my new house, and am leaning towards a 3 pack of Ubiquiti APs (the ac models if I can convince my wife) and an EdgeRouter lite.

Good call, they make great equipment. Seconding the recommendation to use an EdgeRouter PoE to power the APs.

crm posted:

I do need a good switch - 24 port. Any recommendations?

I like the HP v1910-24G for this. It's web managed and is "layer 2+" which means it can do static IPv4/IPv6 inter-VLAN routing in addition to the usual VLANs, QoS, SNMP, etc. There's also a secret command to unlock the full CLI management interface, basically turning your $250 switch into a $1000 model. HP/H3C uses the same hardware for both models and just software locks the features at the factory.

crm posted:

Also, all this stuff will be tucked away with a couple non-rack mount servers. Is there a good way to get all this equipment organized or mounted to a wall short of going out and buying a cabinet?

How about something like this? Here's my setup using it:

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Red
Apr 15, 2003

Yeah, great at getting us into Wawa.
So my wireless signal is really weak in the bedroom, which is around the corner from our wireless router, and there are two walls (with a kitchen) between the router and the bedroom.

My initial thought is to buy http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-WR702N-Wireless-Repeater-150Mpbs/dp/B007PTCFFW/, and put that in a place that sends a clear signal into the bedroom.

spoof
Jul 8, 2004
What do folks with high-bandwidth (100Mbit+) connections use as routers? The chart at smallnetbuilder makes it seem like most modern routers can handle at least a few hundred megabits. I sort of expected the Edgerouter to do better. Any reason not to get a RT-56U or -66U for a 200-400Mbit connection?

SamDabbers
May 26, 2003



spoof posted:

What do folks with high-bandwidth (100Mbit+) connections use as routers? The chart at smallnetbuilder makes it seem like most modern routers can handle at least a few hundred megabits. I sort of expected the Edgerouter to do better. Any reason not to get a RT-56U or -66U for a 200-400Mbit connection?

Keep in mind that the smallnetbuilder ERL benchmark was run on firmware 1.0.2, which was the initial release in November 2012. The firmware has come a long way since then, and they've done a lot of work on the hardware offload feature in particular. It can easily push line-speed 1Gbps with offload enabled, and a few hundred Mbps without offload depending on what features you're using. NAT and regular stateful firewall rules work fine with offload. Some features like QoS, packet mangling (firewall modify rules), or Netflow force-disable the offload function for all traffic, and tunnel interfaces like PPPoE or GRE currently have to be handled by the CPU but otherwise leave offload enabled for other traffic.

The EdgeRouter is definitely geared toward people who like tinkering with routers and understand a bit about networking. That said, there is a good reason to avoid ASUS routers for your network firewall, but they should be fine when used as an AP behind another router.

JHVH-1
Jun 28, 2002
I have an RT-N56U that I have loved since I got it. I have no problem getting the full 100mbps+ down from my optimum connection via wireless, but I don't really stress it much more than that, but my macbook claims I am connected at 450Mbps transmit rate via the 5Ghz N channel. The newer models are probably even better.

I was running the custom firmware for a while, but asus upgraded it not too long ago to what they call ASUSWRT and I tossed that on there. I think ASUS have some of the best OEM released firmware at this point. but there is also a modified version for some models called asuswrt-merlin http://www.lostrealm.ca/tower/node/79

So I think that the AC56U is probably a good choice.

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b0nes
Sep 11, 2001
So my neighbor across the street and I have decided to share her internet connection. She has one of those mini Airport routers that really doesn't work reliably because the plug holding it isn't that good. What options do I look at? I can see her connection if I place my laptop right at the kitchen table. What is better to have: A bigger antenna on my end as the receiver or o her end as the transmitter?

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