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quote:- axiom of inherent uncertainty (nothing u know is ever truely real or knowable!) [i made this one] So what propositions/results can you derive from your cool new axiom when coupled with your other axioms? That the other axioms are just, like, unknowable man? Doesn't it imply that your system is inherently contradictory? For instance, it implies that the axiom of choice may not hold in your system. You could derive the same implication about the uncertainty axiom itself. Where does that leave you?
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John DiFool posted:So what propositions/results can you derive from your cool new axiom when coupled with your other axioms? That the other axioms are just, like, unknowable man? it leaves him ripping a huge bong hit and then farting into the couch
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Mar 11, 2014 16:08
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John DiFool posted:So what propositions/results can you derive from your cool new axiom when coupled with your other axioms? That the other axioms are just, like, unknowable man? dont enable her
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Mar 11, 2014 16:16
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congratulations, you've invented a crappy version of a sierpinski triangle
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Mar 11, 2014 17:36
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congratulations, you've invented a crappy version of a sierpinski triangle
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Mar 11, 2014 17:37
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Sagebrush posted:congratulations, you've invented a crappy version of a sierpinski triangle
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Mar 11, 2014 17:40
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John DiFool posted:So what propositions/results can you derive from your cool new axiom when coupled with your other axioms? That the other axioms are just, like, unknowable man? uncertainty is inherently recursive, and represented by (-i)^4, it's a quaternion if you're using the correct math. the inherent contradiction IS there, and that, again, is implied by the inherent uncertainty: you can't exhaustively prove it, nor can you inductively prove it... but it is. something to do with godel's incompleteness and completeness theorem's idk go wikipedia them fun video of those previous graphs: (gently caress screencaps, im 2 busy to install poo poo) https://vimeo.com/88778661 https://vimeo.com/88778685 remind u of anything???? beginning from absolutely nothing, and ending in something chaotic? happened a v long time ago? also note the chaotic strucutres. this theory is utterly insane, it is a GUT theory i guess. but i've got top to bottom basic down now and gonna start crunching actual numbers, starting with physics of the hydrogen atom. and seeing if it works (after all, thats the only way to see if ur insightful or just an idiot) also playing around with recursive formulae to try and replicate atomic spectra/orbitals 
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Mar 11, 2014 17:50
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that is certainly a work of aut e: no seriously though the work that must've gone into that 
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Mar 11, 2014 18:10
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Sweevo posted:i see the eagle auto-router hasn't improved i'm a strong black woman who don't need no autorouter. seriously, i laid out the traces by hand. where'd i gently caress them up?
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Mar 11, 2014 18:12
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the only actual offensive thing i see is the acute angle on the bottom right of the board between the large copper plane and that trace coming off of it. acute angles are the devils work. post the other side or the full layout docs
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Mar 11, 2014 18:19
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Bloody posted:post the other side  Werthog 95 posted:this is very pretty, what'd you use to lay it out cadsoft eagle
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Mar 11, 2014 20:29
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looks pretty inoffensive too bad about eagle tho
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Mar 11, 2014 20:53
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what's wrong with eagle?
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Mar 11, 2014 21:00
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everything involving usability primarily
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Mar 11, 2014 22:07
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Doc Block posted:
top left looks a little sketchy imo
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Mar 11, 2014 22:08
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Yeah, just didn't want to have a sharp angle. It's only going to an LED, though, so I guess it wouldn't really matter.  Anyway, soldered it all up and it works really well. The fan has a little bit more oomph now    Tried to leave a bunch of space around the voltage regulator since I didn't know exactly how big the heatsink was gonna be. Turns out I guessed pretty accurately. The voltage regulator & heatsink get hot, but not so hot you can't grab them and hold on. The MOSFET gets somewhat warm, but not enough to need a heatsink. The diode gets kinda warm. I wonder if the voltage regulator is just getting overworked. Its output filtering capacitor is 10uF; I wanted to put a 50uF on there to account for the big draw from the motor, but didn't have any on hand and forgot to order some. Doc Block fucked around with this message at 09:52 on Mar 12, 2014 |
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Mar 12, 2014 09:49
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Doc Block posted:Yeah, just didn't want to have a sharp angle. It's only going to an LED, though, so I guess it wouldn't really matter. show us the underside so we can judge your soldering job
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Mar 12, 2014 10:17
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It's already in the case, or I would. edit: poo poo, just realized I didn't clean the flux off the board. I'll clean the flux off tomorrow and post a pic.
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Mar 12, 2014 10:22
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leave him alone you bullies
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Mar 12, 2014 12:01
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i mean docblock not the other guy
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Mar 12, 2014 12:03
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I want to make my own 8 bit mini. I went on a binge and bought a 6502 knock off. I also bought 32kb of ram, and 16kb of rom that should be bus compatible. I have something I think will work for a keyboard controller. What I don't know how to do is provide video out. I've thought about just doing a serial interface at first, but I'd rather just start with video out. I can't find anything that will really work. Monochrome is fine. Anyone have any suggestions?
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Mar 12, 2014 13:39
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stick to serial for now. there aren't really any simple ways to do video. it would be great if there was a single chip solution that looked like a ram chip to the cpu so you could just wire it up and anything you wrote to it appeared on the screen, but there's isn't one that i know of. all you can get are either crt controller chips that require their own ram, an external DAC, and 20 ttl glue logic chips, or 90s-era vga/svga chips which are designed to work from an intel style bus and all come in annoying surface-mount packages and are hard to get hold of in single quantities. for a basic system i'd go for the z80 over the 6502 as well. the 6502 is a scrub tier processor with weird bus timing that makes using peripheral chips awkward. whereas a z80 will literally work with anything. z80-compatible peripheral chips are far more common, and cheaper too.
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Mar 12, 2014 13:57
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i've never done an actual pre-laid out PCB, now i want to. eagle frustrates me every time i try and i end up just trying to draw all these tiny lines and the traces wont work and ARGH
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Mar 12, 2014 14:20
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Wintering Stinkbug posted:I want to make my own 8 bit mini. I went on a binge and bought a 6502 knock off. I also bought 32kb of ram, and 16kb of rom that should be bus compatible. I have something I think will work for a keyboard controller. What I don't know how to do is provide video out. I've thought about just doing a serial interface at first, but I'd rather just start with video out. I can't find anything that will really work. Monochrome is fine. Anyone have any suggestions?
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Mar 12, 2014 14:25
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minicomputer. he wants to reinvent the apple ii like it's the 70s. sounds like a fun if ultimately futile project
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Mar 12, 2014 14:26
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i mean, you can just walk into any best buy and just buy a computer, dude. they're right there.
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Mar 12, 2014 14:26
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Oh. Minicomputer, like a PDP-8? Those didn't use 6502s and were 12-bit anyway.
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Mar 12, 2014 14:27
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Werthog 95 posted:minicomputer. he wants to reinvent the apple ii like it's the 70s. sounds like a fun if ultimately futile project gahh that's a microcomputer. also what Tori said.
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Mar 12, 2014 14:29
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It owns that millions of people who think they're really smart misuse the phrase "8-bit" every day.
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Mar 12, 2014 14:30
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*puts on KNOW YOUR ROOTS NES t-shirt* *was born in 1993*
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Mar 12, 2014 14:31
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Citizen Tayne posted:Oh. Minicomputer, like a PDP-8? Those didn't use 6502s and were 12-bit anyway. Dr. Honked posted:gahh that's a microcomputer. also what Tori said. i'm young, ignorant, and proud of it.
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Mar 12, 2014 14:35
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Ignorance owns. I love not knowing what things are. Tone in and drop out.
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Mar 12, 2014 14:36
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Werthog 95 posted:ultimately futile project this should really have been in the thread title for clarity
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Mar 12, 2014 14:37
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I'm curious how much Wintering Stinkbug paid for his $1.26 in obsolete silicon.
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Mar 12, 2014 14:38
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Jonny 290 posted:i've never done an actual pre-laid out PCB, now i want to. eagle frustrates me every time i try and i end up just trying to draw all these tiny lines and the traces wont work and ARGH http://www.diptrace.com/ install diptrace.
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Mar 12, 2014 14:49
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Citizen Tayne posted:I'm curious how much Wintering Stinkbug paid for his $1.26 in obsolete silicon. Shipping and handling was more expensive than the parts. $10 for all the chips together. I think the processor was $6. I had everything else I need. Guess it wouldn't be that big of an investment to purchase a z80.
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Mar 12, 2014 14:55
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new idiot project: Emmett costume from LEGO movie for local nerdcon. 
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Mar 12, 2014 14:57
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Bloody posted:http://www.diptrace.com/ install diptrace. this is superior to eagle usability-wise?
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Bloody posted:http://www.diptrace.com/ install diptrace. tight! thx
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Wintering Stinkbug posted:Shipping and handling was more expensive than the parts. $10 for all the chips together. I think the processor was $6. I had everything else I need. did you take a look at the manuals and circuit diagrams for ye olde microcpmputers? you might find them interesting, such as this one: http://archive.6502.org/microcomputers/compukit-uk101/compukit_uk101_manual-dr-aa-berk.pdf it has a VDU interface n poo poo that's a  version of a  micro called the ohio scientific superboard
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