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Sea Otter posted:I asked about this before but how would "clever" dialogue options for low INT characters appear? Just out of curiosity or guess I lack the ability to imagine such dialogue.
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rope kid posted:A lot of Clever options aren't particularly smart, including low-hanging fruit like easy sarcasm So, basically clever is the goony equivalent, gotcha.
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Mar 12, 2014 19:05
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rope kid posted:A lot of Clever options aren't particularly smart, including low-hanging fruit like easy sarcasm. They still contribute to your rep as someone who sasses off even if it's not particularly brilliant in the moment. The people who react to the rep itself will be of two types a) a-ha, hey it's that hilarious guy! b) oh look it's that smart-rear end who thinks he's the king of comedy. So it's more clever-as-in-wiseacre and less clever-as-in-utahraptor.
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Mar 12, 2014 19:08
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Mozi posted:Kind of like what they just did in South Park? Did they? Hate the show, knew I'd never play the game. 
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Mar 12, 2014 19:50
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GetWellGamers posted:Did they? Hate the show, knew I'd never play the game. Yeah, the player character doesn't talk, and they joke about it pretty frequently in the game. It's actually pretty solid if you like Paper Mario but didn't think there were enough fart jokes, but it's pretty easy as well.
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Mar 12, 2014 19:58
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Stick of Truth is awesome and I hope they get Obsidian to make more South Park games.
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Mar 12, 2014 20:08
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ElrondHubbard posted:Sterling Archer is more or less the antithesis of diplomacy I would love to have Sterling Archer -like conversation options sprinkled throughout the game.
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Mar 12, 2014 20:54
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rope kid posted:A lot of Clever options aren't particularly smart, including low-hanging fruit like easy sarcasm. They still contribute to your rep as someone who sasses off even if it's not particularly brilliant in the moment. The people who react to the rep itself will be of two types a) a-ha, hey it's that hilarious guy! b) oh look it's that smart-rear end who thinks he's the king of comedy. Do they get as inappropriate as the ones in dragon age 2? The sarcastic remarks were so off the wall that it was literally the best part about that game.
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Mar 12, 2014 20:57
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DancingShade posted:I would love to have Sterling Archer -like conversation options sprinkled throughout the game. *directs u towards Alpha Protocol*
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Mar 12, 2014 20:58
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I'm pretty sure there were no "Hold on, I had something for this..." lines in Alpha Protocol. Or claims to have invented the tactical turtleneck.
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Mar 12, 2014 21:41
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pun pundit posted:I'm pretty sure there were no "Hold on, I had something for this..." lines in Alpha Protocol. Or claims to have invented the tactical turtleneck. Steven Heck is Archer's spirit-brother.
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Mar 12, 2014 21:45
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rope kid posted:They're relative levels of reputation increase: Minor, Average, and Major. Major is pretty rare and is for severe things like 
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Mar 12, 2014 22:11
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Otto Skorzeny posted:So it's more clever-as-in-wiseacre and less clever-as-in-utahraptor. 
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Mar 12, 2014 22:15
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Mar 12, 2014 23:19
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Is that giant-size-bullet-lookin' thing at the top some clever packaging of some crazy wargame, or just a novelty item?
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Mar 12, 2014 23:21
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Must some kind of bombshell, my gramps have an empty one from WW1 and it sort of looks like that.
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Mar 12, 2014 23:25
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GetWellGamers posted:Is that giant-size-bullet-lookin' thing at the top some clever packaging of some crazy wargame, or just a novelty item? I'm not going to take the low hanging fruit and say it's your mom's vibrator, but I had a lunchbox back in the day that was very similar. In actuality, and according to the context clues of the purpose of that shelf, it looks like it's a card game package. http://www.herebebooks.com/onlinestore/product.php?id_product=135
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Mar 12, 2014 23:28
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GetWellGamers posted:Is that giant-size-bullet-lookin' thing at the top some clever packaging of some crazy wargame, or just a novelty item? Looks like the complete BANG! game to me. Oh wait, oh God oh n-
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rope kid posted:The 10th is Rational, sort of a counterpart to Passionate. Sweet! My wizard is probably going to end up absolutely insufferable.
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Mar 12, 2014 23:32
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rope kid posted:A lot of Clever options aren't particularly smart, including low-hanging fruit like easy sarcasm. They still contribute to your rep as someone who sasses off even if it's not particularly brilliant in the moment. The people who react to the rep itself will be of two types a) a-ha, hey it's that hilarious guy! b) oh look it's that smart-rear end who thinks he's the king of comedy. Sleep of Bronze posted:Stoic is the counterpart to Epicurian. Sylphosaurus posted:Ok rope kid, no more raiding David Gaider's dev docs, okay? Sea Otter fucked around with this message at 05:20 on Mar 13, 2014 |
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Mar 13, 2014 05:15
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Sea Otter posted:Thank you for the reply. Yeah, you kindly explained it before but, simply, I guess it was hard for me to separate the capability nuance from the word clever. To my ears, "sarcastic" or "cynical" would sound be more suitable since they are more of personality/attitude rather than ability
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Mar 13, 2014 05:41
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"Nah it's cool, I totally don't want a reward for risking my life and the lives of my companions saving your backwater shithole from those cave bandits." "Really? Thanks!" "...gently caress."
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Mar 13, 2014 08:46
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Does this mean I win?
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Sea Otter posted:Thank you for the reply. Yeah, you kindly explained it before but, simply, I guess it was hard for me to separate the capability nuance from the word clever. To my ears, "sarcastic" or "cynical" would sound be more suitable since they are more of personality/attitude rather than ability but, here, I guess I'm wandering into the tricky maze of "wording" again. :P Those phrasings would imply your character is actually funny and self-aware, I like the connotation of 'clever' being an insufferable smart-arse who pisses everyone off with inopportune jokes (i.e. the only good thing in DA2).
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Mar 13, 2014 11:40
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So basically Suave Thornton from Alpha Protocol? I think maybe 5% of his lines actually got a positive response in that game.
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Mar 13, 2014 12:15
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redweird posted:So basically Suave Thornton from Alpha Protocol? I think maybe 5% of his lines actually got a positive response in that game. More like 20-25%: Mina and Scarlett varied on whether she liked it or disliked it, Surkov likes a suave guy, Madison reacts positively to suave & professional, Heck likes agressive and suave (depending on situation), the retired russian informant (forgot his name) you meet in a bar likes suave most of all, ... Plenty of people like suave. You want to piss people off in that game you go agressive. Other than Heck & Sie, nobody likes an agressive Thornton.
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Mar 13, 2014 12:31
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quote:You want to piss people off in that game you go aggressive. Unless you want to be able to kill Marburg.
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Really part of what made the game fun was figuring out what buttered up / pissed off specific NPCs and acting according to your whims thereafter.
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Basic Chunnel posted:Really part of what made the game fun was figuring out what buttered up / pissed off specific NPCs and acting according to your whims thereafter. It's arguably the whole point of Alpha Protocol: Thornton is a master manipulator.
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It's Thorton. Yeah, when I saw that in the game I thought it must have been a typo but they noticed it after they had recorded like half the VO and just said, gently caress it, we'll just go with it
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double nine posted:More like 20-25%: Mina and Scarlett varied on whether she liked it or disliked it If you're friends with Mina, she'd respond much better to Suave responses. It's one of those cool little things about AP, how everyone doesn't have a one-track personality.
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CommissarMega posted:If you're friends with Mina, she'd respond much better to Suave responses. It's one of those cool little things about AP, how everyone doesn't have a one-track personality. I may be totally misremembering this, but I feel like the Suave responses when you were friends with Mina were way less creepy weird than the Suave responses when you weren't friends with her? Though on the other hand, the Suave email responses to every woman in the game were hilariously terrible.
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El Pollo Blanco posted:I may be totally misremembering this, but I feel like the Suave responses when you were friends with Mina were way less creepy weird than the Suave responses when you weren't friends with her? Though on the other hand, the Suave email responses to every woman in the game were hilariously terrible. What I remember is that Mina would just brush away Mike's comments about the attractiveness of a woman if his reputation with her was very high, whereas you would lose points if your standing with her was just average.
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Hey, sorry for the off topic talk, but is it recommended to skip directly to Mask of the Betrayer for NWN2? I played the main campaign up until around half of act II, and it doesn't seem to pick up (just got the crossroads keep).I'm not a big fan of the combat, so if there are ways to make it go away faster, that'd be great. VVVVV: Thanks, I think I'll do that, it's all a bit too generic DnD for me (I liked the trial though). Kurtofan fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Mar 15, 2014 |
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Mar 15, 2014 23:27
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Mask is significantly better and you don't really need to go through the OC to enjoy it. So if you're not having fun with the OC, it's totally okay to skip it.
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I've never thought starting off with MotB was a good idea, if you jump right in then the combat is off-the-wall crazy for beginners, but if you're already halfway through Act 2 OC and still not feeling it then skipping to MotB should be fine. It's suppose to be the same character but the stories are unrelated.
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Mask is good but the UI is not particularly suited for epic-level play, especially as a caster. It's just a bad UI in general. If you've gotten to Crossroads Keep you might as well keep going, you've cleared the slog part of the game and it gets good from there.
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What does epic level play mean? It's just that the story and the characters don't really do anything for me, and I heard MOTB is way better on those points. Also, I don't really want to manage the Keep 
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NWN2 was mostly fun except for the ending and one of the voices. It was a little all over the place though...
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