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Gyshall
Feb 24, 2009

Had a couple of drinks.
Saw a couple of things.
Can't we all just play video games and get along?

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SpookyLizard
Feb 17, 2009

Ddraig posted:

I also noticed another little detail (god this game is full of them)

When you get to Novac and meet Victor, if you ask him about Novac he says "It's nice enough, but I get this feeling that makes my skin crawl. Watch yourself."

I'm guessing that's a subtle attempt from House to get you to move on.

I assumed it was about jeanie may and some of the other poo poo that does down.

double nine
Aug 8, 2013

SpookyLizard posted:

I assumed it was about jeanie may and some of the other poo poo that does down.

I don't recall any other Novac quest/background situation that that line might be referring to? You've got the invisible supermutant, Boone's quest and the Come fly with me quest - which arguably isn't even a Novac quest. What other poo poo would you be referring to?

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house

SpookyLizard posted:

I assumed it was about jeanie may and some of the other poo poo that does down.

The thing is, House/Victor would probably not know about any of that.

As far as they're concerned, it's a rather nice little village close to vegas but not close enough.

Caufman
May 7, 2007

Gyshall posted:

Can't we all just play video games and get along?

It's really been one or the other for at least the last 15, 18 years.

Ravenfood
Nov 4, 2011

Ddraig posted:

I think the only concession is when he mentions a courier who's been shot in the head.

I like to think that's House at work, though. He made Mr. New Vegas, after all.
Nah, that'd honestly be news in the setting. Couriers are a) usually badass and b) maybe carrying your poo poo. Its not going to be the topic of a bunch of talking, but as a newspoint? Definitely.

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!
Plus, hey! Got shot in the head and survived! Little note of hope for all the guys and gals who're risking getting shot in the head out in the wasteland.

Motherfucker
Jul 16, 2011

I certainly dont have deep-seated issues involving birthdays.
In other news I accidentally got some gross wasteland water in my boot and now I have a tumor behind my kneecap that just won't stop screaming.

grate deceiver
Jul 10, 2009

Just a funny av. Not a redtext or an own ok.
Well, the Fallout thing to do would be to cut it off and eat it. Or throw it at some big roided-up dude hoping for a surprise.

Paracelsus
Apr 6, 2009

bless this post ~kya

double nine posted:

the Come fly with me quest - which arguably isn't even a Novac quest.
You can be given the quest through conversation in Novac, and completing it gives you Novac rep.

wafflemoose
Apr 10, 2009

2house2fly posted:

Plus, hey! Got shot in the head and survived! Little note of hope for all the guys and gals who're risking getting shot in the head out in the wasteland.

That's not a big deal because it usually takes multiple headshots to take down someone in the Fallout Universe. Maybe the Courier had a END of 1, would explain why it took two pointblank headshots from a 9mm pistol to nearly kill them, they should have checked to see if they had 1 HP left before burying.

derra
Dec 29, 2012

Starhawk64 posted:

That's not a big deal because it usually takes multiple headshots to take down someone in the Fallout Universe. Maybe the Courier had a END of 1, would explain why it took two pointblank headshots from a 9mm pistol to nearly kill them, they should have checked to see if they had 1 HP left before burying.

What?

As long as they didn't see me, Deathclaws died in one shot as long as I hit them. Head, leg, arm, didn't really matter.

SpookyLizard
Feb 17, 2009
Also maybe its because its a town the survives on salvaging bits and pieces of technology and hes a robot.

wafflemoose
Apr 10, 2009

I doubt the Courier is a robot. I'm just poking fun at the gameplay and story segregation the game has. Storywise headshots are supposed to be lethal, yet during gameplay it often takes 4-5 rounds to the head to kill your target if you're not using the absolute top end weapons.

Ravenfood
Nov 4, 2011

Starhawk64 posted:

I doubt the Courier is a robot. I'm just poking fun at the gameplay and story segregation the game has. Storywise headshots are supposed to be lethal, yet during gameplay it often takes 4-5 rounds to the head to kill your target if you're not using the absolute top end weapons.
Gotta crouch, man. That was Benny's problem, he should have crouched before shooting you.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

double nine posted:

For a long while I thought that Mr New Vegas was the doctor who revives you at the start of the game. Then I read that they're not even the same voice actor


"Mister Las Vegas" is a nickname for Mister New Vegas's voice actor, Wayne Newton, a very famous performer who used to have a famous nightly show in LV.

Chronojam
Feb 20, 2006

This is me on vacation in Amsterdam :)
Never be afraid of being yourself!


Motherfucker posted:

In other news I accidentally got some gross wasteland water in my boot and now I have a tumor behind my kneecap that just won't stop screaming.

The screaming will stop just as soon as the Johnny Guitar stops.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Chronojam posted:

The screaming will stop just as soon as the Johnny Guitar stops.

Any time you encounter another character in FO3 or New Vegas, just think to yourself: "How long has it probably been since this guy bathed, and how bad must he smell?"

wafflemoose
Apr 10, 2009

Pope Guilty posted:

Any time you encounter another character in FO3 or New Vegas, just think to yourself: "How long has it probably been since this guy bathed, and how bad must he smell?"

Considering that people don't clean up the trash and rubble, the whole area must smell bad. Doesn't matter how bad someone stinks because the whole place stinks.

Fair Bear Maiden
Jun 17, 2013
Imagine how the Ultra-Luxe guys must feel when you enter the casino.

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

Fair Bear Maiden posted:

Imagine how the Ultra-Luxe guys must feel when you enter the casino.

hungry

EvilTobaccoExec
Dec 22, 2003

Criminals are a superstitious, cowardly lot, so my disguise must be able to strike terror into their hearts!
hello fallout new vegas thread

i have created a completely new version of fallout (currently I use it with tale of two wastelands) that radically changes the game, making it somewhere between 10 and 100 times better than the vanilla game.

all you have to do is replace the soundtrack with the one from "Escape from New York" (1981), and then play (compatible with all mods)

HOLY poo poo IT IS AMAZING

Rex Deckard
Jul 15, 2004

EvilTobaccoExec posted:


all you have to do is replace the soundtrack with the one from "Escape from New York" (1981), and then play (compatible with all mods)

HOLY poo poo IT IS AMAZING

I would so love Caesar and the legion to be replaced by The Duke and the Felons.

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house

EvilTobaccoExec posted:

hello fallout new vegas thread

i have created a completely new version of fallout (currently I use it with tale of two wastelands) that radically changes the game, making it somewhere between 10 and 100 times better than the vanilla game.

all you have to do is replace the soundtrack with the one from "Escape from New York" (1981), and then play (compatible with all mods)

HOLY poo poo IT IS AMAZING

It would be much better with this

http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/53343

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
I think House not having any backup plans if the Courier doesn't join him is in character. He thinks he's invincible and the smartest living man. I mean, he lives in a bunker kept alive for over 200 years, suviving a war that destroyed all of human civilization. Not only that, but before the war he was pretty much responsible for all of the advanced tech that was used. How many RobCo things have there been? Lots of stuff in the Vaults were created by RobCo, including your Pipboy.

He is so detached that he cannot even think that someone may take a stand against him.

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
The first time you meet him he pretty much says to the word that without a doubt, you'll help him. To him, his own plan is infallible because he just plain knows you're going to help him. He's not necessarily blinded by his ego so much as planning for the wrong kind of failings. Like, he has his obituary blasted on loudspeakers to everyone on the Strip when he dies... but his entire scheme hinges on the Courier helping him and he doesn't have a contingency plan for if that doesn't work out.

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."
To be fair, he assumes the courier is going to take the rationally self-interested route (because he would) and House is by far the best choice in that context, and he's arguably the best choice for the Mojave in the broader scoooh God it's starting agaaaain

Trick Question
Apr 9, 2007


The NCR are imperialists, Mr. House is a petty immortal dictator, yes-man is a cop out option, legion is obviously stupid and bad, etc., etc., the only good ending is the one where the courier fucks off back west because gently caress cazadores and Benny takes over New Vegas.

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!
You are his backup plan. By the time you meet him in the game he's got no other options. All he can do is be nice to you through Victor and hope gratitude for saving you will be motivation enough to help him. If it isn't then he'll offer you riches. If that doesn't work he'll threaten you. Whatever it takes, because everything is riding on you at this point.

mbt
Aug 13, 2012

A lot of people recommend "A world of pain" for a second playthrough, am I the only one who thinks that mod is irredeemably bad?

Jsawywer + PN or just Jsawyer for a second playthrough?

Roobanguy
May 31, 2011

Mortimer posted:

A lot of people recommend "A world of pain" for a second playthrough, am I the only one who thinks that mod is irredeemably bad?

Jsawywer + PN or just Jsawyer for a second playthrough?

When I play its usually with both. Gotta have that inventory sorting!

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS

Mortimer posted:

A lot of people recommend "A world of pain" for a second playthrough, am I the only one who thinks that mod is irredeemably bad?

A lot of people are stupid. You are not, because AWOP sucks.

PN on the other hand is pretty awesome, and it's very customizable. Just set it up how you like and go.

SpookyLizard
Feb 17, 2009
House is entirely egomaniacal enough to believe you wouldn't back stab him. He's totally convinced that he's the rightist bestest smartest option for Mankind and Vegas that you can't not work for him. He didn't envision Benny could betray him either, yet it happened. He still doesn't think you could do it either, despite the fact that he's only meeting with you because he was let rayed by someone he quasi trusted.

Caesar is similar. Despite all of the rules he's laid out for his society, he literally gives no fucks about breaking them to his own ends. Because he's better and more important than those mong loving legionnaires. They don't know poo poo, he's their loving god emperor super king. Anyone who raises any questions is going to get a shiv in the back and crucified, though no one likely will since they'd probably assume you're a Frumentari and Legionnaires aren't the question asking type to begin with.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.
Monster Mod is the worst mod because while it adds all these awesome monsters it has no interest whatsoever in their placement making any sense, leading you to step out of the doctor's house and bam there's a twelve-foot abomination with a huge fuckoff axe who would like to have a word with you about what a dick you're being about this whole "head attached to body" thing.

mbt
Aug 13, 2012

I wish there were an end-all-be-all "realism" combat mod.

I want one-hit headshot kills on both me and the enemy. Yeah it's cheating because I've played NV enough to know where the enemy spawns are, but that's beyond the point.

Also House is the best option for the survival of new vegas, if you disagree you are not a two hundred year old cyber genius and are therefore wrong

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line
apparently Rope-Kid tried this in jsawyer (I think) and it was totally brutally unplayable or something

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
Yeah, extreme realism mode in this game would be really fun if only because it would quickly become "watch my character ragdoll simulator 2014"; but also would be Devil May Cry's Hell and Hell mode (not to be confused with Heaven or Hell). Whoever gets first strike basically wins. :v:

Caufman
May 7, 2007

Trick Question posted:

The NCR are imperialists, Mr. House is a petty immortal dictator, yes-man is a cop out option, legion is obviously stupid and bad, etc., etc., the only good ending is the one where the courier fucks off back west because gently caress cazadores and Benny takes over New Vegas.

People toss around this word imperialism to the point where the word has lost meaning. What kind of empire spans a five hour drive between two cities founded by the same nation, under the same federal republic, that speak the same language, that share the same history and have extremely close strategic interests. Fans talk about how the Fallout games should involve seeing the progress made after the fall of the bombs, but then we make rebuilding lost borders an anathema.

It hasn't made sense for the world to operate as a series of independent city-states since Plato died. In a future where any idiot with a flashlight might stumble upon a forgotten intercontinental superweapon, restoring regional security is an imperative, not an ambition.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

Caufman posted:

People toss around this word imperialism to the point where the word has lost meaning. What kind of empire spans a five hour drive between two cities founded by the same nation, under the same federal republic, that speak the same language, that share the same history and have extremely close strategic interests.

Israel? (The Kingdom of, not the modern entity)

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wafflemoose
Apr 10, 2009

While I like House's plan to rebuild civilization enough to get people off Earth since it is too trashed to be sustainable, I don't know if he really has the infrastructure to fully support it. Then again I like the idea of House being Fallout's version of the God Emperor of Mankind.

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