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Sham bam bamina!: Nov 6, 2012; ƨtupid cat

Darth Walrus posted:

It's also known as That Succubus Anime. Amusingly/horrifyingly enough, there's a manga that came before either of them, is totally innocent and harmless, and has a name that reads like an unfortunate portmanteau of both. Kodomo no Omocha.

I'm going to pretend that that's what I had in mind because the thought of three of these things isn't very pleasant.

# ? Mar 16, 2014 00:24

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# ? Jun 4, 2024 04:15

Darth Walrus: Feb 13, 2012

To be clear, the one I spoilered was the innocent one with the retroactively-unfortunate name. They're called TATMNBN for a reason.

# ? Mar 16, 2014 00:28

Sham bam bamina!: Nov 6, 2012; ƨtupid cat

Darth Walrus posted:

To be clear, the one I spoilered was the innocent one with the retroactively-unfortunate name. They're called TATMNBN for a reason.

I didn't misunderstand that. Let's get off the subject, though; I don't want this to turn into a full-blown derail.

Sham bam bamina! fucked around with this message at 00:41 on Mar 16, 2014

# ? Mar 16, 2014 00:38

Darth Walrus: Feb 13, 2012

Sham bam bamina! posted:

I didn't misunderstand that. Let's get off the subject, though; I don't want this to turn into a full-blown derail.

Swell, quite. Anyone gone through that giant wad of fart-fetish fanfic posted last page for highlights? :smithicide:

# ? Mar 16, 2014 00:51

Penny Paper: Dec 31, 2012

Dexters Secret posted:

Is there anything similar to CrazyGogg's YouTube channel that's still active nowadays?

Not any I've seen on YouTube. Maybe there's something on DailyMotion or blip.tv or Vimeo, but I doubt it.

# ? Mar 16, 2014 02:29

Cygna: Mar 6, 2009; The ghost of a god is no man.

Darth Walrus posted:

Swell, quite. Anyone gone through that giant wad of fart-fetish fanfic posted last page for highlights?

I've run across this guy before. I wasn't going to post this, but since you asked, here's 40,000 words about a character from Pokemon farting. I'd post highlights, but a) I'm not reading through that poo poo, and b) FF.net doesn't let you copy-paste text from stories anymore, and I would never be able to write down all the WTF from that story.

Random paragraph from a random chapter posted:

Bianca then noticed a little garden ahead of her, laying in the water like a boat as she used her farts to propel her forward, stopping as she was right in front of the garden. She then climbed out, panting as she felt a little air headed from all her farting, only to be headbutted by the angry blue colored bull, aptly named Big Butt. Bianca fell on her own big butt, letting out a loud poot as a splat followed, with Bianca sniffling as tears formed in her eyes.

"That's... not nice..." Bianca whimpered as she began crying, only to get impaled in the stomach by the Big Butt again, letting out another raunchy toot in response.

# ? Mar 16, 2014 04:21

Testekill: Nov 1, 2012; I demand to be taken seriously

Ratspeaker posted:

I've run across this guy before. I wasn't going to post this, but since you asked, here's 40,000 words about a character from Pokemon farting. I'd post highlights, but a) I'm not reading through that poo poo, and b) FF.net doesn't let you copy-paste text from stories anymore, and I would never be able to write down all the WTF from that story.

I repeat, what even the gently caress?

# ? Mar 16, 2014 04:27

Sham bam bamina!: Nov 6, 2012; ƨtupid cat

Ratspeaker posted:

I've run across this guy before. I wasn't going to post this, but since you asked, here's 40,000 words about a character from Pokemon farting. I'd post highlights, but a) I'm not reading through that poo poo, and b) FF.net doesn't let you copy-paste text from stories anymore, and I would never be able to write down all the WTF from that story.

This is an F Plus/Lou Reads episode waiting to happen.

Also, if anyone wants to post more quotes, you can ~~probably~~ view the page source and copy from there.

Amy Rose's Big Butt Farting posted:

Yoshizilla-Rhedosaurus: I swear, if I actually get to one hundred chapters with this crap, then... dramatically read it. Hell, even if it doesn't, dramatically read it anyway. Dramatically read any of my friggin' stories, I need my daily dose of lulz, you know! And yeah, I added another Amy Rose fart thing to the Internet... butt (lolpun) it's somewhat different. No, it doesn't involve Amy being fat or in her underwear, or naked. I'm not that sick, y'know. Just... read and enjoy. And I couldn't come up with a better title, so sue me.

Amy Rose's Big Butt Farting posted:

Suddenly, Amy farted a cute little poot, of which was magical, as it suddenly caused Amy's butt to become large and sexy. Amy gasped in shock as she rubbed her butt, feeling how huge and smooth it was. Amy looked down, to see that her waist slightly extended, to accompany the big butt. Amy squealed with delight as she was satisfied.

"Excellent! All I needed was to toot, and I got my wish come true!" Amy squealed with delight, rubbing her big butt that was enclosed in her sexy blue jeans with both of her hands, giggling. "I don't know how this could get any better!"

Amy's stomach growled as a tiny squeak came out of Amy's butt. Amy blinked as she giggled, before letting out a powerful gas blast that blew a hole in the wall. Her fart as loud as a tuba, Amy gawked as her eyes widened from the shock, blushing in embarrassment as her butt now felt a bit damp, a somewhat wet spot appearing at the back of her blue jeans.</p><p>"Oh no... it's going to be one of those days..." Amy groaned as she shook her head in disappointment.

And here's a story that I can't bring myself to quote. Enjoy! All right, one quote: "She blushed harder than she had ever before, literally cumming waterfalls of sweet, sweet vanilla icing." :pervert:

Sham bam bamina! fucked around with this message at 05:15 on Mar 16, 2014

# ? Mar 16, 2014 04:54

corn in the bible: Jun 5, 2004; Oh no oh god it's all true!

Byde posted:

... How long has that site been existing? And how did you find out about it?

It came up while I was googling for a troper tales archive or something like that and I knew immediately it was special

# ? Mar 16, 2014 05:40

Venusian Weasel: Nov 18, 2011

Ratspeaker posted:

I've run across this guy before. I wasn't going to post this, but since you asked, here's 40,000 words about a character from Pokemon farting. I'd post highlights, but a) I'm not reading through that poo poo, and b) FF.net doesn't let you copy-paste text from stories anymore, and I would never be able to write down all the WTF from that story.

I guess that explains this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJjeesteTEg

# ? Mar 16, 2014 06:26

lucythenomad: Mar 6, 2012

This guy has written over 800 fanfics. :wtc:

He reminds me of this other troper Haggis McCrablice, whose fetishes include belching, farting and sneezing. He also feels the need to tell the internet about his bowel movements.

# ? Mar 16, 2014 23:27

Darth TNT: Sep 20, 2013

all the Tropes posted:

This doesn't mean that we are free from censorship either -- we just have much less. Sexually explicit material will be removed, but discussion of explicit works is encouraged.

This policy derives from our sense of Academic freedom -- the idea that no researcher should be barred from any field of inquiry. While we're a lot less formal than a scientific paper, we believe that there is value to be had in looking at the tropes in famous works like Deep Throat, La Blue Girl, and Lolita (yes, even that was briefly banned). These works may be popular with some, but they address an important part of the human condition.

Don't show, just talk please. Famous works such as Deep Throat, Lolita and who could forget the timeless classic La Blue Girl. :cripes:

quote:

Fart stories

# ? Mar 17, 2014 10:07

Sham bam bamina!: Nov 6, 2012; ƨtupid cat

Darth TNT posted:

This policy derives from our sense of Academic freedom -- the idea that no researcher should be barred from any field of inquiry.

They can't possibly be this deluded. :cripes:

# ? Mar 17, 2014 10:27

Testekill: Nov 1, 2012; I demand to be taken seriously

So All the Tropes is fair game right? It looks like it's essentially TV Tropes prior to the whole google ads stuff along with a certain tinge of bitterness.

# ? Mar 17, 2014 11:47

vaguely: Apr 29, 2013; hot_squirting_honey.gif

lucythenomad posted:

This guy has written over 800 fanfics.

He reminds me of this other troper Haggis McCrablice, whose fetishes include belching, farting and sneezing. He also feels the need to tell the internet about his bowel movements.

This is what James Joyce would have been, had he been born in 1987.

# ? Mar 17, 2014 13:28

Penny Paper: Dec 31, 2012

Sham bam bamina! posted:

They can't possibly be this deluded.

Is this your first day here?

quote:

So All the Tropes is fair game right?

I don't see why it wouldn't be, since it's pretty much what TV Tropes used to be, minus Troper Tales (or has that reappeared on All the Tropes under a new name...or the same one)?

# ? Mar 17, 2014 15:59

watho: Aug 2, 2013; The real world will, again tomorrow, function and run without me.

The fact that several communities have formed that thinks that TvTropes is too restrained boggles the hell out of my mind.

# ? Mar 17, 2014 18:45

corn in the bible: Jun 5, 2004; Oh no oh god it's all true!

watho posted:

The fact that several communities have formed that thinks that TvTropes is too restrained boggles the hell out of my mind.

It also makes you appreciate Fast Eddy a lot more if that's the kind of people he has to deal with

# ? Mar 17, 2014 19:14

watho: Aug 2, 2013; The real world will, again tomorrow, function and run without me.

corn in the bible posted:

It also makes you appreciate Fast Eddy a lot more if that's the kind of people he has to deal with

Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

# ? Mar 17, 2014 20:24

Apple Tree: Sep 8, 2013

quote:

This policy derives from our sense of Academic freedom -- the idea that no researcher should be barred from any field of inquiry. While we're a lot less formal than a scientific paper, we believe that there is value to be had in looking at the tropes in famous works like Deep Throat, La Blue Girl, and Lolita (yes, even that was briefly banned). These works may be popular with some, but they address an important part of the human condition.

And this is why 'academic' is not a word they should be allowed to use.

Study Lolita because it addresses an important part of the human condition? Okay, sure. Self-justification and predation are, sadly, important elements of humanity. It's probably not the main reason to study it - that would be your starter for ten on 'literary technique', goes to Actually Interested In Academia College, Scrap o' Sense University - but it is actually a pretty good portrait of a pedophile and the excuses he makes are uncomfortably similar to real-life excuses.

Study Deep Throat because it addresses an important part of the human condition? Nnnnnope. (Hands up: I haven't actually seen the film - I don't want to go near anything Chuck Traynor touched - so my knowledge is based on a documentary about it. But it was quite a long documentary) There are grounds to study it academically, but not because it conveys any kind of artistic truth. Its place would be on cultural or media studies as a historically influential social artefact, and probably in any twentieth-century gender studies course as a classic of what we might call the Playboy ideology. It has its academic place, but no part of the human condition includes a clitoris down its throat.

Study La Blue Girl academically? I only just looked it up on Wikipedia - but since the story appears to be...

quote:

The story involves various ninja clans who continually fight each other. The female protagonist is Miko Mido, a young ninja-in-training and the next leader of the Miroku ninja clan. This clan has control over the Shikima, a perverted race of demons. However, when thieves steal the magic compact giving the clan this power, Miko has to fight the Shikima, utilizing her "sexcraft" ninjutsu in order to save the world. The Shikima live in a parallel dimension called the Shikima world, and one must perform specific sexual rituals in order to travel there. The Shikima are all sex-hungry monsters, led by the Shikima Lord, who also happens to be Miko Mido's father.

...I don't think I'm going too far out on the limb to say that this is not exactly Primo Levi here.

Academics do study pulp and porn because they can tell you a great deal about the culture that produces them, but again, it's not because they address important human questions. They're not a teacher; they're Exhibit A.

# ? Mar 17, 2014 20:36

Darth TNT: Sep 20, 2013

watho posted:

The fact that several communities have formed that thinks that TvTropes is too restrained boggles the hell out of my mind.

Well, do you see any pedoporn tropes on tvtropes? :colbert:

Apple Tree posted:

Study La Blue Girl academically? I only just looked it up on Wikipedia - but since the story appears to be...

...I don't think I'm going too far out on the limb to say that this is not exactly Primo Levi here.

Academics do study pulp and porn because they can tell you a great deal about the culture that produces them, but again, it's not because they address important human questions. They're not a teacher; they're Exhibit A.

I poo poo you not, when I was but a wee lad I saw an episode of la blue girl. Any show that contains lines in along the lines of "your power is no match for my powerful sexcraft" followed by copious amounts of helium panting is surely an important cultural object worthy of study.

# ? Mar 17, 2014 21:23

Apple Tree: Sep 8, 2013

Darth TNT posted:

I poo poo you not, when I was but a wee lad I saw an episode of la blue girl. Any show that contains lines in along the lines of "your power is no match for my powerful sexcraft" followed by copious amounts of helium panting is surely an important cultural object worthy of study.

Do I even want to know what helium panting is?

# ? Mar 17, 2014 22:11

Kaboom Dragoon: May 7, 2010; The greatest of feasts

Apple Tree posted:

(Hands up: I haven't actually seen the film - I don't want to go near anything Chuck Traynor touched - so my knowledge is based on a documentary about it. But it was quite a long documentary)

What was that documentary, out of interest? I'm sure I've seen one or two about it, but I can't remember what they were called.

# ? Mar 17, 2014 22:18

PublicOpinion: Oct 21, 2010; Her style is new but the face is the same as it was so long ago...

Apple Tree posted:

Do I even want to know what helium panting is?

I'm assuming they were using helium to mean "high-pitched".

# ? Mar 17, 2014 22:18

Darth TNT: Sep 20, 2013

Apple Tree posted:

Do I even want to know what helium panting is?

It's what I'm calling the shrill voices they use in anime. They use those chipmunk voices mostly for panting and moaning, it's hilarious for about 5minutes.

# ? Mar 17, 2014 22:20

Penny Paper: Dec 31, 2012

Apple Tree posted:

Do I even want to know what helium panting is?

I'm going to take the safe bet and say that it's heavy breathing in a high-pitched voice, either from testicular trauma, laryngitis, genetics, or -- the obvious choice -- doing hits of helium by sucking party balloons for a cheap high.

I don't want to know what the disgusting alternative is.

Or maybe they misspelled "painting," which raises the question of what "helium painting" is and how it's seen in context on La Blue Girl.

# ? Mar 17, 2014 22:20

Kaboom Dragoon: May 7, 2010; The greatest of feasts

Penny Paper posted:

I'm going to take the safe bet and say that it's heavy breathing in a high-pitched voice, either from testicular trauma, laryngitis, genetics, or -- the obvious choice -- doing hits of helium by sucking party balloons for a cheap high.

I don't want to know what the disgusting alternative is.

Or maybe they misspelled "painting," which raises the question of what "helium painting" is and how it's seen in context on La Blue Girl.

The artists were really, really high.

# ? Mar 17, 2014 22:22

Apple Tree: Sep 8, 2013

Kaboom Dragoon posted:

What was that documentary, out of interest? I'm sure I've seen one or two about it, but I can't remember what they were called.

The Real Linda Lovelace by Mark Kermode; it's on YouTube, I think. It interviews a lot of notable people and tries to be balanced. Even with its best attempts to be fair, though, Traynor comes across as ... I'll be soft-spoken and say 'a very bad man'.

# ? Mar 17, 2014 22:25

Kaboom Dragoon: May 7, 2010; The greatest of feasts

Apple Tree posted:

The Real Linda Lovelace by Mark Kermode; it's on YouTube, I think. It interviews a lot of notable people and tries to be balanced. Even with its best attempts to be fair, though, Traynor comes across as ... I'll be soft-spoken and say 'a very bad man'.

Yeah, I think I saw that years ago. Thanks, I'll need to watch it again.

# ? Mar 17, 2014 22:30

corn in the bible: Jun 5, 2004; Oh no oh god it's all true!

Kaboom Dragoon posted:

Yeah, I think I saw that years ago. Thanks, I'll need to watch it again.

You might also be thinking of Inside Deep Throat, which is about how they marketed and sold the film. It's pretty interesting.

# ? Mar 17, 2014 23:01

Apple Tree: Sep 8, 2013

And yet, after all that fuss, what do they actually have to say about Deep Throat?

...and a page on the biopic Lovelace, which goes thus:

quote:

Film: Lovelace

A 2013 biopic about "Linda Lovelace" (real name Linda Boreman), the star of Deep Throat (1972). Deep Throat was the first "mainstream" pornographic film that featured characters, a plot, and passable production values. The movie became a something of a sensation in the early 1970s, and is one of the highest grossing pornographic films of all time. Lovelace stars Amanda Seyfried in the title role.

This movie provides examples of:

Advertised Extra: The trailer lists Chloe Sevigny as one of the stars. In the theatrical release, she has about two lines.

Domestic Abuser

Leno Device: With Johnny Carson, to the horror of Linda Lovelace's mom.

Marital Rape License

Mood Whiplash: Starts off as something of a light-hearted, raunchy romp about the making of a porn star in the early 1970s. It turns much darker as we go back and see what "really" happened, according to Lovelace's last autobiography.

"Rashomon"-Style: The movie shows how Lovelace's assent to stardom appeared to outsiders (and the way she told the story in her first autobiography), then goes back and shows the same scenes (in addition to other scenes to provide context) as described in her last autobiography, Ordeal.

The Seventies

(And the Marital Rape License page apparently found it necessary to say 'No real life examples, please', not once, but twice.)

The thing is, a classic porn film probably is the kind of subject where tropes are a not-stupid way of analysing; porn is formulaic and tends to depend on packaging discrete elements rather than creating a coherent whole. Categorising the tropes in porn isn't an unreasonable way to approach it if you're trying to study it. But apparently they don't want to.

Then again, the 'no real life examples' page includes this little labour-saving rule:

quote:

Calling real life people "villains" is an example of shoehorning, since the villain is only a specific character role in a story, and real life does not follow a set narrative with clearly-designated roles. Evil people do exist, but calling someone evil is considered too controversial a label on this site for real life example.

Which conveniently protects the mods from having to make any judgement calls. It would make analysing Deep Throat a bit difficult, though; in the Kermode documentary, one of the interviewees actually called Traynor 'a villain'. Traynor himself cheerfully admitted battering his wife with about as much compunction as most people would admit hiding cookies they didn't want to share with their wife, but hey, let's not be controversial about it!

# ? Mar 18, 2014 16:19

Soulcleaver: Sep 25, 2007; Murderer

Apple Tree posted:

Which conveniently protects the mods from having to make any judgement calls. It would make analysing Deep Throat a bit difficult, though; in the Kermode documentary, one of the interviewees actually called Traynor 'a villain'. Traynor himself cheerfully admitted battering his wife with about as much compunction as most people would admit hiding cookies they didn't want to share with their wife, but hey, let's not be controversial about it!

Literal Nazis are the only real-life villains allowed on TV Tropes. Still technically against the rules, but not even the most depraved Troper is going to defend Josef Mengele.

# ? Mar 18, 2014 18:11

corn in the bible: Jun 5, 2004; Oh no oh god it's all true!

Soulcleaver posted:

Literal Nazis are the only real-life villains allowed on TV Tropes. Still technically against the rules, but not even the most depraved Troper is going to defend Josef Mengele.

Yeah, he'd have to take it to one of the TV TROPES SPINOFFS

# ? Mar 18, 2014 18:18

Regalingualius: Jan 7, 2012; We gazed into the eyes of madness... And all we found was horny.

Soulcleaver posted:

Literal Nazis are the only real-life villains allowed on TV Tropes. Still technically against the rules, but not even the most depraved Troper is going to defend Josef Mengele.

You realize you just provided the set-up for someone to prove you horribly, horribly wrong, right? :smith:

# ? Mar 18, 2014 18:19

Jerry Manderbilt: May 31, 2012; No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.

Regalingualius posted:

You realize you just provided the set-up for someone to prove you horribly, horribly wrong, right?

Didn't we have "It's Full of Stars" or one of those other awful OTC guys unironically arguing that the only way to save Africa was to genocide it two years back?

Wonder if those guys're still around.

# ? Mar 18, 2014 18:22

Kaboom Dragoon: May 7, 2010; The greatest of feasts

corn in the bible posted:

You might also be thinking of Inside Deep Throat, which is about how they marketed and sold the film. It's pretty interesting.

I've definitely seen that one. No, the first was the one I was thinking of, I originally saw it when it was shown on UK TV. I've been thinking of Inside Deep Throat lately though.

# ? Mar 18, 2014 20:10

Lottery of Babylon: Apr 25, 2012; STRAIGHT TROPIN'

Major Tom's stated position on the Middle East was "nuke it all to glass, down to the last mud hovel".

# ? Mar 18, 2014 20:42

Apple Tree: Sep 8, 2013

Lottery of Babylon posted:

Major Tom's stated position on the Middle East was "nuke it all to glass, down to the last mud hovel".

Can you make glass out of mud? I thought you needed sand.

# ? Mar 18, 2014 22:30

sweeperbravo: May 18, 2012; AUNT GWEN'S COLD SHAPE (!)

Apple Tree posted:

Can you make glass out of mud? I thought you needed sand.

The middle East is a desert.... duh... didn't you ever watch The Mummy?

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# ? Jun 4, 2024 04:15

Lottery of Babylon: Apr 25, 2012; STRAIGHT TROPIN'

Apple Tree posted:

Can you make glass out of mud? I thought you needed sand.

Washout "Eye'm the Cutest!" Tom believes that you can "glass" the entire planet with nukes. I think he's just using glass as a general verb for "to nuke" at this point because he thinks that's how people who are actually in the military talk.

In the linked post, he also says that we can fight off aliens because obviously they'd go down and fight fair against ARE TROOPS on the ground (because there is no middle ground or alternative between "have firefights between infantry" and "GLASS EVERYTHING"), and that if bad aliens did arrive to hurt us then obviously there must already be a super-fleet of stronger good aliens who are also elves who got here first and will protect us so everything will be okay.

# ? Mar 18, 2014 22:50

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