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Club Sandwich posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ouI5KcyHfE The label she's on is devoted to using old obsolete tech.
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WebDog posted:Did someone say obsolete and dated music videos? Oh why the hell not: Do these count as a parody videos? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up863eQKGUI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUCyvw4w_yk Humphreys has a new favorite as of 06:57 on Mar 19, 2014 |
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AlternateAccount posted:Wasn't RealPlayer on OSX actually really nice and not a bloated adware mess? I wouldn't say it was "really nice" but it had no ads, actually ran very fast, and could do playlisting, etc. I still keep a copy of RealPlayer 8 (I think) on a modern Snow Leopard iMac... just in case? Real figured out how to make the player for Mac as lovely as the PC one eventually, so I've kind of preserved that one bit of acceptable software as an insurance policy; realistically I haven't opened that app in the 3 machines it's been ported to other than to check it works, and I doubt I ever will again. I had the second generation of coloured iMac when they came out - the DV400 with firewire - along with an early DV camcorder to make films with my friends. From iMovie you could only port to like .dv and .mov at the time and I was astonished by how horrible QT for the PC was. Someone here mentioned the year-long loading time and I remember that well. On the Mac it was a lovely, quick bit of software marred by some poor UI choices. I still like QT7 Pro + Perian for very basic video editing of non-Mac friendly codecs. I've been using iTunes since MacOS9 which must be getting on for over a decade and I've never not known it to be a bag of poo poo on Windows machines into the modern day. No idea how people with PC's who had to install it for their iPhones coped.
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Am I the only person who got stuck with a computer running Geoworks in the early 90s?
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Mar 19, 2014 12:53
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Yes. I'm so sorry.
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echoplex posted:I've been using iTunes since MacOS9 RIP SoundJam MP.
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Back when I had some ancient Pentium, the newfangled MP3s were near impossible to play alongside Word, so I often visited this site to get MIDIs to listen to while doing school work. The Koopa Sisters seem to have not survived their journey into the future.
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vxskud posted:Am I the only person who got stuck with a computer running Geoworks in the early 90s? A Commodore64 running GEOS in the early 90s was loving awesome.
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Phanatic posted:A Commodore64 running GEOS in the early 90s was loving awesome. Did they ever get, you know, mouse drivers done for that? Or did the cursor always move rigidly at 90 and 45 degree angles, like you were using a joystick? The box came with a little " Oh don't you worry about the mouse, this things gonna take off in the business world and people will rush to fix our lovely broken mouse interface  " insert which was hilarious.But yeah, I have a copy of Commodore 64 GEOS in box, and it's something special  Just what I always wanted, an incredibly elaborate program launcher that I can't return to after starting an application.
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WebDog posted:Back when I had some ancient Pentium, the newfangled MP3s were near impossible to play alongside Word, so I often visited this site to get MIDIs to listen to while doing school work. I had an assload of MIDIs around that time, since my Pentium 100 struggled with decoding MP3s and doing anything like web browsing at the same time. Plus midis were like 30kb each, while a MP3 was 4meg. It helped having a AWE64 though, they had pretty good soundfont libraries.
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KozmoNaut posted:Back when I worked at Bang & Olufsen are you responsible for the turntable and receiver I can't test without buying a separate control panel 
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atomicthumbs posted:are you responsible for the turntable and receiver I can't test without buying a separate control panel Haha no, I'm only 28, I was an IT/electronics apprentice from 05 to 07. However, I did work on the setup software for the Beo5 remote, this thing:  They've since replaced it with the Beo6, which is slightly better, but still needlessly complicated. However, my dad has worked with electronics since the early 70s, and he still gets nervous twitches if you mention certain Bang & Olufsen products, including the tangential tonearm turntables and pretty much every Beomaster.
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CitizenKain posted:I had an assload of MIDIs around that time, since my Pentium 100 struggled with decoding MP3s and doing anything like web browsing at the same time. Plus midis were like 30kb each, while a MP3 was 4meg. It helped having a AWE64 though, they had pretty good soundfont libraries. My first stationary computer was a P2 266 MHz with 64 MB RAM, and it couldn't play The Matrix that I bought on DVD without chopping. I researched buying those dedicated DVD playback PCI cards (hello obsolete!), but just let it be until I bought a new computer some years later. Media playback can still be a bit of a bitch even today. Around 4-5 years ago I downloaded some giga-sized HD porn movie (HD porn wow!!) in 1080p, and my Core2Duo 3 GHz really struggled to show that in full screen fluently.
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There is an obsolete concept: The Matrix DVD being the DVD benchmark of choice.
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I meant to link to this Laserdisc-based video manual for a combination hard drive and 5¼-inch floppy drive when it was first posted in YOSPOS, but I somehow forgot about it until now. Definitely worth at least a quick skim, especially the part in the middle where the instructor explains the necessity of letting the hard drive warm up and reach "thermal stability".
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I want to see some true HD Porn. I want a 1080p blu-ray pornographic movie. I just don't trust porn companies to actually shoot in HD and then master the disc properly, because, let's be honest, I'm from a generation that watched softcore porn because the planets aligned and cinemax came in slightly less blurry one evening. >99.9% of porn consumers do not give a flying gently caress about quality. I'm also leary of any website that sells pornographic dvds. If I actually go to the length to purchase something from a smut peddler and it's some 480i upscaled bullshit I would be FURIOUS.
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Sham bam bamina! posted:I meant to link to this Laserdisc-based video manual for a combination hard drive and 5¼-inch floppy drive when it was first posted in YOSPOS, but I somehow forgot about it until now. Definitely worth at least a quick skim, especially the part in the middle where the instructor explains the necessity of letting the hard drive warm up and reach "thermal stability". Why am I watching this and why am I totally rapt by it?
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KozmoNaut posted:Haha no, I'm only 28, I was an IT/electronics apprentice from 05 to 07. However, I did work on the setup software for the Beo5 remote, this thing: God those Beo5's give me nightmares I used to work for a pre-owned B&O Dealership still at least it can't be used as a weapon like the Beo4.....
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Dr. Witherbone posted:But yeah, I have a copy of Commodore 64 GEOS in box, and it's something special Holy poo poo, I got my C64 when it was already obsolete and always wondered if the copy of GEOS was faulty or missing components because it was just so utterly useless.
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Lowen SoDium posted:There is an obsolete concept:
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Full Battle Rattle posted:I want to see some true HD Porn. I want a 1080p blu-ray pornographic movie. I just don't trust porn companies to actually shoot in HD and then master the disc properly, because, let's be honest, I'm from a generation that watched softcore porn because the planets aligned and cinemax came in slightly less blurry one evening. >99.9% of porn consumers do not give a flying gently caress about quality. I'm also leary of any website that sells pornographic dvds. 1080? I hear they're already pushing 4K. You're a porn caveman.
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eddiewalker posted:1080? I hear they're already pushing 4K. You're a porn caveman. You can see the individual sperm. Sperms?
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The Ape of Naples posted:You can see the individual sperm. Sperms? Well, each one is sacred.
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Full Battle Rattle posted:I want to see some true HD Porn. I want a 1080p blu-ray pornographic movie. I just don't trust porn companies to actually shoot in HD and then master the disc properly, because, let's be honest, I'm from a generation that watched softcore porn because the planets aligned and cinemax came in slightly less blurry one evening. >99.9% of porn consumers do not give a flying gently caress about quality. I'm also leary of any website that sells pornographic dvds. They say it's safe for work, but I'm tagging it  http://naughtyamerica4k.com/You can walk into any porno store and get porn on Blu Ray. Hell, you can walk into FYE or whatever your local music and movie store is and they'll have a selection of adult DVDs and Blu-Rays if you think websites are sketchy.
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Lowen SoDium posted:There is an obsolete concept:
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Let me tell you about the X Window System (just X from now on), it was created by researchers at MIT in 1984. And yes, I'm currently using software older than myself. How it works Before X and its predecessor W (yes, such a brilliant naming scheme) applications would be run on a centralised server while you sat in front of a comparatively slow text based terminal. What you typed would be sent over the network to the server, and what it output would be sent back, all the terminal had to do was keep the text in order. When they began working on X, they needed this model to keep working, graphically. Basically what that means is that your local machine now runs an X server which connects with a client on the centralised server that tells your local X server where to draw boxes, arcs and other wonderful stuff from the '80s. This feature is known as network transparency, the ability to run seamlessly over a network as though both the server and client were on the same machine. Now, X itself doesn't have a user interface, it is mearly the system responsible for telling the hardware what to draw, and the client what you've mashed on your keyboard an application. So how do we get an interface?  The '80s, teal me about it. Why, we need a window manager of course! A window manager is responsible for client applications, it allows you to focus, resize and position a particular client. The above screenshot is of twm (1987), or Tom's Window Manager, it isn't what you'd call fully featured, and it doesn't let you launch applications either, you have to do that in a script that is run when the X server starts. To complete the setup a window manager would be used in conjunction with a desktop environment:  This is CDE (1993), the Common Desktop Environment, it combines a file manager, a row of application launchers, the ability to minimise windows to the desktop and switchable workspaces. It was used in conjunction with the Motif Window Manager, but they later merged into one project. Because of the protocol based nature of X, a full 30 years after it was written software such as CDE and twm will still run just fine. How it breaks 3dfx Interactive is to blame. You see, in 1996 they revolutionised the consumer 3d card. Instead of upgrading from a 486 to a Pentium to play Quake a little bit faster you could now install a 3d card, specialised hardware for rendering 3d environments, or in other words hardware acceleration. This leaves X with a bit of a pickle, users want to be able to take advantage of this new fangled hardware acceleration, but the entire system is designed to run over a network connection meaning that there's no real way for clients to have a direct connection to the hardware even if the client and server are running on the same machine. The solution was to break X by introducing DRI (1998), the Direct Rendering Infrastructure. Applications that needed to use accelerated video hardware, for either 3d rendering or video playback would render using the hardware to a buffer that X can read.  Tuxracer was one of the only 3d Linux games for a long long time. Of course, over the years applications and window managers then entire desktop environments began to rely on hardware acceleration for everything, so much so that it's now pointless to run modern desktop environments over a network connection unless you want your 2GHz beast to feel like a 33MHz slug from 25 years ago. This leaves the X Window System with a fundamentally broken architecture that just doesn't suit modern demands. So much more There really is so much more broken, convoluted crap that I could go into, but I've already written so much. At least on it's 30th birthday its set to be replaced by Wayland. If you're interested in hearing more, I'd recommend this video: The real story behind Wayland and X. Also, apologies if your more of a geek than I am and I got any details wrong. I've told the story to the best of my ability 
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How is it possible to have that many screenshots of X and not a single instance of xeyes running? I even see it in your twm directory listing.
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Oh Lord, CDE. My university's UNIX-based data labs used that at least up until 2006; maybe it's still there. It worked, but it was quite laggy since all the processing took place on a central server; we just worked on a thin client.
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OSX still comes with an X server built in. (though it's not enabled by default)
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It’s a shame X is on the decline, because it’s so much better than having to fling bitmaps over the network with VNC.Collateral Damage posted:OSX still comes with an X server built in. (though it's not enabled by default) Apple dropped it in 10.8.
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Platystemon posted:It’s a shame X is on the decline, because it’s so much better than having to fling bitmaps over the network with VNC. These days you're much better off flinging VP8 streams across the internet than bitmaps or X, and with VP9 about ready it's going to take about 50% less bandwidth again. Snowdens Secret posted:How is it possible to have that many screenshots of X and not a single instance of xeyes running? I even see it in your twm directory listing.  Better? Anarchist Mae has a new favorite as of 11:37 on Mar 20, 2014 |
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Ugh. I remember trying to figure out how get the Mac Mini to run X software remotely from an old IRIX server. Eventually we gave up and pulled an old SGI Octane out of storage.
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Measly Twerp posted:These days you're much better off flinging VP8 streams across the internet than bitmaps or X, and with VP9 about ready it's going to take about 50% less bandwidth again. It’s true, Chrome Remote Desktop isn’t bad, but latency is still an issue. Maybe one of the companies eying the home game streaming business (Valve, Gaikai/Sony, OnLive, nVidia), will license their secrets for a remote desktop client. OnLive is kind‐of halfway there with their hosted desktop product, though demos aren’t particularly impressive.
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Full Battle Rattle posted:I want to see some true HD Porn. I want a 1080p blu-ray pornographic movie. I just don't trust porn companies to actually shoot in HD and then master the disc properly, because, let's be honest, I'm from a generation that watched softcore porn because the planets aligned and cinemax came in slightly less blurry one evening. >99.9% of porn consumers do not give a flying gently caress about quality. I'm also leary of any website that sells pornographic dvds. I have a few reels of old porno on 35mm and they are stunning.
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Ron Burgundy posted:I have a few reels of old porno on 35mm and they are stunning. I've seen porno on Laserdisc. I asked the owner what it's like and he said "havent ever flipped it to the other side to see" - immediately wished I hadn't asked. I have had a cheapo AOC 3D monitor that would convert videos into 3D - I fired up a 1080p porno and wow, that razor rash.
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GWBBQ posted:Color e-ink would save schools a fortune on printing and shipping textbooks, not to mention the environmental impact of not throwing out several pounds of paper per student per class per 1-2 years. Electronic gadgets are not more environment friendly than books.
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Hogge Wild posted:Electronic gadgets are not more environment friendly than books. Maybe they can be, if they replace like 50 or 100 books each.
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Hogge Wild posted:Electronic gadgets are not more environment friendly than books. Unless they outlast books by a wide margin. Which is doubtful, for the time being. In time, we might get there though, much like we pulp wood and dry it into paper to print on rather than just carving stuff into wood. I mean take the Drawing board.  Drawing boards were in use well into the 90s at my job because Computer aided design software used to be painfully slow to work with. Then CAD software took over as computers became faster and much less expensive. Today the company I work at has one drawing board for comparing different revisions of old drawings. Jasper Tin Neck has a new favorite as of 20:52 on Mar 20, 2014 |
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If we're posting music videos, does this count? Big Ideas (Don't Get Any) A guy remixes a Radiohead song using old computer equipment. One of the members of Radiohead himself praised it.
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