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mobby_6kl posted:To get out from her earlier than promised, I presume. Still pretty stupid to crank it up like that when he's got her committing insanely illegal surveillance oh his behalf. Maybe he wanted to break it of for good and will never come back, but then he'd have to hope there's absolutely nothing she knows that could help identify him. I think he and Liz's rekindled devotion to eachother had something to do with it too, causing some buried resentment to bubble to the surface, much like how Liz's honeypot schemes got messed up by her feelings this episode too.
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Mar 21, 2014 01:09
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Woden posted:Liz and Phil went to capture some dude but it was a trap by a new man/woman duo. The woman drove off in their car with the dude they wanted to capture ending with Liz and Phil standing over the man from that duo with no transport. I think it was less of a trap and more that the jewish guy had a Mossad tail who intervened when they saw Phillip and Elizabeth chloroforming him and putting him in their trunk. It seemed like an oh poo poo moment for everyone involved.
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Mar 21, 2014 01:10
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Kinda figured they were going to go after the Mossad angle once they hammered home that this guy was devoutly Jewish. So the fight at the end was a pretty awesome payoff for that prediction. Great episode overall.
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Mar 21, 2014 02:04
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It was a special kind of hosed up how Elizabeth gave an exact description of her own rape in order to convince the Navy guy of a fake rape. Effective but hosed up.
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Mar 21, 2014 02:41
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Tortolia posted:It was a special kind of hosed up how Elizabeth gave an exact description of her own rape in order to convince the Navy guy of a fake rape. Yeah, I think that was the reason for her going apeshit on the Mossad guy. The rape story stirred up some anger in her that she needed to release.
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Mar 21, 2014 02:49
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Did people in the early 80s usually wash their hair in the sink? If Martha doesn't have a shower, that might explain how she hasn't noticed that Philip is wearing a wig constantly.
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Mar 21, 2014 03:06
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DivisionPost posted:What's funny is that now they absolutely need a new car. hahaha nice
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OMG BYZANTIUM posted:Did people in the early 80s usually wash their hair in the sink? If Martha doesn't have a shower, that might explain how she hasn't noticed that Philip is wearing a wig constantly. People still do this. It's pretty common.
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Mar 21, 2014 05:21
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Great episode but I'm also confused about the device Martha had. I don't think it's the device that Philip had her hide in Gaad's office, because I'm pretty sure the device she put in his office was a pen, while the device she had in this episode was larger and rectangular, more like a typical voice memo recorder from that period.
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Mar 21, 2014 07:24
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Earwicker posted:Great episode but I'm also confused about the device Martha had. I don't think it's the device that Philip had her hide in Gaad's office, because I'm pretty sure the device she put in his office was a pen, while the device she had in this episode was larger and rectangular, more like a typical voice memo recorder from that period.
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Mar 21, 2014 07:31
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So um, great episode. Was Agent Gaad demoted (well, threatened by one) because of an investigation over the death of the sniper last week or Vladimir from last season?
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Narcissus1916 posted:So um, great episode. Was Agent Gaad demoted (well, threatened by one) because of an investigation over the death of the sniper last week or Vladimir from last season? The sniper. The Americans thought that a KGB agent nearly pulled off a high profile assassination right under their noses and are embarassed about it. Of course we know he isn't KGB and was simply a disturbed conspiracy nut but it's not like there is any benefit to them informing the FBI via Nina that they're mistaken.
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Mar 21, 2014 17:26
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Fun episode. Can someone remind me why they are pissed at their handler? I kind of remember Elizabeth kicking her rear end at the end of last season.
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Hed posted:Fun episode. Can someone remind me why they are pissed at their handler? I kind of remember Elizabeth kicking her rear end at the end of last season. Claudia had them kidnapped and tortured to see if they were a security risk.
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Mar 22, 2014 01:53
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Tortolia posted:It was a special kind of hosed up how Elizabeth gave an exact description of her own rape in order to convince the Navy guy of a fake rape. I found that whole scene in the restaurant really unnerving.
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howe_sam posted:Claudia had them kidnapped and tortured to see if they were a security risk. She was also just generally really unpleasant and rude to them.
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I seriously don't see Martha surviving this season. First, Philip convinces her to stay on as Gaad's secretary because he's useless to her in any other capacity, and now she's likely to be reassigned since it's likely the new guy will want his own secretary. Now she's filling out that form and ominously holding the tape recorder like it's leverage. She should just paint a bullseye on her forehead with lipstick.
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Mar 22, 2014 06:29
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Elizabeth's eyes were so dead in that car handjob scene. "I'm so loving sick of this job."
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Mar 22, 2014 07:20
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I want to know what car they get as a replacement (considering episode 8 is titled 'New Car') I wonder how the FBI will be dragged into this attempted kidnapping, if it is Mossad protecting him, the identity of Phillip and Elizabeth are probably safe from Beeman for a little while longer.
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Gonz posted:Can someone give me a Cliff Notes version of this episode? My loving DVR decided not to record it last night for some reason. Same thing happened to me. The "last episode" thing showed Beeman shooting what I can only assume was a wannabe Reagan assassin? Doesn't seem like I missed much otherwise but I have been away from home for weeks and have no way of watching the missed episode.  I'm really enjoying the new season but I wish they'd stop showing Keri Russell as some physical bad rear end. It looks like a strong wind could knock her over.
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leidend posted:I'm really enjoying the new season but I wish they'd stop showing Keri Russell as some physical bad rear end. It looks like a strong wind could knock her over. To be fair, in that fight she was extraordinarily lucky. Even if she were a world-renowned expert in Combat Sambo (probably what she would've been primarily instructed in), nothing's going to save you when the person you're fighting has 100lb+ of muscle on you, knows how to use it, a longer reach, and probably practices *way* more than you do. I haven't seen either of them sparring to keep sharp, or doing any sort of physical fitness regimens. The only reason that scene happened was to show that she still had 'fight in her.' It sort of reeked of the kind of situations they put the lead character in The Blacklist in to prove that she's a ~strong and independent woman~. leidend posted:Same thing happened to me. The "last episode" thing showed Beeman shooting what I can only assume was a wannabe Reagan assassin? Reagan wasn't at the hotel, I don't think. He was going to shoot his boss' boss or someone high up in the World Bank, but it was all a setup to put Beeman in line for a promotion to capitalize on Nina's access to him. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 11:55 on Mar 23, 2014 |
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BIG HEADLINE posted:To be fair, in that fight she was extraordinarily lucky. Even if she were a world-renowned expert in Combat Sambo (probably what she would've been primarily instructed in), nothing's going to save you when the person you're fighting has 100lb+ of muscle on you, knows how to use it, a longer reach, and probably practices *way* more than you do. I haven't seen either of them sparring to keep sharp, or doing any sort of physical fitness regimens. You know what, I never thought about it before but you bring up a good point. They have been in America for what, 15-16 years now? You would think that, unless they are both masters of Sambo and constantly practice, they are bound to have become really rusty in terms of fighting. Nearly getting killed or having their asses kicked pretty good and having to juggle practicing Sambo regularly to get back in perfect shape and their family lives could be pretty interesting. quote:The only reason that scene happened was to show that she still had 'fight in her.' It sort of reeked of the kind of situations they put the lead character in The Blacklist in to prove that she's a ~strong and independent woman~ Yeah it kind of felt like the warehouse factory, just another scene to showcase that 'Even though she was shot, she's still as badass as ever!'
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BIG HEADLINE posted:I seriously don't see Martha surviving this season. First, Philip convinces her to stay on as Gaad's secretary because he's useless to her in any other capacity, and now she's likely to be reassigned since it's likely the new guy will want his own secretary. Now she's filling out that form and ominously holding the tape recorder like it's leverage. She should just paint a bullseye on her forehead with lipstick. She will disappear soon. Philip has no other reasonable course of action. I have no idea why he agreed to that sham marriage. It had to unravel at some point. I think he knew that it would, and that he'd just deal with the situation when it happened. But he could have stretched the operation further without such a dangerous play. Twee as gently caress posted:Yeah it kind of felt like the warehouse factory, just another scene to showcase that 'Even though she was shot, she's still as badass as ever!' Her fighting methods are all wrong for someone her size. She should be using joint locks and such, using other people's strength against them instead of throwing haymakers. (The  over pretend fighting is now over.)
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Dr_Strangelove posted:She will disappear soon. Philip has no other reasonable course of action. I guess he thought he couldn't get her to bug Gaad's office without that level of commitment, but yeah it seemed pretty sloppy, I don't remember the wedding scene that well but he did meet Martha's parents and she probably has other relatives and friends not to mention her FBI coworkers who will be rather concerned about her inevitable disappearance. I guess he can just make it look like she was the victim of some random mugging gone wrong or something like I think they tried to do with Chris, but they had to sacrifice someone over that mess.
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I wonder if Liz & Phil'll ever come across Bob Hanssen or Aldrich Ames, they were both knocking around DC in the early 80s selling secrets. Stick a bit of history in this drama.
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IMO I think it would be really dumb to have any actual historical figure be a character on the show. I love it when episodes revolve around historical events like the Reagan assassination attempt or the Polish Solidarity movement, but having specific people from that time showing up would kind of take it in a silly direction. Though I'm sure they'll reference characters like Hanssen. In fact I think that air force guy with the gambling problem in season 1 was meant to be a sort of stand in for that type. The death of Brezhnev will be a big topic soon I'm sure since I think the show is at some point in late 81 or early 82 now? That will probably cause some sort of shakeup. Maybe Arkady will be promoted or sent off somewhere and that annoying new guy with the family connections (Oleg?) will become Nina's new boss. Earwicker fucked around with this message at 16:25 on Mar 25, 2014 |
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They handled it pretty well last season with the plot involving bugging Caspar Weinberger's house.Earwicker posted:The death of Brezhnev will be a big topic soon I'm sure since I think the show is at some point in late 81 or early 82 now? That will probably cause some sort of shakeup. Maybe Arkady will be promoted or sent off somewhere and that annoying new guy with the family connections (Oleg?) will become Nina's new boss. Yeah there was an offhand line from Arkady in the last episode about Andropov and how he thinks he'll be general secretary one day. Of course the funny thing is it'd been well known in the government by then that Brezhnev was in piss poor shape, and a faction within the Secretariat had been running the country for a while, with Andropov pushing to be Brezhnev's successor instead of Mikhail Suslov, who also died in early '82. I don't think the writing's that deep, but it'd be something if it was Arkady intimating to Oleg that he had some higher level knowledge of what was happening back in Moscow in response to Oleg using family connections to finagle a higher security clearance. Alec Bald Snatch fucked around with this message at 03:28 on Mar 26, 2014 |
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205 Promo (that you may have already seen) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX43H8oZ_04
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Haven't watched the promo but I am going to guess that Martha isn't gonna make it past tonight's episode, or maybe next week. Oh, picking up exactly where we left off, I see.
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Dr_Strangelove posted:The new handler is hot "The Center wants you happy. I want you happy." Yeeeeeah, that affair is happening.
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Mar 27, 2014 03:17
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Clark's cover identity now includes autism.
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Mar 27, 2014 03:17
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See ya, Martha!
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Mar 27, 2014 03:25
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Holy awkward, ahahahahaha.
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KGB sex training
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Ewwww. This episode is really going for all kinds of awkward.
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