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swickles posted:I don't get the puppet episode hate. Like, it wasn't joke heavy I get that, but it wasn't outright bad. Also, puppets! Its the only episode of Community I didnt even finish. I've watched Seasons 1 and 2 probably 8 times, S3 maybe 5, S4 I watched all episodes at least once, S5 I've watched them all twice. Puppet episode? Got about 10 minutes in and shut it off. Havent looked back. 
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Republican Vampire posted:Season Four's cargo cult approach to recreating Harmon's version of Community. Nailed it.
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Republican Vampire posted:Alan is the evil lawyer played by Rob Corddry. He's the one who cost Jeff his job. Oh. I thought there was a hangover inspired character that I'd utterly forgot about.
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Mar 23, 2014 08:33
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swickles posted:I have never played Dungeons and Dragons before, is the way they play in the show representative in any way of the actual game? I mean, I know there are some liberties to create the strife like Pierce going rogue and Hank trying to sabotage it and what not. Also, does it require a crazy amount of knowledge to get a foothold into? The show actually makes it seem like an easy and fun game. I never got into D&D mainly because it seemed like you need an encyclopedic knowledge of the game and to find enough people with the same knowledge. Dungeons and Dragons is an incredibly terrible game. I initially wrote more words but it really breaks down to that
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twistedmentat posted:The vampire hunters are looking for you make a roll for stealth Were you playing with Vin Diesel? Or did you just not consider kicking his rear end? Roll for....something. IDK role playing games.
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Sounds like he was playing with Dan Harmon's girlfriend. i take off my backpack and tie a rope to it and i shoot TWO arrows at my own feet and GUYS WE SHOULD PUT ON A SHOW Illinois Smith fucked around with this message at 09:24 on Mar 23, 2014 |
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Illinois Smith posted:Sounds like he was playing with Dan Harmon's girlfriend. I shoot two arrows!
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Frostwerks posted:Were you playing with Vin Diesel? Or did you just not consider kicking his rear end? Roll for....something. IDK role playing games. No, we played with a guy who was really good friends with our DM, but everyone else hated, and the DM would always "are you sure you want to do that?" and the guy would be "yep!". He thought it was hilarious to do poo poo like that all the time.
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twistedmentat posted:No, we played with a guy who was really good friends with our DM, but everyone else hated, and the DM would always "are you sure you want to do that?" and the guy would be "yep!". He thought it was hilarious to do poo poo like that all the time. You can't put obvious traps in a game and not expect people to want to see what they do. 
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David Cross just wanted to play a game without being railroaded. The worst DMs are the ones that have already decided how everything is going to go before the game even starts.
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Mar 23, 2014 15:24
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I think it is weird that Abed is the only one rolling dice. Players are supposed to roll their own dice.
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Mar 23, 2014 15:33
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Remedial Chaos Theory already showed us Abed has an obsession with dice rolls and their consequences. He's probably trying to control that as much as possible (yes I am aware Advance Dungeons and Dragons came before it).
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swickles posted:I have never played Dungeons and Dragons before, is the way they play in the show... I'm glad you asked this, because I actually just spent 10 minutes researching D&D and how it is actually played before I hopped into this thread. I was also toying with the idea of looking for a newb-friendly group to try it out with, and was curious how close to realistic that was. Thanks for the info, guys
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Illinois Smith posted:Sounds like he was playing with Dan Harmon's girlfriend.
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Steve Vader posted:I think it is weird that Abed is the only one rolling dice. Players are supposed to roll their own dice. And their characters are pre-generated and picked at random. The study group kinda doesn't give a poo poo.
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McGann posted:I'm glad you asked this, because I actually just spent 10 minutes researching D&D and how it is actually played before I hopped into this thread. I was also toying with the idea of looking for a newb-friendly group to try it out with, and was curious how close to realistic that was. I prefer Paizo's Pathfinder system. It's based on the D&D 3.5 system with some modifications and I think it's a great system overall. Also, the entirety of it is available for free online. http://paizo.com/prd/ http://www.d20pfsrd.com/
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Oz posted:I prefer Paizo's Pathfinder system. It's based on the D&D 3.5 system with some modifications and I think it's a great system overall. Also, the entirety of it is available for free online. Uh... Republican Vampire posted:Dungeons and Dragons is an incredibly terrible game. I initially wrote more words but it really breaks down to that This goes triple for Pathfinder. But anyway, anyone interested in rpgs should check out the D&D (Dice & Drama) subforum of Games, we talk about all kinds of games and you're sure to find something that looks cool if you want to try something out.
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I've always loved the idea of DnD, but never the kind of people who play it. So I'd just end up reading the rulebooks and faffing about. 
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nutranurse posted:I've always loved the idea of DnD, but never the kind of people who play it. So I'd just end up reading the rulebooks and faffing about. "Geek" culture has become mainstream enough that it shouldn't be too difficult to convince people to play a few sessions using a module as a guide. I mean, if you can convince your friends to watch Community, it doesn't take much more effort to convince them to play Dungeons and Dragons or any other role-playing game. Guide them through character creation (or just high level it with them and make the characters yourself), explain the basic mechanics of what they can and can't do, and give them a d20 + whatever dice they use for damage. Only one person actually NEEDS to know what all those books of numbers and  mean, the rest can just wing it with the power of imagination.
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Last Chance posted:I'd probably get tarred and feathered at Harmontown for saying this, but the DnD parts of Harmon's podcast are the hardest for me to get through. It was fun for about 6 episodes but I can barely sit through the drunken DnD sessions anymore. I think I'm behind by almost 20 episodes now because of that. 100% agree. I used to love those segments, but now I usually just turn the podcast off when they start because it's so boring. Sometimes I'll keep listening if they have a guest. Matt Gourley's D&D segment was AMAZING. But other times it's like when Doug Benson has someone on who doesn't give a poo poo about the Leonard Maltin game and constantly has to have the rules explained. Also it usually has the most Erin and she is just not entertaining in the least. Sweet girl, but baaad podcaster.
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I don't know, the one where Dan yelled at a skeleton for half an hour because it threatened him was pretty funny, as are any segments in which Jeff gets angry with Erin. Oh, and Dan as Iced Tea from two weeks back was pretty good.
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Irish Joe posted:I don't know, the one where Dan yelled at a skeleton for half an hour because it threatened him was pretty funny, as are any segments in which Jeff gets angry with Erin. Oh, and Dan as Iced Tea from two weeks back was pretty good. I thought last week's with the bag was pretty good too.
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Steve Vader posted:I think it is weird that Abed is the only one rolling dice. Players are supposed to roll their own dice. Actually in many groups and games, players don't roll their own dice. My books are currently in storage, but if I'm remembering right, at least one edition of AD&D and the original D&D were written based on the assumption that players would only roll during character creation, which is why generating stats mostly involves d6s. The assumption was that the only set of gaming dice a group would have is the one that came in the box. More recent editions recommend that the DM roll things like search and spot rolls because failure would tip players off. nutranurse posted:I've always loved the idea of DnD, but never the kind of people who play it. So I'd just end up reading the rulebooks and faffing about. D&D is a terrible game. Play something fun like Geist, Fiasco or Paranoia instead. Fiasco's probably the easiest one to get normal people to play because it's got a bit of a party game atmosphere going on and the genre (It's inspired by Coen Brothers films) is an easier sell.
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Djarum posted:I thought last week's with the bag was pretty good too. Welcome to Bill Mardigan's, land of smoking, riddles and horseshoes!
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Republican Vampire posted:Dungeons and Dragons is an incredibly terrible game. I initially wrote more words but it really breaks down to that You must have lovely friends to play it with, because the one game of it that I've ever played was a lot of fun. swickles posted:I have never played Dungeons and Dragons before, is the way they play in the show representative in any way of the actual game? I mean, I know there are some liberties to create the strife like Pierce going rogue and Hank trying to sabotage it and what not. Also, does it require a crazy amount of knowledge to get a foothold into? The show actually makes it seem like an easy and fun game. I never got into D&D mainly because it seemed like you need an encyclopedic knowledge of the game and to find enough people with the same knowledge. You definitely don't need an encyclopedic knowledge of the game at all, just a good DM. (And the internet helps for looking stuff up nowadays.) And Pierce going rogue definitely isn't a liberty, that can happen in a D&D game. We had one of our party members murder another party member in his sleep. (But he was stealthy, and hid the body, and he got away with it... even though all of the players knew what he had done, their characters had no idea.)
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Republican Vampire posted:
Or, if people want the whole fantasy swords and magic experience, there's Dungeon World which takes all the fun bits of D&D, and cuts out all the sperg. Classes come as playbooks, creating a character takes seconds, and you can be up and running in about half an hour if you're new. It's an indie game, so getting hardcopies of the book is tough right now, but you can find the pdf for 10bux (I think) and dice are like another 5bux at your local game store. Much like the episode, you can totally run with one set of dice and just share them between players.
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thexerox123 posted:You must have lovely friends to play it with, because the one game of it that I've ever played was a lot of fun. No, I've just played other games that are better mechanically and have cooler premises. D&D's overcomplicated for the sake of being overcomplicated, and Monte Cook is a huge dick who actively set out to gently caress with new players while working on third edition by implementing build traps. Seriously, there are trap options in it just so that min/maxing dorks can be "rewarded" for being min/maxing dorks. Next might be okay, I guess? Haven't played it but I hear it's p. cool.
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Republican Vampire posted:D&D's overcomplicated for the sake of being overcomplicated, and Monte Cook is a huge dick who actively set out to gently caress with new players while working on third edition by implementing build traps. Seriously, there are trap options in it just so that min/maxing dorks can be "rewarded" for being min/maxing dorks. If you're not playing with min/maxing dorks, how would that effect you?
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thexerox123 posted:If you're not playing with min/maxing dorks, how would that effect you? Because the traps are still built into the feat, spell and equipment systems?
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Republican Vampire posted:Because the traps are still built into the feat, spell and equipment systems? Fair enough. If I recall, our DM avoided 3e because it wasn't newbie-friendly, I seem to recall him talking about how they ruined the feat system... I think we were playing 2 or 2.5.
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thexerox123 posted:Fair enough. If I recall, our DM avoided 3e because it wasn't newbie-friendly, I seem to recall him talking about how they ruined the feat system... I think we were playing 2 or 2.5. AD&D 2? It's also got some problems. Anything other than combat and dungeon diving is pretty crudely bolted onto what is still, in its heart, a war game so you get Non-Weapon Proficiencies which are nonsensical or redundant. Plus it's got weird-rear end counter-intuitive mechanics like THAC0. But it's more fun than 3/3.5.
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Dragon Warrior was a cool series of Nintendo Entertainment System games. gently caress you, metal slimes/babbles.
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Irish Joe posted:Welcome to Bill Mardigan's, land of smoking, riddles and horseshoes! JESUS CHRIST! Don't you ever...EVER.... Do that again! I poo poo my pants! I just poo poo all inside my pants!
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Haha, holy poo poo, edition wars in the Community thread. Since we have reached this new low, might as well add my two cents. If you want to play a D&D game that's basically a complicated board game where you can chokeslam a dragon, play D&D 4E. If you want to interrogate hobgoblins and don't care about any fiddly combat poo poo, play Dungeon World.
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Rexides posted:If you want to interrogate hobgoblins and don't care about any fiddly combat poo poo, play Dungeon World. And punch them in the heart!
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Republican Vampire posted:AD&D 2? It's also got some problems. Anything other than combat and dungeon diving is pretty crudely bolted onto what is still, in its heart, a war game so you get Non-Weapon Proficiencies which are nonsensical or redundant. Plus it's got weird-rear end counter-intuitive mechanics like THAC0. But it's more fun than Gas Leak Edition.
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I liked the old Shadowrun, where statistically a common housecat had a very good chance to kill you with a single blow.
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Error 404 posted:And punch them in the heart! Whatever it is that they were playing in this episode was closer to Dungeon World than any edition of D&D.
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