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What happens if you use a hemalurgic spike as a metalmind? What if it's a spike of the ferruchemic power you're using it for, maybe another kind of compounding?
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Mar 26, 2014 18:21
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Xemloth posted:What happens if you use a hemalurgic spike as a metalmind? What if it's a spike of the ferruchemic power you're using it for, maybe another kind of compounding? Dream bigger. What happens if you allomantically burn a hemalurgic spike that you've invested with feruchemical energy? 
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Mar 26, 2014 18:55
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AllTerrineVehicle posted:Dream bigger. Harmony smacks you down for being stupid.
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Mar 26, 2014 19:07
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Wolpertinger posted:I still want to know how the mechanical Allomancy from the southern continent works. Batteries are basically just two types of metal sharing electrons with each other. Perhaps having a coppermind instead of regular copper results in some sort of super battery. Or maybe it's even simpler, like using a misting's super powers to pedal-power a machine or generator or something. "The allomantical revolution triggered rapid growth and prosperity, until it all came crashing down when we reached peak pewter."
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Mar 26, 2014 19:07
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What if the secret to putting Adonalsium back together is like what Shai had to do with the Emperor's soul? I'm betting that if you just threw the shards together that the shards with the strongest emotions would win, so you have to be careful with the process or else you just end up with a hateful god who only cares about dominating everything.
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Mar 26, 2014 19:38
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Democratic Pirate posted:What if the secret to putting Adonalsium back together is like what Shai had to do with the Emperor's soul? I'm betting that if you just threw the shards together that the shards with the strongest emotions would win, so you have to be careful with the process or else you just end up with a hateful god who only cares about dominating everything. Probably - Harmony was nearly destroyed by the conflicting intents until he managed to carefully balance them, which wasn't a guaranteed thing. This may explain why more shards/odium haven't made a power grab either and just destroy the other shard. I have a feeling that Honor + Odium wouldn't balance out anywhere near as well as Preservation and Ruin.
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Mar 26, 2014 20:20
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Xemloth posted:What happens if you use a hemalurgic spike as a metalmind? What if it's a spike of the ferruchemic power you're using it for, maybe another kind of compounding? Steel inquisitors actually use their spikes as metalminds! It works quite well.
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Mar 26, 2014 20:33
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JagGator posted:Batteries are basically just two types of metal sharing electrons with each other. Perhaps having a coppermind instead of regular copper results in some sort of super battery. Forget pewter, have any combination of 2 Steelshots/Lurchers pushing/pulling a big magnet through some coiled wires. Suddenly, electricity! Could also be done with a iron feruchemist increasing/decreasing weight. (get heavy- push down piston. get light - piston goes up).
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Mar 26, 2014 20:45
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Lobsterpillar posted:Forget pewter, have any combination of 2 Steelshots/Lurchers pushing/pulling a big magnet through some coiled wires. Suddenly, electricity! Hell, the iron feruchemist would even be more efficient, since you wouldn't need to spend metal to get the effect. You just have a dude sitting there, probably reading or playing a game or something, getting heavy and light, back and forth. Forever. ))<>((
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Mar 26, 2014 21:39
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Kruller posted:Hell, the iron feruchemist would even be more efficient, since you wouldn't need to spend metal to get the effect. You just have a dude sitting there, probably reading or playing a game or something, getting heavy and light, back and forth. Forever. ))<>(( Or just have a... whatever metal is heat. Brass? Whatever. Use him as one side of a thermocouple.
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Mar 26, 2014 22:51
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Tunicate posted:Or just have a... whatever metal is heat. Brass? Whatever. Use him as one side of a thermocouple. Also, the feruchemists who can store breath and food are natures astronauts. The iron would be pretty efficient, but I get the feeling they'd 'use' more stored weight than they gained as the piston goes up. But you know, in shifts it would be fine. And also, as astronauts iron feruchemists would have some pretty weird/useful zero gravity interactions. Especially if they could also pull on metal to stop them flying away from the space station/ship.
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Mar 26, 2014 23:07
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Just turn on weight absorption so your ship becomes truly weightless, and it'd be super easy to launch. Then, when in space, you can do almost zero energy launches because you can render your ship's weight nothing at any point in time, such as during initial speed gains. Also, if you have a big enough feruchemical battery, or some other weightless process, you could go the speed of light with 'realistic' (haha) attainable energy usage. edit: It could also create some amazing weapons, if you temporarily removed the weight, got it moving to like 99% the speed of light, then put the weight back and have it slam into something. It could also be used to create unlimited energy, since you need substantially less energy to get it moving than it puts out when it hits.
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Mar 27, 2014 01:30
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nucleicmaxid posted:Just turn on weight absorption so your ship becomes truly weightless, and it'd be super easy to launch. Mistborn Effect? If I remember right that's basically exactly what Element Zero did in Mass Effect. Also, just started Words of Radiance, and it took a bit to get going but I really like it so far. This might be the first "Gigantic endless fantasy series" that I finish since the Dark Tower.
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Mar 27, 2014 01:40
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I'm pretty sure iron ferrings can only store/draw on their own weight, not that of other objects. Maybe if you created an alloy of iron and atium, since an alloy of gold and atium produces the same effect as gold but on external objects instead of yourself. Though that would imply that 'atium' is actually an alloy of electrum and the real, pure god-metal, so who knows. Edit: Though now that I think about it, atium/malatium 'externalise' the allomantic effects of electrum/gold, while producing totally new ferruchemical effects, and most other allomantic powers already work on external objects anyway, so who knows what other atium alloys might do. Mygna fucked around with this message at 02:15 on Mar 27, 2014 |
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Mar 27, 2014 01:47
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Lobsterpillar posted:Also, the feruchemists who can store breath and food are natures astronauts. The piston could be designed to fall at his normal weight, making the actual "use" of the energy unnecessary. Breaking physics is fun.
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Mar 27, 2014 02:15
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Mygna posted:I'm pretty sure iron ferrings can only store/draw on their own weight, not that of other objects. Maybe if you created an alloy of iron and atium, since an alloy of gold and atium produces the same effect as gold but on external objects instead of yourself. Though that would imply that 'atium' is actually an alloy of electrum and the real, pure god-metal, so who knows. Atium alloys produce 'various expanded mental and temporal effects'. Lerasium alloys include 'various expanded physical and enhancement effects, including the creation of mistings'. I think the idea for the ship is to make it all into one magitek hemalurgic fabrial thing.
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Mar 27, 2014 02:16
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Creating a misting with Lerasium sounds like such a huge waste - I wonder if you get some exceptionally potent misting, like an instant Savant. Probably. Would also give interesting reasons to use Lerasium for more than just 'more mistborn' and allow more interesting uses of powers (Mistings have to be more clever with their one ability than mistborn ever do). I admit I'm curious what the other 'physical and enhancement effects' that aren't Misting creation could be. Please, Sazed, make a ton of lerasium and atium for the main characters of Trilogy 2/3 for the sake of of dumb fantasy science  .I also think I saw a Q&A somewhere that a lerasium/atium alloy would probably cause something along the nature of a nuclear explosion. 
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Mar 27, 2014 02:27
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Clearly the obvious long-term solution for mistborn in space is for genetic engineering to take hold, and they breed a biological mistborn spaceship.
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Mar 27, 2014 11:51
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rafikki posted:Clearly the obvious long-term solution for mistborn in space is for genetic engineering to take hold, and they breed a biological mistborn spaceship. Mistborn Zerg 
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Mar 27, 2014 14:34
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A regular person is able to burn Lerasium to become a Mistborn. Supposedly a Mistborn burning Lerasium produces an entirely different result. I'm curious if a regular person would be capable of burning Atium to become something other than a Mistborn?
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Mar 27, 2014 16:13
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I don't think they burn the Lerasium, or if they do it's because metal burning is Leras' magic. I think Atium is just poisonous to someone without the ability to burn it. Maybe they can eventually create synthetic Lerasium and make it like a retro-virus.
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Mar 27, 2014 17:59
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I think a normal person burning atium won't have anything special happen, atium used in hemalurgy is apparently very potent though.
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Mar 27, 2014 18:11
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Lift needs to get feruchemy so she can fuel her awesomeness beyond what her body could naturally store.
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Mar 27, 2014 18:55
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Screw that, Lift needs Breath. At LEAST enough for her to actually belch rainbows.
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Mar 27, 2014 19:06
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Lift needs to go away and never be heard from again. 
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Mar 27, 2014 20:14
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Lift needs to end up in the urban fantasy mistborn series. Because she's so '80s.
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Mar 27, 2014 20:15
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nucleicmaxid posted:Lift needs to go away and never be heard from again. hate to break it to you but iirc she's a confirmed major POV for the second half of the Stormlight Archive
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Mar 27, 2014 21:06
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I know. 
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Mar 27, 2014 21:39
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Isn't there also a gap of a few years between book 5 and 6? If her character voice stays at 13 while the character is 18-20ish, then we'll really have hit anime territory.
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Mar 27, 2014 22:14
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Democratic Pirate posted:Isn't there also a gap of a few years between book 5 and 6? If her character voice stays at 13 while the character is 18-20ish, then we'll really have hit anime territory. in all honesty I'm expecting her to turn into a legitimately cool character (she is already imo) as she gets a little more serious
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Mar 27, 2014 22:37
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She's actually like 11-12, right? 1.1 Roshar years to 1 Earthyear?
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Mar 27, 2014 23:41
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Tunicate posted:She's actually like 11-12, right? 1.1 Roshar years to 1 Earthyear? I thought it was 1 roshan year = 1.1 earthyear actually.
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Mar 27, 2014 23:46
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Lift is basically early Vin, did anyone else notice? It's not like Vin didn't turn out cool a book or two later. I quite liked her.
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Mar 27, 2014 23:47
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Walh Hara posted:I thought it was 1 roshan year = 1.1 earthyear actually. Maybe? I can never keep that straight.
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Mar 27, 2014 23:52
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I googled it, apparantly there were already some fans who calculated everything, see think link: http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/5662-list-ages-of-stormlight-characters/ . For reference, it claims Lift is 14 in earth years.
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Mar 27, 2014 23:56
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Walh Hara posted:I thought it was 1 roshan year = 1.1 earthyear actually. 500 / 365 = 1.3698630137 Earth-years in a Roshar-year. Edit: I hadn't heard the part about hours-per-day and minutes-per-hour. That puts you closer to right, actually: (500*20*58) / (365*24*60) = 1.10350076104 Jorenko fucked around with this message at 00:05 on Mar 28, 2014 |
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Mar 28, 2014 00:02
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thespaceinvader posted:Lift is basically early Vin, did anyone else notice? It's not like Vin didn't turn out cool a book or two later. Except she's not like Vin at all. Vin didn't sound like an after school. Cartoon character.
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Mar 28, 2014 00:06
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Lift is going to be awful as a main character, because Sanderson will try to write her as funny and/or witty, which is a terrible thing because Sanderson is not funny and/or witty. Like, someone really needs to be explain to him that he just isn't funny. He just doesn't seem to get it, since he keeps trying in every book. It's like he's under the impression that he's funny and continues trying to be so in his writing, but it's always so detrimental to its quality. The quality of his work would improve drastically if an editor would just explain to him and make sure he understands that his "dad humor" just isn't funny. Not "not funny in an ironic way", just straight up not remotely funny in any remotely interesting way and that he should stop trying to be something that he isn't. Has he ever been asked in an interview if he understands that no-one finds his humourous characters humourous, or thinks his witty characters are witty?
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Mar 28, 2014 00:20
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I like Lift so you're wrong.
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Mar 28, 2014 00:24
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Shakugan posted:Has he ever been asked in an interview if he understands that no-one finds his humourous characters humourous, or thinks his witty characters are witty? Wit's witty shut up 
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