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Surprised more cars didn't get caught in that. The gently caress, Power?
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Holy poo poo, gently caress Will Power.
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Mar 30, 2014 22:02
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Lades and Gentlemen, the Verizon IndyCar Series
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Mar 30, 2014 22:04
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Will Power's gotta get a penalty for that; or I lose all trust in indycar.
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Mar 30, 2014 22:04
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when did rolling restarts become something drivers have no idea how to do
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Mar 30, 2014 22:05
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Power deserves a penalty, mos. def.
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Mar 30, 2014 22:07
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This is the first modern Indycar race I've bothered to watch but Will Power is already my least favorite person
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Mar 30, 2014 22:08
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 Oh Indycar, I've missed you so much.
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Mar 30, 2014 22:09
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Moxie Omen posted:This is the first modern Indycar race I've bothered to watch but Will Power is already my least favorite person Will Power can sometimes own. Other times he's an intolerable rear end in a top hat. Today he's the latter.
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Mar 30, 2014 22:09
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Cannot Find Server posted:Will Power can sometimes own. Other times he's a wanker
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Mar 30, 2014 22:10
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There talking about how he's "bringing them slowly to the Green" but he's clearly slowing down on the front straight before the restart zone. They shouldn't have given them the Green if they weren't in the restart zone; but its definitely all Will's fault...
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Mar 30, 2014 22:10
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Uh, Hawksworth sounds nothing like Mansell you loving idiot goober. Who are these morons?
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Mar 30, 2014 22:18
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Americans? 
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Mar 30, 2014 22:21
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I'm kinda pissed that they are apparently not penalizing Power Then again, if they did it'd give the win to RHR so whatever I guess
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Mar 30, 2014 22:30
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Clownshoes restart aside, this was a really good race.
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Mar 30, 2014 22:36
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Yeah right penalize the title sponsor car, doubtful.
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Mar 30, 2014 22:37
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gently caress Penske, gently caress Power. I don't think he will get a penalty because the restart rule is sort of gray on the situation. But that doesn't make it any less of an rear end in a top hat move.
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Mar 30, 2014 22:38
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If he did go, IndyCar would probably penalize him for going before the restart zone, because IndyCar. edit: fuckin  Helio
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Mar 30, 2014 22:41
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Scott Dixon was very supportive of Power. That surprised me.
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Mar 30, 2014 22:55
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Andretti looked really weak today. outside of RHR, it was not a good start for them. I think just a lack of cautions kind of messed the field up a bit. It needed bunched up quite a bit earlier, but alas there was just some good clean racing up until the stunt power pulled. But I mean, it's what makes ICS so good. You can't just go "NASCAR" on everything and throw phantom penalties to ensure you have a classic finish. Sometimes you get duds. It comes with the territory. I do think the field is quite strong. Smaller than recent years? Yeah. But it feels like everyone has a shot at winning a race any given weekend. I think the only two you could really kind of go "meh" to would be Saavadra and potentially Huertas
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Mar 30, 2014 23:56
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FuzzySkinner posted:Andretti looked really weak today. Even Saavedra did okay today with an 11th place finish.
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Mar 31, 2014 00:50
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George Zimmer posted:Even Saavedra did okay today with an 11th place finish. Who knew that he's actually pretty fast as long as he doesn't have a brain fade? I feel like just about everyone in the field save for The rookies and him can plausibly win a race this season.
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Mar 31, 2014 01:18
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Sato fell off pretty hard.
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Mar 31, 2014 01:21
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FuzzySkinner posted:Andretti looked really weak today. There's another way of looking at it - the standards have got so high it's remarkable they went so long without a single incident.
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Mar 31, 2014 01:22
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Really, we were just a Kimball brain fade (and stalling the car) away from an all green race. Pretty impressive when you see that SiPag visor cam and I can seriously barely see poo poo.
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Mar 31, 2014 02:46
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Can anybody re-post the image from the 1970's of Robin Miller holding the pit board? I have a t-shirt to make. vv 
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Mar 31, 2014 03:48
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Minto Took posted:Can anybody re-post the image from the 1970's of Robin Miller holding the pit board? I have a t-shirt to make. Ta-da. 
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Mar 31, 2014 04:37
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FuzzySkinner posted:Andretti looked really weak today. Hinch had something going on that I didn't catch, they mentioned it in the broadcast - boost limit? Rev limit? I'm almost willing to give Power the benefit of the doubt - as long as he really wasn't slowing further, if they threw the green before he was technically allowed to go then that's as much on ICS as it is on him. Oh well. We're racing again! 
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Mar 31, 2014 04:49
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Hinch had an electronics problem that was causing the engine to hit the limiter too early. Something like that.
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Mar 31, 2014 05:35
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22 cars is not that bad of a grid tbh. Ideally I'd want 27-28 but the racing is good so who cares.
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Mar 31, 2014 05:46
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animeliker posted:22 cars is not that bad of a grid tbh. Ideally I'd want 27-28 but the racing is good so who cares. One of the things Mark Miles and Derrick Walker has to work on is to get more people involved. How does one get more teams involved though, is the question. I think perhaps the return of Cosworth, and some ability to connect drivers/teams with sponsorships would help quite a bit. I do think you want quanity over quality at this point though. Better we have a field like this, then say a field full of people like Milka Duno, Marty Roth or Dr. Jack Miller.
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Mar 31, 2014 06:26
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FuzzySkinner posted:One of the things Mark Miles and Derrick Walker has to work on is to get more people involved. I watched the NASCAR race live and St Pete on DVR today (my folks were visiting and my dad is old). The 16th driver in a 22-car IndyCar street race field is much more competitive than the 31st driver in a 43-car NASCAR race or whoever is trundling around at the back of the pack in F1.
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Mar 31, 2014 06:45
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skaboomizzy posted:I watched the NASCAR race live and St Pete on DVR today (my folks were visiting and my dad is old). The 16th driver in a 22-car IndyCar street race field is much more competitive than the 31st driver in a 43-car NASCAR race or whoever is trundling around at the back of the pack in F1. It's also nostalgia haze for me; I was a CART fan when I was really young but in hindsight the back-markers in those times were pretty bad; like Arnd Meier and Shigeaki Hattori. It seemed like Meier was always in dead last.
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Mar 31, 2014 07:12
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The ideal scenario is that you get around 28 seats for the regular season, and 33 seats for the "Triple Crown" events. Going more ideal, the "Backmarker" seats should be pretty much for GP2/GP3/Indy Lights champs/winners. Guys who show quite a bit of promise, but Ganassi/Andretti/Penske probably wouldn't take a swing on until they have some results under their belt. You don't want those seats filled by people who you know...suck. Hawksworth, and Munoz are great additions to the field. The former impressed me quite a bit today (prior to the accident with Marco), and the ladder was pretty fantastic last year. The series is at a point where the ability to win seems to solely reside on good luck, whether the car is set up well, and if the driver is talented enough. In theory? That should allow a lot more of the cream to rise to the top if everything is done correctly.
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Mar 31, 2014 07:32
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I'm not blaming Hawksworth for that happening.
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Mar 31, 2014 07:44
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animeliker posted:I'm not blaming Hawksworth for that happening. Seriously, if he was getting told "green green green", he did what every race driver does and stood on it. The problem is that people in front of him weren't.
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Mar 31, 2014 14:44
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In my eyes the restart issue was 100% caused by the flag stand. If you watch the video they're waving the green flag before the leader reached the acceleration zone. As a result I'm sure every spotter was saying "green green green" too early which made the accordion effect that much worse. It didn't help that Will Power was going slower than normal before the acceleration zone, but that restart looked more like an iRacing restart than an IndyCar restart. But perhaps the best moment was when Helio called Power a wanker. Also, Will Power posted:"The thing to me was Helio was getting out of line. That's when I lifted off the throttle. Why are you getting out of line? Are you going to go like you did last year and jump-start completely and get the lead that way? I wasn't going to let that happen. I wasn't even in the zone, so it did not matter. He got out here, he's going to do his thing, jump the start, he was getting out of line, I was going to make it obvious by lifting a little. Then I just went.
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KingShibby posted:In my eyes the restart issue was 100% caused by the flag stand. I'm starting to lean in this direction too. First impression was that Power was being an idiot, but I didn't know about acceleration zones being a thing. I'm glad Indycar didn't punish Power for what was ultimately their own gently caress-up.
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Couple of books on the 500 are coming out soon http://www.amazon.com/Beast-Jade-Gurss/dp/1937747336/ref=zg_bs_16606_92 - Story of the 1994 race, focusing on the Penske team and their 1000hp engine http://www.amazon.com/dp/1250017777/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=SKZFGP7L5KC6&coliid=IF1B701IOZ6KF - The ill-fated 1964 race
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