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Mills
Jun 13, 2003

Doesn't help when GI goes off.

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bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
That's why he's an 18th man

Mills
Jun 13, 2003

Hearing Bulldogs/Fifita contract is dead.

iajanus
Aug 17, 2004

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I've thought that was a good idea before - have an 18th man who can only be used to replace a concussed person who isn't allowed to come back.

Jono C
Mar 28, 2007

Adam is a wonderful example of how a player should go about his business in the NRL

Mills posted:

Hearing Bulldogs/Fifita contract is dead.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/canterbury-bulldogs-back-out-of-andrew-fifita-deal-20140331-zqp0b.html?rand=1396240247981

Seems odd, maybe after he made noises about regretting it and wanting to go to union they didn't want him anymore.

iajanus
Aug 17, 2004

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Time for the Tigers to buy him for even more and then watch him turn to poo poo. I call it our Blair strategy.

Jono C
Mar 28, 2007

Adam is a wonderful example of how a player should go about his business in the NRL
You'll need to send Tedesco and Brooks to the Sharks to even things up.

Red_Museum
Apr 17, 2011

Shredded Hen
Probably a good move by the Bulldogs with that rugby talk and saying he regretted signing the deal almost immediately.

Ewar Woowar
Feb 25, 2007

Smorgasbord posted:

Re the concussion rule, I agree there should be an 18th man who can only be used as a replacement if someone is ruled out for concussion.

This could be hilariously abused.

And by hilarious I mean Rugby League players pretending to be concussed in order to get fresh legs on the pitch

iajanus
Aug 17, 2004

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Ewar Woowar posted:

This could be hilariously abused.

And by hilarious I mean Rugby League players pretending to be concussed in order to get fresh legs on the pitch

Hence why it needs to be policed as unreplacable and limited to one. A while back I worked out a decent system they could use with some mates but we were quite drunk and I can't remember what the details were. Just assume it was awesome and perfect and let's move on.

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
The Knights would be happy to take him on $350,00 to $400,000

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
Just heard on NBN news Alex is a quadriplegic. Hopefully they have reported wrong.

My heart breaks for the bloke.

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
Well it seems they might have reported wrong. The way his spine currently is he could be a quadriplegic but is being flown to Sydney to see spinal specialists to see if they can operate to improve his chances of not being one.

BCR
Jan 23, 2011

Good luck!
gently caress. Thoughts to the guy and his family. I'm guessing they have medical or disability insurance as part of their contracts so at least the family won't have to worry about money.

I have a faint hope this might kick the league into caring about player safety.

Jono C
Mar 28, 2007

Adam is a wonderful example of how a player should go about his business in the NRL
If it isn't covered by insurance, the NRL and/or Knights would be looking after him. The Knights are looking after Russell Packer's partner and kids even though they don't owe him a thing.

Mootallica
Jun 28, 2005

bowmore posted:

Well it seems they might have reported wrong. The way his spine currently is he could be a quadriplegic but is being flown to Sydney to see spinal specialists to see if they can operate to improve his chances of not being one.

They way the reported it on MMM was that he's a quadriplegic in that all 4 limbs are affected - he may only have a small percentage loss of movement in arms not a total loss, which is hopefully what they can rehabilitate at the spinal unit at the hospital in Sydney.

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Mootallica posted:

They way the reported it on MMM was that he's a quadriplegic in that all 4 limbs are affected - he may only have a small percentage loss of movement in arms not a total loss, which is hopefully what they can rehabilitate at the spinal unit at the hospital in Sydney.
That would be a good outcome considering the circumstances I think.

MiniSune
Sep 16, 2003

Smart like Dodo!
Cows lose to the tits, but after sitting through that match I would say we all lost.

Smorgasbord
Jun 18, 2004

Our review identified changes needed to be made and, in Stephen, we have a coach who has a reputation for demanding the highest standards.

MiniSune posted:

Cows lose to the tits, but after sitting through that match I would say we all lost.

0/8 for the round :negative:

All the old ladies at work who don't even watch the games are trouncing me.

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
I'm 1/8.

stickyfngrdboy
Oct 21, 2010
Terrible, terrible news about McKinnon. Just read a few bits on the Aus Telegraph site, and it's all just very very poo poo.

Fanatic
Mar 9, 2006

:eyepop:
To wake up in hospital only to be told you'll never walk again must have been devastating, poor guy. :(

iajanus
Aug 17, 2004

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Everyone should have gotten one tip with the Warriors beating the Tigers.

Really sad for McKinnon, it's not something I'd wish on anyone playing the game (not even Blair, although it might actually make him more useful on the field somehow, since he could barely be less helpful). I think quadriplegic is defined as having all four limbs affected, but at least with his spinal cord not being damaged there's a chance of him being somewhat rehabilitated. I hope he gets all the support possible and makes it through the other side OK, I can't imagine how depressed he must be right now.

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
I hope he's on the really good drugs.

Mills
Jun 13, 2003

I think there's been 5-7 games out of the 36 played where the underdog didn't cover the spread.

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
This is why I told myself to just listen to the official reports aka: the media can be cunts

iajanus
Aug 17, 2004

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They can be cunts and normally are, but there didn't seem to be a dramatic difference in that report and what I've heard reported. The big difference send to be a glass half empty or half full version of the same information. I should note that I've only really heard the details on radio, so the print drivelmedia might be way different, but the big distinction I saw there was that he had movement in an arm (which is a fairly general statement) and might have some developments in the next couple of years, compared to the other media saying quadriplegic (which can mean the same thing, basically). Sensationalised, yes, but not grossly.

Still poo poo, though.

E: for reference, I'm using the Wikipedia information for quadriplegic since my own knowledge of the subject was lacking

Robbie Fowler
May 31, 2011
Hodges back this week :woop:

Jono C
Mar 28, 2007

Adam is a wonderful example of how a player should go about his business in the NRL
The media really needs to give McKinnon's family their space and let them announce whatever they have to announce on their terms when they're ready, rather than making it a race to get the scoop. We don't really give a gently caress who tells us first.

Smorgasbord
Jun 18, 2004

Our review identified changes needed to be made and, in Stephen, we have a coach who has a reputation for demanding the highest standards.

Jono C posted:

The media really needs to give McKinnon's family their space and let them announce whatever they have to announce on their terms when they're ready, rather than making it a race to get the scoop. We don't really give a gently caress who tells us first.

Cunts, the lot of them.

Ratios and Tendency
Apr 23, 2010

:swoon: MURALI :swoon:


League's a bad sport.

Gammon
Aug 20, 2003
Cliff Yablonski Hates Me
7 weeks for McLean. Not sure what to think about that...sure, there was no intent there, but McKinnon could be paralysed for life. How can you possibly determine a fair penalty? Is the result or the intent more important?

Jono C
Mar 28, 2007

Adam is a wonderful example of how a player should go about his business in the NRL
I'm happy with that. Six or more sends the right message. Hopefully this isn't a one-off and lifting a player beyond the horizontal gets penalised more.

Smorgasbord
Jun 18, 2004

Our review identified changes needed to be made and, in Stephen, we have a coach who has a reputation for demanding the highest standards.
It's a nonsense scale of suspension driven by hysteria.

ABC posted:

After successfully earning a guilty verdict, NRL counsel Kite asked the panel to out McLean for between seven and 11 weeks because of the severity of McKinnon's injury.
What a loving crock - the exact same offense resulting in no/lesser injury should be charged differently?

Fanatic
Mar 9, 2006

:eyepop:
There has been alot of talk about McKinnon tucking his head, but wouldn't the alternative be that he lands on his head and wouldn't that be worse?

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
He had his arms pinned, the onus was on the guys to pull him up when they felt him going face first into the dirt. Kind of like stopping a guy from falling when crowd surfing.

Anyway I don't think there is a suitable punishment for what happened, 7 weeks is fine, the poor guy is probably a wreck which is bad enough.

Smorgasbord
Jun 18, 2004

Our review identified changes needed to be made and, in Stephen, we have a coach who has a reputation for demanding the highest standards.

Fanatic posted:

There has been alot of talk about McKinnon tucking his head, but wouldn't the alternative be that he lands on his head and wouldn't that be worse?

No, he would have landed on his arms/the ball.

If McLean's actions are worth 7 weeks now then so be it, but get ready for a suspension shitstorm. If a high tackle breaks a guys jaw should it be charged longer than an identical one that doesn't?

Ewar Woowar
Feb 25, 2007

Smorgasbord posted:

No, he would have landed on his arms/the ball.

If McLean's actions are worth 7 weeks now then so be it, but get ready for a suspension shitstorm. If a high tackle breaks a guys jaw should it be charged longer than an identical one that doesn't?

I'm really torn on this one.

I think McLean was unlucky as it obviously wasn't malicious but given the nature of the injury he was always going to be made an example of. It sets an interesting precedent that is no doubt going to cause a lot of conflict between coaches but perhaps it will be the catalyst that allows League to clean up its image.

Mills
Jun 13, 2003

Should have got 0. Tackle happens every 10 minutes. Amateur sport.

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Dirty Frank
Jul 8, 2004

The best thing they could do (long term, I've no idea short term) is to give cards out in the loving games. Dangerous tackle, no malice (e.g. McLean) yellow card. Dangerous tackle, reason to believe malice (e.g. obvious shoulder charge, nasty spear tackle etc.) red card. Keep the match bans on top of that and the coaches will improve things in 3-4 matches. The problem is that match bans aren't enough, the really important players don't generally get involved in this poo poo anyway.

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