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JSARSOM posted:Yeah isn't this the primary reason affiliation with these aid agencies pretty much kills any chance at a security clearance. There are more than a few positions at USAID that require a TS clearance, I've even heard that some people had to get SCI as well.
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Half the world already thinks we put capitalism-inducing hormones (or herpes) in the corn we give for aid anyway. Also the dude who shot and killed a guy on the Navy base last month wasn't even armed, so lord knows what the response to that will be.
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Trabisnikof posted:There is 0% chance of any sort of "gun restriction" occurring. People are already arguing for arming everyone on base at all times. Considering how many stories people have told about morons getting ADs while just cleaning weapons, I don't see how this is a good idea.
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ded posted:Considering how many stories people have told about morons getting ADs while just cleaning weapons, I don't see how this is a good idea. They'll be given nerf guns until proven they can handle live firearms.
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mstrkrft posted:They'll be given nerf guns until proven they can handle live firearms. Going to be a lot of dudes walking around warzones armed with the N-Strike Elite Rayven.
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Trabisnikof posted:There is 0% chance of any sort of "gun restriction" occurring. People are already arguing for arming everyone on base at all times. wait are you even a vet? there's a 0% chance of anyone extra getting armed despite what anyone's clamoring for
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friend of the family DEATH TURBO posted:wait are you even a vet? there's a 0% chance of anyone extra getting armed despite what anyone's clamoring for I agree completely nothing is going to happen.
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Seriously. Giving a soldier a loaded weapon is never a good idea.
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Carteret posted:Seriously. Giving a soldier a loaded weapon is never a good idea. im pretty confident that if they could arm deployed members with pool noodles they might do it.
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Zeroisanumber posted:Going to be a lot of dudes walking around warzones armed with the N-Strike Elite Rayven. mstrkrft posted:im pretty confident that if they could arm deployed members with pool noodles they might do it. I can't decide which of these is the better idea.
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Bases would echo with the sounds of negligent discharges every time someone tried to clear a weapon before going indoors on getting in a vehicle.
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Trabisnikof posted:There is 0% chance of any sort of "gun restriction" occurring. People are already arguing for arming everyone on base at all times. If your "people" are Sean Hannity and Faux News, loving laffo.
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There's been enough NDs here on BAF to convince me that military members should generally not be allowed near firearms.
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Carteret posted:Seriously. Giving a soldier a loaded weapon is never a good idea. This, only for real.
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Last year someone in my brigade got shot with an M4 and I've been present on a SAW range where a gun malfunctioned and got walked off the range with a live round stuck in the chamber.  I'd be curious to see statistics Army-wide for NDs resulting in injury or death.
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DoktorLoken posted:I'd be curious to see statistics Army-wide for NDs resulting in injury or death. I'm almost positive they're as bad as you think (if not worse).
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JSARSOM posted:Yeah isn't this the primary reason affiliation with these aid agencies pretty much kills any chance at a security clearance. Not a security clearance per se, but I'm pretty sure there's some kind of a cooling off period between going to/from an intelligence focused gig...similar to the requirement that any Peace Corps volunteers aren't allowed to hold an intelligence position for 4 years after leaving, and that they are forever prohibited from doing any sort of intel work regarding any country they volunteered in. psydude posted:There's been enough NDs here on BAF to convince me that military members should generally not be allowed near firearms. I think my favorite on KAF was either the AF member who ND'd their M-16 into the engine block of a pickup because they thought it was a good idea to be cleaning their weapon while driving down perimeter road or the Army Lt Col who ND'd into a Lt. The AF member who ND'd during a function check because they dropped the mag from their rifle after pulling the bolt back to clear it ( ) was pretty lol too.
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lt who shot himself in the hand while demonstrating the whole if you push in on the barrel far enough it won't fire trick with a loaded m9
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Apparently someone at KAF NDed into someone's chest with a shotgun at the DFAC. My battalion alone has had 6 NDs so far.
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We had one port that considered our guys so untrustworthy that the machine gunner at the end of the pier wasn't issued ammo at all, and the gate guard got his pistol replaced with a sharpened stick
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Back around the time I was working at the bombing range they were conducting a combat arms class and some female instructor somehow got her hand in front of somebody's weapon and it got shot.
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I couldn't even tell you the amount of times I had to guard something sensitive like ammo with m16s and hadn't been issued even a dummy magazine for looks. Never had a ND! 
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Casimir Radon posted:Back around the time I was working at the bombing range they were conducting a combat arms class and some female instructor somehow got her hand in front of somebody's weapon and it got shot. spotted the problem
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Frosted Flake posted:Bases would echo with the sounds of negligent discharges every time someone tried to clear a weapon before going indoors on getting in a vehicle. Using this to respond to people on Facebook that think everyone needs to be armed on base
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suboptimal posted:There are more than a few positions at USAID that require a TS clearance, I've even heard that some people had to get SCI as well. From what I've seen, most FTEs and PSCs will have S or higher at USAID. People seem to be confusing them with PC.
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Snowdens Secret posted:We had one port that considered our guys so untrustworthy that the machine gunner at the end of the pier wasn't issued ammo at all, and the gate guard got his pistol replaced with a sharpened stick
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2/2 SCR folks who was in Afghanistan about 3 years ago, remember the E6 who ND a MK19 in his company CP, where the 40mm went through his medics leg?
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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:spotted the problem Yeah as we all know it's really hard to prevent military personnel from discharging loads at unwilling females.
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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:spotted the problem
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suboptimal posted:There are more than a few positions at USAID that require a TS clearance, I've even heard that some people had to get SCI as well. Quoted for truth. Fiance and like half her office have at least a TS. Jonad posted:Yeah as we all know it's really hard to prevent military personnel from discharging loads at unwilling females. 
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Kaliber posted:2/2 SCR Not surprised.
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Helldump Immunity. posted:Lmfao my Facebook has a bunch of this stuff Have these people ever even BEEN to a military range? Just over 50% to "qualify" is Not A Good Thing when a bunch of shitheads are trying to subdue "the shooter." Guess what, assholes?! Everyone turns into the loving shooter if you can walk around with a weapon. BUT ARE GUNS ARE TROOPS THANKS HUSSEIN OBUMMER
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The Casualty posted:I just want to know how this dipshit was a 15-year Specialist. Literally fell off the turnip truck in front of local recruiting station.
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Carteret posted:Never had a ND! I pulled the firing pin out of my m16 the day after we arrived at NTC, was issued blanks and told to keep a loaded magazine in my weapon at all times. In the same brief we were told that if we get an ND (even in a clearing barrel) it was an automatic ART-15. Of course when the XOs m9 went off, he laughed and went on to enter the chow hall.
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Carteret posted:Have these people ever even BEEN to a military range? Just over 50% to "qualify" is Not A Good Thing when a bunch of shitheads are trying to subdue "the shooter." Guess what, assholes?! Everyone turns into the loving shooter if you can walk around with a weapon. I don't know about issuing weapons but I am fully for Army personnel on domestic bases being required to wear full SAPI plate, helmet, eyepro at all times (plus reflective belts)
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Snowdens Secret posted:I don't know about issuing weapons but I am fully for Army personnel on domestic bases being required to wear full SAPI plate, helmet, eyepro at all times (plus reflective belts) You left gloves off that list there, trooper. Gotta practice good hand safety.
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psydude posted:You left gloves off that list there, trooper. Gotta practice good hand safety. Forgot knee and elbow pads, SIR. And ear pro. And, uh...
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