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Halloween Jack posted:I feel like there's a crucial element of barely-veiled misogyny that we're both missing. Oh, and racism, if we can work that in somehow. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXtpsvBEtb0 BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 00:28 on Mar 29, 2014 |
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Holy gently caress that is a horror movie - and everything an industrial music video should be. Wow. I don't think I've seen anything that good since Skinny Puppy's old videos. Just reality in your face. On a lighter note, I love this new Blutengel song and Chris Pohl is super hot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDJE5TS8bdM BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 00:40 on Mar 29, 2014 |
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OneEightHundred posted:Apparently Psyclon Nine's drummer and guitarist have both quit. My birthday week was going so fuckin' cool until this was announced. Goddamn it Nero. gently caress opiates. unpacked robinhood posted:I know combichrist isn't a thread favorite but his last album came out recently. I don't have an opinion yet. Don't feel bad dude I love them and lovely aggrotech in general. I can't help it and judge myself accordingly.
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Not a popular opinion, but I gotta say I'm over the whole "industrial music video made up of borrowed film clips" thing. And here's why: I think Skinny Puppy did it as a unique thing 20 years ago with Worlock. Took Ogre days of editing on an old VHS editor (and gawd those things are tricky) and at the time it worked as a cool homage to lesser-known horror and also a statement against censorship that they were up against at the time. Also while bands like Ministry and NIN did use stock footage, they also spliced in their own filmed-scenes to make it their own. Today I feel it's simply being lazy. Because you can do SOOOO much more in 2014 with just a computer and a local film-graduate willing to work on a budget. Sky is the limit. FX can be done on any modern computer. Actors/actresses are willing to work cheap (Free actually, but I recommend compensating people, always) and even animators will work with most low budgets. You can use online forums/craigslist/internets to pretty much find anyone skilled at doing anything in the visual arts and commission them. Again, your own imagination is the limit. This was a genre made up of alot of very creative and unique videos, and rarely today do I see much original that isn't clips from popular films edited in 20-minutes on a laptop with the bands logo at the beginning. Fake edit; This isn't a stab at 3teeth or anyone in particular. Just a rant. If anything, I wish many of these new bands would make an original video cause their awesome music deserves something original.
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Pope Guilty posted:High-Functioning Flesh are pretty great. God drat
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CAT rear end now!!! posted:God drat The mp3s are supposed to be out later today, and I so can't wait!
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The Cleaner posted:Not a popular opinion, but I gotta say I'm over the whole "industrial music video made up of borrowed film clips" thing. And here's why: FLA - Mindphaser superiority 
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High-Functioning Flesh update: this poo poo is loving awesome.
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Went to see VNV Nation again last night. It was at an outdoor venue in Austin in perfect weather. I have to say those shows have the most positive feel-good vibes out there. Okay seeing them outdoors in great weather was excellent. At the same time, their new material kind of sucks. It's not bad. But it's like the goth-pop version of U2 now. I'm officially one of the old guys who was disappointed they didn't play enough of the old stuff. I'm not even 30. 
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Omi-Polari posted:Went to see VNV Nation again last night. It was at an outdoor venue in Austin in perfect weather. I have to say those shows have the most positive feel-good vibes out there. Okay seeing them outdoors in great weather was excellent. Oh hi fellow concert buddy. I thought their new material was lovely. They did play Chrome, which is the song that got me interested in them in the first place. If Gas Mask Man was there, maybe they would have played more old songs. Blame it on him.
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Ms. Happiness posted:Oh hi fellow concert buddy.
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The Cleaner posted:Not a popular opinion, but I gotta say I'm over the whole "industrial music video made up of borrowed film clips" thing. And here's why: I completely agree with this. Also if you do end up using footage you didn't shoot please don't rip off poo poo you don't have rights to. It's the same as if someone ripped off your music and put it in their video or game. There's royalty free content out there but in the end you're better off shooting your own poo poo or hiring someone to do it.
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I'm pissed that VNV skipped Philly on this tour. What the gently caress, Ronan.  At least i'll be seeing Rasputina in 10 days. (not EBM/Industrial but gently caress you Rasputina owns)
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Silhouette posted:I'm pissed that VNV skipped Philly on this tour. What the gently caress, Ronan. Come to the Indianapolis area! 13th largest city in the nation but nobody plays here. Everybody will just drive six hours round trip up to Chicago, right? Or eight, if you live in Bloomington.
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Figure this is the best place to ask this but I have a question about Chu Ishikawa.* He was a regular composer for Takashi Miike's various action/comedy movies in the nineties. Except for a particular one titled Full Metal Yakuza. The music credit for this movie goes to "Sound Kid's Corp." However, it sounds basically exactly like a Chu Ishikawa soundtrack. So who is Sound Kid's Corp.? When I look around for information on them, even on Japanese websites I learn that these are the only things they ever did music/sound design on: King's Field (1994) King's Field 2 (1995, both of these are old Playstation 1 adventure games) Full Metal Yakuza (1997, directed by Takashi Miike) Burnout (2001, a racing game for the PS2, XBox and Gamecube) So I guess what I'm asking, is did Chu Ishikawa slum it briefly in the mid nineties via this Sound Kid's Corp group? Was Sound Kid's Corp. just some people who were big fans of his stuff? It seems like a weird stylistic intersection and a weird gap between work for "Sound Kid's Corp." As an example this movie Chu Ishikawa scored is from 1989 but its music is literally 90sdungeoncrawlervideogame.wav http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4z10AlFDQfY Listen to this track he did for Tokyo Fist in 1995: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAQyFq5Xdo8 , slow it down a bit and... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDapXvnjAhI Am I drawing at straws with this? *For anyone not familiar, basically he was an industrial composer throughout the mid-nineties in Japan. He also does various film soundtracks to this day (mostly for Takashi Miike and Shinya Tsukamoto). The two groups he founded/did the most with are Der Eisenfost and Zeitlich Vergelter
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Pope Guilty posted:Come to the Indianapolis area! 13th largest city in the nation but nobody plays here. Everybody will just drive six hours round trip up to Chicago, right? Or eight, if you live in Bloomington. Welcome to Finland, never ever see your favorite bands live because haha you think bands want to play for ten people in one of the most expensive countries in the world? Pope Guilty posted:High-Functioning Flesh update: this poo poo is loving awesome. Also yes gently caress yes a cyborg mug fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Apr 1, 2014 |
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CAT rear end now!!! posted:Welcome to Finland, never ever see your favorite bands live because haha you think bands want to play for ten people in one of the most expensive countries in the world? It's more like, you think Finnish promoters want to book artists to come play for ten people? Artists are generally down to play wherever a promoter brings them.
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Twiin posted:It's more like, you think Finnish promoters want to book artists to come play for ten people? Artists are generally down to play wherever a promoter brings them. Oh yeah, excellent point, sorry 
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Pope Guilty posted:High-Functioning Flesh update: this poo poo is loving awesome. Owns all the bones.  I'm on a drum and drone kick right now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48V3JxqdbGg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3vyZiZCj0o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpmAD4gcLMo  e: thanks to google's super advanced ad technology, I get pantene commercials before all of these. boo_radley fucked around with this message at 03:58 on Apr 2, 2014 |
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magiccarpet posted:Well now I've gone and started buying pedals for my synths like a real loving idiot. I can't remember if it was you I was showing this to in the synthesizers ML thread, but the following is my Zvex Instant Lowfi, and, I poo poo you not, a Microkorg http://tindeck.com/listen/icli
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The Cleaner posted:Not a popular opinion, but I gotta say I'm over the whole "industrial music video made up of borrowed film clips" thing. And here's why: I don't like the idea that "real art" has to be hard. You get the same arguments out of classic/prog rock enthusiasts who poo-pooh electronic music in general.
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SacrificialGoat posted:I don't like the idea that "real art" has to be hard. You get the same arguments out of classic/prog rock enthusiasts who poo-pooh electronic music in general. I never said anything at all about "real art has to be hard". The entire post was promoting and encouraging how easy it is nowadays to create original video footage compared to 30 years ago.
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The Cleaner posted:I never said anything at all about "real art has to be hard". Also, real art does have to be hard. It requires either originality or technical competence and craft. Neither of which are easy.
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Sizone posted:Also, real art does have to be hard. It requires either originality or technical competence and craft. Neither of which are easy. I'll agree that the technical competence and craft side is hard - and should be, because wanting and striving to learn your craft is the bit where you show dedication to your art - but for some lucky people being original and visionary comes easily. Or at least seems to come. edit: The idea of "technical competence" is pretty fuzzy, though. What if someone's art isn't on some kind of vague "standard" level of technical competence, but sounds and looks and feels exactly like they wanted it to? I do agree that it often requires some skill in your craft to be able to get the kind of results you want, but it's not always necessary. Lots of great things have been made by accident. I definitely think someone like Wesley Willis was absolutely an artist and whatever he made was most certainly art, even though his stuff was probably never on a level a random passer-by would call "technically competent". But it was as real as art gets, and authentic as all hell. Maybe being schizophrenic was both the easy and the hard part of making art for him - hard in that hey, dude had loving schizophrenia, but easy in that originality was second nature to him. edit2: I'm also hesitant to call anyone's art "not-art" if it's something that comes out of their hearts and they're truly putting everything they've got into it. It might be terrible (see: many of the webcomics in the terrible webcomics thread in GBS), sure, but it can still be art. Who are we to say someone's creation isn't art if they see it as art themselves? a cyborg mug fucked around with this message at 11:37 on Apr 3, 2014 |
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It's probably already been mentioned multiple times in here but I've noticed a lot of this dark industrial dance music tends to share a fair whack of common ground with techno (which to most people is a bad word it seems). I grew up on metal and industrial and then branched out into mostly electronic stuff (I blame having an older sister who in the 80s played nothing but synthy pop tunes on her stereo) so I've heard an awful lot of stuff, a lot of it not that great but some stuff is gold. I never gave this album time on release at the back end of last year, I kept meaning to get around to picking it up but I never did. Recently a friend gave me his CD copy (which looks lush) because he's a vinyl nerd and I've had it playing on rotation for the past 3 weeks. As I mentioned I used to listen to some industrial dance stuff so I was pleasantly surprised by what I heard from this typically 'techno' producer. Gessafelstein - Aleph  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB8Ci7X5HUU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_NgkfRmUPk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lM9rRMJ3Ayc
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Pursuit was one of the best music videos of last year and the album is absolutely stellar.
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CAT rear end now!!! posted:edit2: I'm also hesitant to call anyone's art "not-art" if it's something that comes out of their hearts and they're truly putting everything they've got into it. It might be terrible (see: many of the webcomics in the terrible webcomics thread in GBS), sure, but it can still be art. Who are we to say someone's creation isn't art if they see it as art themselves? I've always thought that art is best thought of as an interaction between the viewer and the object, be it image/video/performance/whatever, rather than an intrinsic property and I'd argue therefore others aren't in a position to deny what constitutes art to another. I think the real shame is that not enough industrial bands release videos fullstop. Can someone list the videos made up of borrowed film clips? I actually can't think of that many.
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Nine Inch Nails on Austin City Limits: Austin City Limits Interview with Trent Reznor of Nine Inch Nails Sanctified More on their channel: http://vimeo.com/austincitylimits
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spamman posted:Pursuit was one of the best music videos of last year and the album is absolutely stellar. Agreed, Pursuit is an absolute bomb but it took a while before the album became brilliant in my eyes.
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Once again, the conservative "didn't have the cash to renew my passport" portfolio pays off for the broke investor -- Kinetik is cancelled  quote:Hi Everyone,
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Full quote:quote:Hi Everyone, It goes without saying, but I wonder what happened. I'm not really disappointed per se because I wouldn't be surprised if many of the bands I wanted to see will end up playing here anyway, and probably for a lot cheaper and at better venues. I just feel really bad for the organisers.
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I hadn't been paying attention to the lineup once I decided I wasn't going to be able to go, goddamn is that a lot of bands I want to see. Including our own Volt9000! That really sucks.
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Antigen Shift is one of our own too I think. Sometimes is, sometimes isn't? I really hope Malhavoc plays anyway. I think it would be awesome/hilarious to see.
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I have it on good authority that Volt 9000 WILL still be playing *a show in Toronto that weekend! * A show may mean anything from headlining at the Rogers Center, to busking in their underwear on the corner of Queen and Spadina with a Monotron.
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teethgrinder posted:Antigen Shift is one of our own too I think. Sometimes is, sometimes isn't? Is! At least the half of Antigen Shift that is me. The Cleaner posted:I have it on good authority that Volt 9000 WILL still be playing *a show in Toronto that weekend! I think possibly I will be the one booking that show!
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Peter Murphy is looking to release a DVD via PledgeMusic (like kickstarter). http://www.pledgemusic.com/projects/petermurphy quote:UNLOCK A WINDOW INTO MR. MOONLIGHT….
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Maybe he was drinking and driving again. Whatever it takes to get more live-anything out of him. Peter Murphy posted:"If you call me 'dark,' I'll kick you out," 
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This poster loves police brutality, but only when its against minorities!