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Apr 5, 2014 19:59
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Gullwing doors always seemed really handy to me, especially when you park a little too close to something. How come they never took off?
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Apr 5, 2014 20:02
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Weight, cost, complexity. And gullwing doors always leak.
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Apr 5, 2014 21:07
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Ensign Expendable posted:Gullwing doors always seemed really handy to me, especially when you park a little too close to something. How come they never took off? If your car flips over you can't open them and you die alone, making GBS threads your pants, upside down.
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Apr 5, 2014 23:14
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peter gabriel posted:If your car flips over you can't open them and you die alone, making GBS threads your pants, upside down. They actually had to install explosive bolts on the Mercedes SLS with gullwings - if you flip the car, they activate and literally blow the doors off.
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Apr 5, 2014 23:27
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Useless posted:They actually had to install explosive bolts on the Mercedes SLS with gullwings - if you flip the car, they activate and literally blow the doors off. And you'd really be making GBS threads your pants then.
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Apr 5, 2014 23:28
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Collateral Damage posted:Weight, cost, complexity. And gullwing doors always leak. The gas struts went bad on mine, but what a workout getting out haha. $600 a pop to replace too so it's a stupid fad. Someone mentioned earlier that they are good for tight parking spaces - that is the only true benefit.
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Apr 6, 2014 07:10
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Talk about going over your heads.
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Apr 6, 2014 09:15
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wrong thread woops
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Apr 6, 2014 09:17
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Sunshine89 posted:
That car, and most glass roofs, look amazing. I suppose that's why we never ever seem to learn how impractical they are. There was an aftermarket glass roof available for my current car, which also looks fabulous:   but as ever: An Owner posted:Yes, it got wicked hot in the summertime, and while it did have A/C, it was useless because it couldn't overcome the greenhouse effect when you rolled up the windows, not to mention that using the A/C at anything below highway speeds caused the car to overheat. Even knowing it'd turn the car into an oven, if one came up for sale I'd have it.
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Apr 6, 2014 23:41
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Horace posted:That car, and most glass roofs, look amazing. I suppose that's why we never ever seem to learn how impractical they are. There was an aftermarket glass roof available for my current car, which also looks fabulous: The Sera got so hot in the Australian summer it melted my stereos remote control!
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Apr 7, 2014 02:06
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I hope pull-out car stereos have become obsolete. They were terrible.
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Apr 7, 2014 02:11
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 I don't even get how this is a good idea, why would you want to remove your stereo so easily? Especially since it's a prime target for theft.
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Apr 7, 2014 02:27
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umalt posted:
I think that's why. So you can take it with you. Maybe you throw it in the trunk?
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Apr 7, 2014 02:28
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To be honest, a better design would have made it like modern cars in that it's far too difficult to remove a sound system thus making theft a (mostly) non-issue; rather than making it so that an absent-minded car owner would be target number one.
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Apr 7, 2014 02:42
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umalt posted:
So you can carry it on your shoulder
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Apr 7, 2014 02:46
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Well, if it does get stolen, at least the thief won't mess up your dash trying to get it out.
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Apr 7, 2014 03:35
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umalt posted:
I had one of those. You pulled it out of the dash when you got to work and put in in your desk until you left. I worked 3rd shift in a bad part of town. I thought it was a great invention.
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Apr 7, 2014 03:41
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If I remember right this was before detachable faces were affordable. I had an older cousin that had a radio like that in her car. By the time I was driving detachable faces were all the rage. Now I can't remember the last time I even bothered to take it off, and it seems like aftermarket stereos in general have kind of gone by the wayside, I dropped a few grand over the course of a few years on my car back in the late 90s, but now most cars come with decent head units and really only need some amps and speakers if you want to get a better sound.
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Apr 7, 2014 04:04
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Its more like modern stereos are built into the dash in such a way they are impossible to replace without using a mount kit that is more expensive than the stereo itself.
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Apr 7, 2014 04:18
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mints posted:If I remember right this was before detachable faces were affordable. I had an older cousin that had a radio like that in her car. By the time I was driving detachable faces were all the rage. Now I can't remember the last time I even bothered to take it off, and it seems like aftermarket stereos in general have kind of gone by the wayside, I dropped a few grand over the course of a few years on my car back in the late 90s, but now most cars come with decent head units and really only need some amps and speakers if you want to get a better sound.
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Apr 7, 2014 05:41
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My previous car was a 1996 Accord, and the stock stereo eventually died. I picked up a nice aftermarket stereo on Craigslist for $40, and got my mechanic to install it while some other work was getting done, and I was happy. Eventually my car got stolen. It was found a couple of weeks later, and the stereo was gone. I got my car cleaned out and fixed up, picked up another stereo off Craigslist for $40, got it installed and went about my life. A little over a year later, the car got stolen again. It was also found several days later, and of course the stereo was gone. Only this time they had the courtesy to cut off the catalytic converter, so I got a fat check and put it towards a new car, one with the stock radio built into the dash.
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Apr 7, 2014 06:50
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Wilford Cutlery posted:My previous car was a 1996 Accord, and the stock stereo eventually died. I picked up a nice aftermarket stereo on Craigslist for $40, and got my mechanic to install it while some other work was getting done, and I was happy. I had a broken CD player in my 1986 Ascona that I'd 'installed'* by literally gluing it in place with a shitload of Sikaflex. When druggies stole the car they'd also removed the CD player. I'm willing to bet it was more work than they'd ever done in their lives. *) Obviously it worked when I put it in.
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Apr 7, 2014 09:20
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The removable radio/facia plate is much better than the dreaded security code. Nothing beats getting ten miles into a long road trip, turning on the radio and it demanding a security code you don't remember. Or worse, locking yourself out of the radio for an hour because you thought you remembered it. Made all the worse when the unit is a worthless mono radio which absolutely no-one would steal.
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Apr 7, 2014 13:11
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W can nearly add 3rd party Stereo Headunits into the obsolete category. All the integration stuff is annoying as hell. And usually interfacing with the aircon, steering wheel, cluster LCD etc (and through the power of CAN-BUS!). It loving pissed me off when I just wanted bloody USB input or MP3 CD playback on my 2008 Commodore. Ended up buying a full dash replacement including screen, facias, trim, HVAC controller, nav package etc and installing it myself (and preflash the EEPROM for my VIN). Then realised I didn't get the USB connectivity cables that go into the centre console. Jerry rigged that by tracing a weird 4 pin connection on the passenger side, guessed right with the data lines, and done! gently caress you Holden (and me for not researching before buying the vehicle). Humphreys has a new favorite as of 14:52 on Apr 7, 2014 |
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Apr 7, 2014 14:34
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I have a detachable face on my car stereo. I usually just take it off and throw it in the glove deparment so that it looks like there's no stereo, or if a potential burglar knows about detachable faces, that I did bother to take it with me. My first car got stolen, totalled in the same day by whoever did it. They took the CD changer in the trunk (still don't know why, it really only works with my brand of stereo). Got another, because...even with the face still in the car, the stereo also was there.
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Apr 7, 2014 14:52
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Humphreys posted:All the integration stuff is annoying as hell. And usually interfacing with the aircon, steering wheel, cluster LCD etc (and through the power of CAN-BUS!). This reminds me of something that probably should be obsolete, but because of the semi-modern stereo situation isn't yet:  My car was built in that awkward period after easily replaceable stereos but before AUX in became standard. The in dash CD stacker has been dead for years, and the radio will only get Japanese frequencies (only one station around here) but fortunately the cassette deck is still going strong so I can use one of the above adapters to connect my phone
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Apr 7, 2014 20:47
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I will never understand the witchcraft that allows those cassette adapters to function.
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Apr 7, 2014 20:49
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Ugh, my 2005 Toyota Corolla didn't even have a tape deck, much less an auxiliary/USB input. All it had was the radio and CD player. Listening to music was a pain in the rear end since I had to lug around thirty pounds of CDs in a binder to have a decent selection of varied music. It, too, was built in that awkward phase where cassette tapes were long dead, but aux/USB was a nebulous thing of the future and the de facto standard was CDs. What a shitpile of a sound system that was. My 2013 Corolla has bluetooth, USB, CDs, and a cool touch screen for radio/stereo selection. It's miles and miles above what I used to have.
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Apr 7, 2014 21:11
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Captain Trips posted:I will never understand the witchcraft that allows those cassette adapters to function. They convert (marginally, it's pretty straightforward analogue stuff) the analogue signal from the headphone jack to the electromagnetic signals that the cassette deck would be picking up from the "tape" portion of the cassette. They're mostly solid-state, too - the spool-holes don't actually spin or even connect to anything, they're just there for hardware compatibility.
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Apr 7, 2014 21:18
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Simply Simon posted:I have a detachable face on my car stereo. I usually just take it off and throw it in the glove deparment so that it looks like there's no stereo, or if a potential burglar knows about detachable faces, that I did bother to take it with me. My brother had a nice Alpine pullout stereo and left it under his car seat. Burglars destroyed the driver side door lock attempting to gain entry and wound up smashing a window. Stole the stereo of course. Pullouts were terrible because they were only truly useful if you were willing to take the stereo with you at all times. They were heavy and cumbersome and there would be countless occasions where it was a pain in the rear end to bring it along, like going to see a movie. At least detachable faceplates were slimmer and lighter. There was also the problem where the stereo connector would get worn out from all the removals and insertions, particularly if you weren't gentle with them.
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Apr 7, 2014 21:27
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My car has a CD changer. It was obsolete when it was new.
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Apr 7, 2014 21:43
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Dick Trauma posted:I hope pull-out car stereos have become obsolete. They were terrible. A friend of mine, who was a car stereo hobbyist, sawed the face off the shittiest stock car stereo he had, and made a bracket he would just fix the false stereo front to over his good one. He even put a functioning LED clock on it to enhance the illusion.
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Apr 7, 2014 21:50
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Platystemon posted:My car has a CD changer. It was obsolete when it was new. I was really excited when I got my second car and it happened to come with a sweet sound system with a six disc changer in the head unit. Until I realized that I mostly listened to stuff off of my iPod/phone anyways. Oh well, thing has an mp3 function so you can cram a bunch of music onto one CD. Then I realized the car had an AUX function literally built in but with no cable, so 15 bucks later and a few plugs into the back of the head unit I now have an AUX plugin. THE FUTURE
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Apr 7, 2014 22:12
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Dick Trauma posted:My brother had a nice Alpine pullout stereo and left it under his car seat. Burglars destroyed the driver side door lock attempting to gain entry and wound up smashing a window. Stole the stereo of course. I had a stereo that the face plate would flip around when the car was turned off so that it looked like you had taken the face plate off. The face was connected by a ribbon cable that wore out after about 2 years. I soldered a new ribbon cable on and it lasted about 8 months. I gave up on it after that.
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Apr 7, 2014 22:35
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I really hope nobody ever tries to steal my stereo since there is literally nothing stopping them except the intricate anti-theft measures of "have the strength of at least a toddler to remove faceplate, posses a screwdriver and 30 seconds".
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Apr 7, 2014 22:49
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Lowen SoDium posted:I had a stereo that the face plate would flip around when the car was turned off so that it looked like you had taken the face plate off. Awww, my dad had one of these in his old pickup  Did yours have the little screen that would show cute little graphics while the music was playing? And it would run text when you turned it on like "HELLO" and when you turned it off "GOODBYE" ?
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Apr 7, 2014 23:09
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Oh man for like a good five years there the market for the most extravagant shiny ridiculous blinky button filled stereo faces imaginable was a huge deal. I had completely forgotten about that and how stupid it seems looking back.
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Apr 8, 2014 01:45
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The worst part of my 2004 Chevy Malibu is the radio....it's just the stock radio, but it's radio/CD. No cassette, no AUX or USB. The CD is jammed to the point that I can't even find out what disk is stuck in it from the previous owner because it will neither play nor eject. Replacing it would be roughly $200 because I would need an adapter for the information system display built into it as well as the replacement head unit. Basically, I need this.
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Apr 8, 2014 01:54
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taiyoko posted:The worst part of my 2004 Chevy Malibu is the radio....it's just the stock radio, but it's radio/CD. No cassette, no AUX or USB. The CD is jammed to the point that I can't even find out what disk is stuck in it from the previous owner because it will neither play nor eject. Is it a slot-loading CD? Take an old disc you don't care about and push it halfway in, trying to wedge above or below the disc that's stuck, then pull out quickly. The stuck disc will usually come out with it. It always worked on CRT iMacs.
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