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Season 2 is probably my favourite season of television ever, so the show has earned some serious cred in my eyes. It was the funniest show, joke-after-joke style since Friends, I really care about the characters and the first two seasons had great little moments of friendship and heart reminiscent of some of the best stuff Scrubs did but on a more personal level, it does far more interesting stuff and goes higher concept than pretty much anything else in its genre AND it's made by people who know and love television, for people who know and love television, with all the knowing winks and nods to clichés as it goes. Plus incredible cast, the best (most OCD) production department and little things like this network sitcom having some of the coolest action sequences and beautiful shots on TV in those first two years. Downside is I'm talking almost entirely about the first two seasons here. Season 3 got too wacky, weirdly aimless and started recycling a lot of ideas - but was still funny. Season 4 was incredibly boring and unfunny and proved that Dan Harmon was pretty much the central nervous system of the show. And season 5 so far has been a return to the funny and despite a strong start and Buzz Hickey being a really good character - it hasn't quite lived up to the heartwarming aspect of the first two seasons. (Other than Troy's goodbye.) Probably on the same level as season 3 though. So yeah, those are my feelings on a TV show? P.S. I can't stand Rick and Morty.
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Android Blues posted:I think Rick and Morty is a natural comparison, and I'd say that that's a better show because it goes all out on the bizarreness. I think you hit the heart of it. Rick and Morty is an Adult Swim production whose execs said, "Make it strange, make it bizarre" while Community is on NBC and has someone behind it saying, "Make it approachable and oh hey, try to beat out the Big Bang Theory." I prefer Community. Dan Harmon oft has a direct line to my funny bone (to paraphrase Zombieland w/ Bill Murray). And it's not his jokes that amuse me but his twists on themes. Remedial Chaos Theory, for one, was an episode that was made just for me.
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VagueRant posted:Season 2 is probably my favourite season of television ever, so the show has earned some serious cred in my eyes. Who cares, your opinions suck.
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Frostwerks posted:Who cares, your opinions suck. This thread, in a nutshell.
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Apr 12, 2014 23:08
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Remember back before the show aired? People were wondering why Joel McHale and Chevy Chase were doing a sitcom, and how long they could last on jokes about Community college. Was there any hint as to what Harmon had done before this that would have made even a few people have an idea of what was to come?
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Olibu posted:Remember back before the show aired? People were wondering why Joel McHale and Chevy Chase were doing a sitcom, and how long they could last on jokes about Community college. Was there any hint as to what Harmon had done before this that would have made even a few people have an idea of what was to come? Pretty much nothing. He wrote about a quarter of the Sarah Silverman episodes. He'll get another shot at a sitcom down the road once Community goes under.
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Apr 13, 2014 02:47
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I was thinking the proposal scene was terrible for all of ten seconds before I realized that, while the scene was just playing off an old sitcom gimmick in accordance with the theme of the episode and the season will inevitably end in a romantically neutral place (which is definitely for the best), I love Jeff and Britta together. They're jaded and washed up and should probably never get actually married, but they're best friends who are so terrible for everyone else that they kind of deserve each other.
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kayakyakr posted:Pretty much nothing. He wrote about a quarter of the Sarah Silverman episodes. He'll get another shot at a sitcom down the road once Community goes under. Now taking bets; Fox, or Netflix?
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kayakyakr posted:Pretty much nothing. He wrote about a quarter of the Sarah Silverman episodes. He'll get another shot at a sitcom down the road once Community goes under. There was definitely enough out there to get an idea of what was to come. Heat Vision and Jack Computerman Just those two alone... most of his Channel 101 stuff, though, really.
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Apr 13, 2014 03:11
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Eh, I've followed Harmon since SCUD and La Cosa Nostroid... Based on everything he and Schrab did together there was nothing to indicate this level of something out of him... His issues of SCUD and La Cosa Nostroid were way weaker than Schrab's, so he always seemed like the weaker of the two.
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Apr 13, 2014 03:58
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Unmerciful posted:My opinion on this season (unnecessarily long and possibly incomprehensible): Agreed 100%. Community has its flaws, but it runs laps around other shows in terms of writing talent and care. I love this post because it expresses exactly how I feel about Community much more eloquently than I could. Community after five seasons (and a gas leak year) is still fresh and feels new. How often does that happen?
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Apr 13, 2014 04:06
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At the end there, even though I was pretty disgusted at the blatant advertising, I got so giddy when I heard him mention "Lincolnshire", and loving hell I was off my seat when he said he was from my home town of Scunthorpe. Everything they said after that was total bullshit though, but loving hell did that catch me off guard.
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Megaspel posted:At the end there, even though I was pretty disgusted at the blatant advertising, I got so giddy when I heard him mention "Lincolnshire", and loving hell I was off my seat when he said he was from my home town of Scunthorpe. Everything they said after that was total bullshit though, but loving hell did that catch me off guard. Its not bullshit. You are Buzz's child. Accept it.
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Apr 13, 2014 04:24
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzysIK3QuUs Little late to this one, but it really does sound like a lot of the quality issues people had with the humour of the GI-Joe episode were because of the locked-in ahead of time nature of animation development loving with Harmon's normal development process and the way he likes to tweak things constantly.
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Olibu posted:Remember back before the show aired? People were wondering why Joel McHale and Chevy Chase were doing a sitcom, and how long they could last on jokes about Community college. Was there any hint as to what Harmon had done before this that would have made even a few people have an idea of what was to come? I remember thinking it was going to get canceled after like a month and would be a running joke on The Soup
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Man, I wish I had given this season a chance earlier because (at least up to episode 5) it's been fantastic and I already want to say that this is the best season. My favorite episode is still AD&D but I can't believe I just saw 5 really great episodes of Community in a row.
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Last Chance posted:Season 3 was just fine in my book. It gave us Remedial Chaos Theory, Pillows and Blankets, and Basic Lupine Urology. Great stuff. The rest of the season varied in quality, but was still good television. Honestly if you say "I hate the way season 3 changed the tone of the show" or even "I hate the end/second half of season 3" that's understandable but to flat out hate season 3 is nuts.
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Apr 14, 2014 02:57
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The only thing I disliked was they used the "HEY SHIRLEY HAS KIDS" thing a second episode in a row.
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Last Chance posted:Season 3 was just fine in my book. It gave us Remedial Chaos Theory, Pillows and Blankets, and Basic Lupine Urology. Great stuff. The rest of the season varied in quality, but was still good television. Annie's Move and Britta/Blade episodes I'd also put among the most enjoyable in the series. Also, I feel like the Ocean's Eleven episode would have been remembered more fondly if it wasn't rushed out at the same time as the video game episode and the finale. Lord Of Texas fucked around with this message at 15:57 on Apr 14, 2014 |
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Some of you might like these. Paul F. Tompkins interviews Jim Rash https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxaO7lkXIhg Paul F. Tompkins interviews Gillian Jacobs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdI6Pxrn4zc Paul F. Tompkins interviews Jonathan Banks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHCod3tu-JU Paul F. Tompkins interviews Alison Brie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wrI2EsVnnE
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Apr 14, 2014 18:37
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Is it weird that I notice Gillian has a weird Steve Buscemi eyes in everything but Community.
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drat the ending was good  This series should have used Professor Duncan a lot more.
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I agree. Apparently they wanted to use Duncan more but John Oliver was busy with the Daily show or something. IIRC the idea was to explore Jeff and Duncan's friendship over the season, and sort of have it replace Troy and Abed. Since they couldn't make it work they went with "every character gets a story with Buzz" instead.
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Apr 15, 2014 14:59
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John Oliver's in the next episode.
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VagueRant posted:I think Really? I felt like it made a lot of sense and felt very natural. What else ARE they going to do? And they are kind of perfect together.
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The entire point of the scene was that it made no sense, man. It was wholly obligatory for the purpose of retroactively giving meaning to the last five years.
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MrAristocrates posted:The entire point of the scene was that it made no sense, man. It was wholly obligatory for the purpose of retroactively giving meaning to the last five years. Made no sense, but still made every bit of sense because why the hell not? I mean, Jeff just went through a mid-life crisis. Britta's done worse. It's the logical next step to Jeff's transformation into someone quite hum-drum and ordinary.
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I get it for Jeff (he's settling into an ordinary life!), but I feel like it does Britta short shrift. He doesn't usually treat her that well or get along with her in particular, so it kind of feels like they're doing "remember the first season? When they liked each other? Well, that's why they still do now!". I guess I don't really get why Britta would want to be with him.
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Unmerciful posted:I guess I would just ask why you don't think it's groundbreaking. It's potentially comparable to Arrested and 30 Rock but I'm hard pressed to name another show that bats around and subverts every trope, regularly breaks the 4th wall and half the episodes are themed/concept/homages. Can you watch this show after Frasier and say hey, these are pretty similar sitcoms? And I'm not trying to poo poo on Community. You can easily say it's clever or it's smart when it does those things, but you'd have to work to convince me there's anything groundbreaking about it. It was the funniest show on TV during its second season, and it had some great moments in season three, and season five has been pretty strong. So again, I like the show, but I just think some people find it more impressive than it seems to me. Fast Luck fucked around with this message at 18:10 on Apr 15, 2014 |
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Android Blues posted:I get it for Jeff (he's settling into an ordinary life!), but I feel like it does Britta short shrift. He doesn't usually treat her that well or get along with her in particular, so it kind of feels like they're doing "remember the first season? When they liked each other? Well, that's why they still do now!". I guess I don't really get why Britta would want to be with him. I haven't really gotten the idea that they dislike each other. They bicker like an old married couple, sure, but that's not out of spite or dislike or anything other than the fact that she's an enthusiastic, optimistic idealist and he's a pessimistic realist. In fact, I'd say there's no pair in the study group that is closer now that Troy is off the show.
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Android Blues posted:I get it for Jeff (he's settling into an ordinary life!), but I feel like it does Britta short shrift. He doesn't usually treat her that well or get along with her in particular, so it kind of feels like they're doing "remember the first season? When they liked each other? Well, that's why they still do now!". I guess I don't really get why Britta would want to be with him. On that note, if the next episode cuts to black after Jeff kisses Annie again, it'd be masterful.
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Apr 15, 2014 20:12
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Abed sitting alone at the first season table, without axe marks, daydreaming.
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Unmerciful posted:Can you watch this show after Frasier and say hey, these are pretty similar sitcoms? No because Frasier is actually far funnier, especially over the last 2.5 seasons of Community.
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Billy on the Street with Joel McHale: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HxoaT-6tfA Spoiler alert: It's awesome.
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Lugaloco posted:Billy on the Street with Joel McHale: I kind of hate that guy's voice, but the part at the end where they were just screaming at each other was pretty funny.
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It's kinda sad that this may be the last Community episode.
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It probably won't be, though. Even if the ratings have been dipping (and I don't count on them going up tonight, Community finales are almost always series lows) every day that passes with no cancellation notice is good because it means there's negotiations in progress. And remember, NBC has gently caress all to replace it with. Besides, the news has been mostly positive. This is probably the most optimistic I've been about a renewal for this show. But if it is the end, well, at least this season was pretty great.
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Plus like aren't they short to syndication? From a financial viewpoint it makes more sense to do a short season like they've been and get it out of the way.
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Mexcillent posted:Plus like aren't they short to syndication? From a financial viewpoint it makes more sense to do a short season like they've been and get it out of the way. They're already in syndication elsewhere. 80 is the new magic number. I think this is episode 97 overall?
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kayakyakr posted:They're already in syndication elsewhere. 80 is the new magic number. I think this is episode 97 overall? 100 is considered the magic magic number, but 88 is the generally acceptable magic number. 97 is in that weird spot where it's oh so close to 100 that there's weird poo poo that can happen like put-together clip shows or supplemental material to even it out if need be. But Sony sees $$$ and they're going to aggressively shop it no matter what happens with NBC. NBC doesn't like Community but knows it's not going to do well in that slot anyway, and Sony is basically giving it to them for free. But unlike Parks, NBC makes nothing off the backend, so they may just think, throw Parks to the wolves for its final season and try something else at 8:30. Sony can't hold "The Blacklist" over NBC's heads this season like the did to get the fifth season of Community last year - contracts are already signed. It's kind of a toss-up, really. Depends on what NBC sees in its development, whether Sony can extract any leverage, and whether or not there's some other network/Hulu willing to pick p a bit of a tab to put it on their schedule. Best bet? Don't worry about it. Enjoy the finale.
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