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gameplusmeagan
Apr 2, 2014

I play games and sometimes the things I say are of a humorous variety.
I'm gonna go for it and post but if anybody notices anything I should tweak or change just let me know!

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mbt
Aug 13, 2012

gameplusmeagan posted:

I'm gonna go for it and post but if anybody notices anything I should tweak or change just let me know!

One hour no replies during a workday? Guess it's good, post it!

If you actually want helpful criticism maybe let it sit longer for people to watch it.

gameplusmeagan
Apr 2, 2014

I play games and sometimes the things I say are of a humorous variety.

Mortimer posted:

One hour no replies during a workday? Guess it's good, post it!

If you actually want helpful criticism maybe let it sit longer for people to watch it.

Sorry, I've been anxious and my schedule is weird today. I can pull it and wait for tips if you think that'd be best.

mbt
Aug 13, 2012

gameplusmeagan posted:

Sorry, I've been anxious and my schedule is weird today. I can pull it and wait for tips if you think that'd be best.

If it's already up there's just no point in posting about it in here. Don't pull it, just roll with what you have now

Sally
Jan 9, 2007


Don't post Small Dash!
nine-gear crow and I are prepping for a new LP and I was looking to gather some data before we started it. As part of that LP, I wanted to ask the LP forum for their thoughts on a particular game franchise. (Your answers are relevant to the LP in question).

I'd like to use these answers as "evidence", so to speak, so please be brutally honest. If you adore these games, don't hold back. Let it all out. If you hate this series, please also let it be known. I don't need it to be super long or descriptive, just your honest gut reaction to them.

The game series in question:



So, Let's Play Forum, what are your thoughts on the Killzone trilogy?*

*opinions of Killzone: Shadow Fall and Killzone: Mercenary need not apply, but will also accept opinions on Killzone: Liberation

VolticSurge
Jul 23, 2013

Just your friendly neighborhood photobomb raptor.



Blind Sally posted:

nine-gear crow and I are prepping for a new LP and I was looking to gather some data before we started it. As part of that LP, I wanted to ask the LP forum for their thoughts on a particular game franchise. (Your answers are relevant to the LP in question).

I'd like to use these answers as "evidence", so to speak, so please be brutally honest. If you adore these games, don't hold back. Let it all out. If you hate this series, please also let it be known. I don't need it to be super long or descriptive, just your honest gut reaction to them.

The game series in question:



So, Let's Play Forum, what are your thoughts on the Killzone trilogy?*

*opinions of Killzone: Shadow Fall and Killzone: Mercenary need not apply, but will also accept opinions on Killzone: Liberation

I thought the first one was meh,liked the second and third in spite of my hatred for most of the cast.

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.
I really like the Killzone series as a whole. They have a really cool art design, despite the lack of colours in the first two, and the weapons are really great looking (such as the Helghast AR with the massive barrel of ammo and secondary shotgun on it). They're very technically impressive games, and they play pretty well, though the first is really rough. Also the Helghast are really cool, even if they are totally ripped off from Jin-Roh :v:

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
Isn't this an interest check?

EDIT: not that I particularly care, I just want you to be safe Blind Sally!

Suspicious Dish fucked around with this message at 02:16 on Apr 16, 2014

Sally
Jan 9, 2007


Don't post Small Dash!

Suspicious Dish posted:

Isn't this an interest check?

EDIT: not that I particularly care, I just want you to be safe Blind Sally!

No. The thread is going ahead regardless. I was hoping to get some feedback and quotes on the games themselves for a pet theory I have surrounding the series.

(We've already put in way too much effort setting it up to not go ahead).

Killrrhubarb
Feb 11, 2014

Girl you like them plants?

Suspicious Dish posted:

Isn't this an interest check?

EDIT: not that I particularly care, I just want you to be safe Blind Sally!

It's not an interest check in that they're not seeing if anyone is interested in the LP, bt rather what peoples thoughts are on the Killzone Series.

My thoughts: They're a mediocre first person shooter with some interesting bits, but overall pretty bland. The story wasn't too inspired or interesting, either. There are definitely better FPS, but worse ones too.

JT Jag
Aug 30, 2009

#1 Jaguars Sunk Cost Fallacy-Haver
I have no thoughts regarding the Killzone series as I never played it.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
Played Killzone 2 and 3, loved both of them. The gameplay was great for an FPS and the controls + the way you moved felt a lot more "real" compared to something like Call of Duty. Your character can't spin 180 degrees in a second and shoot people in the face, which in turn makes moving around and being more tactical with your approach much more rewarding. The class system is cool and, from what I remember, doesn't overlap much if at all which makes every character useful in fights.

I don't recall the story too much, but I personally really like the enemy character design (The Helghast). There's something about them that really appeals to my taste, maybe its those glowing red eyes they have.

Despite all it's criticism, I would still purchase the Killzone game on PS4 because I like the franchise.

Radec and Visari both have some good lines and Visari (Brian Cox) delivers a really good performance with his speeches. I don't remember being too fond of Rico on the other hand, something made me want to punch his face.

Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

On the moon... they don't make Neo Kobe Pizza.

Killzone is a series that Guerrilla Games spent far too much time writing back story to justify their Space WW2 scenario as being a realistic one and too little time applying it in any meaningful way. If you spend a little time looking into Killzone's "canon", you'll find a plethora of history, dates, names, and such regarding humanity's expansion into the stars, the Helghan Corporation and their colonization and subsequent monopoly over Vekta, the straining relations and tensions between Helghan and Earth, and the ensuing conflict (that happens before any of the games) where Earth forcibly deports an entire planet to a death ball where they become radical Post-WW1 Space Germany with Gas Mask Nazis. There's a ton of interesting stuff going on, but you never see it in any of the games.

The games are visual showcases with bog standard gameplay that ultimately serve as interactive hardware sizzle reels for whatever they're put out on. It angers me that Killzone has an interesting story, but every game is just "The Space Nazis are bad, go kill them" (except Mercenary which was "Space Nazis AND Space Americans are bad, go kill them for money"). Killzone 2 is probably the best one of the bunch, with Mercenary as runner up solely because it lets you kill ISA scum and it arguably has the best online play in the series.

Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011


Killzone is a series that desperately wants to be Modern Warfare, but fails because it's a forgettable FPS series. The third is notable for having enemies that like to spam grenades. And as previously noted, the games are basically hardware porn.

If you're thinking of buying these games, yourself a favor and pickup Resistance instead. Preferably the third one.

Zain
Dec 6, 2009

It's only forever, not long at all

Blind Sally posted:

*opinions of Killzone: Shadow Fall and Killzone: Mercenary need not apply, but will also accept opinions on Killzone: Liberation

I only played Killzone 2, but I will say that the main villain has some of the best lines and dialog in any video game in the shooter genre. The multiplayer was surprisingly entertaining, but the main game was bogged down with things like infinite spawning enemies until you move up 10 more feet.

neetengie
Jul 17, 2013

Shittiest taste in anime and video games.

kirbysuperstar posted:

I really like the Killzone series as a whole. They have a really cool art design, despite the lack of colours in the first two, and the weapons are really great looking (such as the Helghast AR with the massive barrel of ammo and secondary shotgun on it). They're very technically impressive games, and they play pretty well, though the first is really rough. Also the Helghast are really cool, even if they are totally ripped off from Jin-Roh :v:

I'd have to agree with this post. I think the series would have been better if you played as the Helghans and if the first game was about taking back their homeland, but the way their culture/politics are written that would need a complete rewrite.

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

neetengie posted:

I'd have to agree with this post. I think the series would have been better if you played as the Helghans and if the first game was about taking back their homeland, but the way their culture/politics are written that would need a complete rewrite.

Oh yeah, ever since the first one I wanted them to do a C&C type thing where you can do a little campaign for both sides. Then of course, Mercenary kinda sorta did that!

copy
Jul 26, 2007

Blind Sally posted:

So, Let's Play Forum, what are your thoughts on the Killzone trilogy?

I don't remember much about the first two but I remember having a blast in the multiplayer for the third one. Specifically I remember the attack/defend maps being super fun and I remember the Helghast commander guy being so supportive and positive that I was always disappointed when I wasn't on the space-nazi team. Seriously the other team's narrator was such a cock. Nothing was ever good enough for him and he would complain even if your team won. Compared to the Helghast narrator where even if you lost the guy was all just "Vee vill try again for ze glory of Helghan!"

So I guess if nothing else they should get credit for taking a throwaway announcer character and using that as the foundation for the World's First Endearing Space-Nazi.

TheLastRoboKy
May 2, 2009

Finishing the game with everyone else's continues
Been sitting on this one a week procrastinating the heck out of it, ready for any thoughts anyone would like to share on it!

quote:

Warhammer 40,000 Space Marine: The Codex Astartes Pop-Up Book



The Games Workshop franchise of Warhammer 40,000 is a crazy mish-mash of ideas, monsters, aliens, heroes and villains all headbutting each other in a setting that happily embraces the terms grim and dark like they were its childhood toys. The rule of cool is cranked to the maximum and every day someone is trying to think of a way to turn that crank even further without making everything explode (too much), and nothing typifies this over the top slam jam of ideas quite like a Space Marine.

Bigger than an average human and stuffed to the cheeks with a mess of extra organs that let them do anything from spit poison to eat your memories, the Space Marine of 40K is a giant clad in high tech wargear that conjures up images of old armoured knights. In one hand is a gun that shoots bullets that explode, in the other is a sword that is a chainsaw, and in front of them are insurmountable numbers of foes that are horrifying and ridiculous in equal measure. It is generally expected that the Space Marine will beat these things rather horribly as well.

In 2011 THQ published Space Marine with development of the game done by Relic Entertainment, those fine fellows that also made the Dawn of War series of Real Time Strategy games. A third person action game was a bit of a departure from what Relic were known for, but I think they acquitted themselves quite well with a game that slaps you in the shoes of a heroic Space Marine of the Ultramarines Chapter and says “Go stick your pointy chainsaw stick into that green guy and watch it explode.”

I'll be playing through the game with my good buddy Coolguy along for the ride, and once we're done with the main campaign we'll sink our teeth into the fun co-op survival modes and the unfortunately dodgy as all hell multiplayer. We hope you enjoy watching, I know I'm certainly going to enjoy playing it for you.

Videos

Campaign
Episode 1Youtube

I'll have a proper Polsy up if/when it goes live, and a similar sort of set-up of character/enemy/weapon profiles and whatnot like we did with Dawn of War 2 on a subsequent page.

my dad
Oct 17, 2012

this shall be humorous

copy posted:

World's First Endearing Space-Nazi.

TheLastRoboKy posted:

Been sitting on this one a week procrastinating the heck out of it, ready for any thoughts anyone would like to share on it!



I'll have a proper Polsy up if/when it goes live, and a similar sort of set-up of character/enemy/weapon profiles and whatnot like we did with Dawn of War 2 on a subsequent page.

Your timing is impeccable.

There's something off about Coolguye's voice. Did you change your mic setup or something?

dscruffy1
Nov 22, 2007

Look out!
Nap Ghost

quote:

Space Marine

Everything looks/sounds good aside from Coolguy maybe being a little echo-y. Nothing terribly distracting though.

Any plans on delving into why Ultramarines are alternately loved and hated? It's a realm of fanhate I've always found kinda fascinating.

TheLastRoboKy
May 2, 2009

Finishing the game with everyone else's continues
I haven't really done anything differently to how I did the parts I edited for the Fall of Cybertron LP, but I'll talk to Coolguy about any little editing I can do to fix that echo. It might just be volume, it kind of felt like he was a little loud but my ears are kind of dumb and I'm happy to hear thoughts on that if it's the cause.

my dad posted:

Your timing is impeccable.

I couldn't not post after a lead-in like that.

dscruffy1 posted:

Any plans on delving into why Ultramarines are alternately loved and hated? It's a realm of fanhate I've always found kinda fascinating.

I fully expect the thread will be full of everyone's opinions on why they like/dislike them (mostly dislike), but it's one of the topics I hope to just yammer over in video form too because it was something I saw come up a lot before and after the game's release.

CommissarMega
Nov 18, 2008

THUNDERDOME LOSER
Honestly, while it does echo a bit, it doesn't bother me much- but then again, that may just be me :shobon:

Lazyfire
Feb 4, 2006

God saves. Satan Invests

Blind Sally posted:

So, Let's Play Forum, what are your thoughts on the Killzone trilogy?*

*opinions of Killzone: Shadow Fall and Killzone: Mercenary need not apply, but will also accept opinions on Killzone: Liberation

Like I said before/after the video we did a while back: I've never played any of the games, but my thoughts on them made it seem like a series built to emulate Halo to an extent, and were more an Also-Ran rather than a blockbuster franchise. The fact that it got three sequels makes it seem like people must have played it, but you guys were the 2nd and 3rd person I've ever heard say they've played the games after kalon Zombie.

That said, the Killzone 2 E3 reveal for the PS3 needs to be in the OP because holy poo poo most games today don't look that good and Sony tried to pass it off as PS3 footage.

JordanKai
Aug 19, 2011

Get high and think of me.



I love all the Killzone games outside of the first one and I don't understand why the series catches so much flak as a whole. :(

I'm happy the two of you are doing an LP of these games because that means I can scratch it off my ever-growing list!

Lazyfire posted:

That said, the Killzone 2 E3 reveal for the PS3 needs to be in the OP because holy poo poo most games today don't look that good and Sony tried to pass it off as PS3 footage.

Sony and Guerilla lying about graphical fidelity is as much a staple of the Killzone franchise as guns are! :v:

JordanKai fucked around with this message at 00:21 on Apr 17, 2014

VolticSurge
Jul 23, 2013

Just your friendly neighborhood photobomb raptor.



TheLastRoboKy posted:

Been sitting on this one a week procrastinating the heck out of it, ready for any thoughts anyone would like to share on it!


I'll have a proper Polsy up if/when it goes live, and a similar sort of set-up of character/enemy/weapon profiles and whatnot like we did with Dawn of War 2 on a subsequent page.

Finally,a LP by someone who accentuates the positive rather than the negative. *cough* Niggurath *cough*

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
Most likely it's just my mic levels, I noticed after comparing Fall of Cybertron and Call of Duty that my mic enjoys adjusting its 'sweet spot' at random intervals. We can do some further testing with that. Appreciate the feedback on that, y'all.

Mico
Jan 29, 2011

A billion dollars.

Coolguye posted:

Most likely it's just my mic levels, I noticed after comparing Fall of Cybertron and Call of Duty that my mic enjoys adjusting its 'sweet spot' at random intervals. We can do some further testing with that. Appreciate the feedback on that, y'all.

Skype has a habit of turning on the "Automatically Adjust Microphone" option when you aren't looking.

Turtlicious
Sep 17, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Blind Sally posted:

nine-gear crow and I are prepping for a new LP and I was looking to gather some data before we started it. As part of that LP, I wanted to ask the LP forum for their thoughts on a particular game franchise. (Your answers are relevant to the LP in question).

I'd like to use these answers as "evidence", so to speak, so please be brutally honest. If you adore these games, don't hold back. Let it all out. If you hate this series, please also let it be known. I don't need it to be super long or descriptive, just your honest gut reaction to them.

The game series in question:



So, Let's Play Forum, what are your thoughts on the Killzone trilogy?*

*opinions of Killzone: Shadow Fall and Killzone: Mercenary need not apply, but will also accept opinions on Killzone: Liberation

You're not supposed to post interest checks, so you better put up a video soon.

Color Printer
May 9, 2011

You get used to it. I don't
even see the code. All I see
is Ipecac, Scapular, Polyphemus...


Turtlicious posted:

You're not supposed to post interest checks, so you better put up a video soon.

It's been already established that it wasn't an interest check in the usual sense.

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!

Turtlicious posted:

You're not supposed to post interest checks, so you better put up a video soon.

Asking what the forum thinks of the game is not an interest check, he already says in his post that he's doing the LP. If he were asking if he should LP it then that would count.

edit: beaten

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

Turtlicious posted:

You're not supposed to post interest checks, so you better put up a video soon.

That's not an interest check, they're doing the LP regardless of forum opinions.

Blind Sally posted:

No. The thread is going ahead regardless. I was hoping to get some feedback and quotes on the games themselves for a pet theory I have surrounding the series.

(We've already put in way too much effort setting it up to not go ahead).

Edit: :argh:

Turtlicious
Sep 17, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Color Printer posted:

It's been already established that it wasn't an interest check in the usual sense.

No I read it, I just didn't know if it was ok or not. To not just post white noise, I'll say I would definitely love to see an "SA" quality LP of Killzone.

Sally
Jan 9, 2007


Don't post Small Dash!

Turtlicious posted:

You're not supposed to post interest checks, so you better put up a video soon.

Easy, tiger.

Again, it's not an interest check. It's happening. I want "real goon opinions" for the first update but we're not going to put out subpar/half-finished content. Video and audio are recorded and in the editing process.

But speaking of which...

What's your opinion on the Killzone trilogy?

Kadorhal
Jun 3, 2013

Look, just sign the stupid petition. I've got stuff to do.

Blind Sally posted:

What's your opinion on the Killzone trilogy?

When I got a PS3 and needed a controller I bought a digital-camo one that is bundled with Killzone 3 in some places.

That is my entire Killzone experience.

FractalSandwich
Apr 25, 2010

Blind Sally posted:

What's your opinion on the Killzone trilogy?
I have never played any Killzone game or had any interest in playing any Killzone game, but they talked about it on Idle Thumbs a couple of times and that was pretty funny, so as far as I'm concerned it's nothing but a very indirect source of good.

The GIG
Jun 28, 2011

Yeah, I say "Shit" a shit-ton of times. What of it, shithead?
Every Killzone game I've played felt like it was on the cusp of being something amazing but only ended up being "Just Okay".

Brainamp
Sep 4, 2011

More Zen than Zenyatta

Blind Sally posted:

Easy, tiger.

Again, it's not an interest check. It's happening. I want "real goon opinions" for the first update but we're not going to put out subpar/half-finished content. Video and audio are recorded and in the editing process.

But speaking of which...

What's your opinion on the Killzone trilogy?

Generally you would save discussion of the game for the thread I would think. :shrug:


TheLastRoboKy posted:

Space Marine

Only problem I saw was that you said Warhammer forty thousand, when I'm pretty sure the proper proper pronunciation is forty K. :colbert:

Tin Tim
Jun 4, 2012

Live by the pun - Die by the pun

Blind Sally posted:

What's your opinion on the Killzone trilogy?
I never killed a zone and it sounds rude if you ask me

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General Ironicus
Aug 21, 2008

Something about this feels kinda hinky
On Sunday the 27th Chip, me, Voidburger, Geop, and Kamoc will be holding a panel on LP at the Chicago Comic and Entertainment Expo, details here. I'd be really excited to see whoever can make it, but we know that's not practical for most people. Kamoc will be filming the whole thing and doing interviews. If you can't make it but want to participate you can submit a question. We'll be drawing questions from a hat during the Q&A, time permitting. Ask them here or on twitter or wherever else we'll see them. We've already got these so far.

General Ironicus fucked around with this message at 15:54 on Apr 17, 2014

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