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I thought Glee already did a Very Special Sex Episode.
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# ? Apr 16, 2014 01:59 |
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 13:31 |
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Well this one didn't have Holly Holiday in it. We're now three for three with damned quality episodes. New York Glee is something else, and yes it certainly hurts me to say that after the New York Glee we used to have.
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# ? Apr 16, 2014 05:25 |
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I went searching the internet for wallpapers featuring Blaine and instead somehow ended up with this: I miss all the newbies except Ryder
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# ? Apr 16, 2014 16:02 |
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foolish_fool posted:I miss all the newbies except Ryder I'd rather have Ryder than Jake
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# ? Apr 17, 2014 01:51 |
I liked Kitty, but all the other newbies were pretty forgetful and meh.
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# ? Apr 17, 2014 04:00 |
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Has there ever been an episode with so little Rachel? Also, seriously, I love musicals so I'm not that into realism, but I can't force myself to believe for one second that anyone would put up with Mercedes' poo poo. Anne Whateley fucked around with this message at 04:09 on Apr 17, 2014 |
# ? Apr 17, 2014 04:04 |
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I think there's been at least two episodes where Rachel just flat-out didn't appear. Anyway, the no sex before marriage thing? I get the impression lots of people put up with that. I think the best part of the episode was when Sam, Mercedes, and Artie started singing in the middle of the street and Artie's date just kinda shuffled there awkwardly, wondering what the gently caress.
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# ? Apr 17, 2014 04:45 |
BrianWilly posted:I think the best part of the episode was when Sam, Mercedes, and Artie started singing in the middle of the street and Artie's date just kinda shuffled there awkwardly, wondering what the gently caress.
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# ? Apr 17, 2014 04:56 |
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I shouldn't have laughed at Sam freaking out at Artie testing positive, but god help me I did. I totally did.
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# ? Apr 17, 2014 22:26 |
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SamuraiFoochs posted:I shouldn't have laughed at Sam freaking out at Artie testing positive, but god help me I did. I totally did. Sam is the best character.
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# ? Apr 17, 2014 22:38 |
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Error 404 posted:Sam is the best character. "SHAME ARTIE! I'M SHAMING YOU!" Sam was gold the entire episode. Also yeah, I try not to disrespect people's beliefs but the one thing I will never ever understand is the "no sex before marriage" thing if you really really love someone. I did think it was...strangely cool how they did the opposite end of the spectrum with Artie, though. Happy middle, people.
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# ? Apr 17, 2014 22:54 |
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Pretty much everyone who isn't Rachel or Mercedes owns in NYGlee. Edit: and normally Kurt annoys me, but even he's been cool lately.
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# ? Apr 17, 2014 22:56 |
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I think Glee does a lot to try and be progressive about sexuality and sexual expression, but there's always gonna be that tiny slice of it that resembles middle-aged parents wagging their fingers at the youngins about such things. For all that it's not shy about flaunting the nubile bodies of its nubile cast in nubile ways, it's also always had this glorified view of virginity and has tended to be biased towards prudishness instead of...uh, sluttiness. Of course, the last time we had the "waiting for marriage" topic on this show was with Teen Jesus and his bone stone, and I think we can all agree that this was profoundly preferable to that.
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# ? Apr 17, 2014 23:38 |
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BrianWilly posted:I think Glee does a lot to try and be progressive about sexuality and sexual expression, but there's always gonna be that tiny slice of it that resembles middle-aged parents wagging their fingers at the youngins about such things. For all that it's not shy about flaunting the nubile bodies of its nubile cast in nubile ways, it's also always had this glorified view of virginity and has tended to be biased towards prudishness instead of...uh, sluttiness. Well, in a sense it could also be just a realistic portrayal of the viewpoints some have. Mercedes has been thoroughly established as devoutly Christian - the environment she's been raised in would absolutely have preached the 'no sex before marriage' thing. While the show seems to side with her, the viewer can pretty much make up their own mind to respect her choice or think she's just trying to justify the views she was indoctrinated with. I mean, it's hard to say the show is actually preaching it given the total lack of judgement on characters who have had sex before marriage, but like you said - 'tiny slice'.
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# ? Apr 18, 2014 10:26 |
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Oh it's not specifically the "no sex until marriage" thing, which certainly fits with Mercedes and I thought was finely-written and enjoyable anyway. It's that, taken on a grand aggregate, Glee's inclination is to depict sex in and of itself as problematic and messy...whereas abstaining from sex -- or displaying any other generally conservative attitudes towards sex -- tends to be depicted as rewarding and "correct" on this show. Season 1 obviously had the pregnancy storyline which is a time-honored (and accurate) scare tactic against teen sexuality. But even regardless of that, remember the Madonna tribute episode where Finn, Rachel, and Emma contemplated losing their virginities? Only Finn ended up actually having sex while Rachel and Emma decided to wait, and Finn seemed to end up regretting that he did the deed while Rachel and Emma were portrayed to be making smart choices by waiting. Season 2 followed that trend with the sex education episode with Gwyneth Paltrow, which was pretty good about paying lip service to young sexuality, sure, but still had a lot of ironically pro-abstinence messages. Burt's sex talk with Kurt, as heartwarming and poetic as it was, was basically one big lecture against recreational sex. Meanwhile, half the Glee club ended up in the abstinence club by the episode's end, for one reason or another. In season 3, the most vile and ruthless antagonist they could conceive of to go against Kurt and Blaine was Sebastian the super slutty gay bar superstar, intentionally contrasted against Kurt and Blaine's more "wholesome" lifestyle. Season 4 made a big fuss about Rachel daring to dare to go topless for a student film, with Kurt outright calling her "slutty Barbie" at one point. Then it had that whole thing with Brody being a hooker which was apparently just super bad and mean of him and worse than being a drug dealer or something. And now season 5 gives us a whole episode about Artie getting STDs from sleeping around, while Mercedes is vindicated for her desire to wait. Again, it's not that I mind Glee doing this, and it's not as if I don't agree with many of these messages anyway, and it's also not that there are never any positive or rewarding depictions of sex on the show at all. It's just interesting to note, from a partial stance, that Glee on a whole isn't really partial about the issue. Sex, in Glee's worldview, should only be done with the utmost care and precision and most definitely with lots of feelings involved, and there's no greater sin than to treat sex casually or as something you just do for fun. And so it's hard to shake the image of Ryan Murphy and the Murphettes being stern parental figures sternly-speechifying at Glee's mostly-young audience whenever they tackle this sort of thing, and I wouldn't bet on their approach radically changing any time soon.
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# ? Apr 18, 2014 12:36 |
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Counterpoint: Santana and Brittany, Santana and Quinn, Santana and lots of people
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# ? Apr 18, 2014 18:03 |
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Sub Rosa posted:Counterpoint: Santana and Brittany, Santana and Quinn, Santana and lots of people Explanation: Even Glee recognises that Naya Rivera is too hot for their normal rules to apply
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# ? Apr 18, 2014 18:12 |
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I was going to try and write a point/counterpoint between Mercedes and Quinn as the two devoutly Christian characters on the show and their approaches to sex, but Quinn is such a loving trainwreck, you guys. She's like a connect-the-dots where there should be about 50 dots but you're only given, like, ten on the paper, so you have to draw in the other 40 dots before you can actually try to connect them. And then you have about a 5% chance of drawing anything resembling a coherent picture. I actually had a conversation last weekend with a girl who watches Glee. She thinks Ryan Murphy is a borderline genius and the show's approach to character development is brilliant. Her favorite characters are Blaine and Kurt and Tina, of all people. And then I started to say, "But Quinn..." and she went, "Oh, no, Quinn is awful. She had like ten personalities at least. I'll give you Quinn."
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# ? Apr 18, 2014 19:19 |
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xeria posted:Tina This is literally blowing my mind
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# ? Apr 18, 2014 19:47 |
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Santana? Is, like, one of the show's main arguments against sex as an entertaining, casual lifestyle. She used to have sex with lots of people with a strict policy that it's just meaningless, body-warming, recreational pleasure for her, but then had to realize over time that sex with feelings is so much more rewarding and hasn't slept around since then. Which doesn't stop Glee from flaunting Naya Rivera's appeal, but is pretty in line with its general message of "Hey hey look at our hot cast!...but seriously kids, don't do the thing." I think one good example of the rare times that sex was treated positively and encouragingly on the show was during Schuester's wedding where everyone hosed everyone else and it was just treated as something fun and healthy and not the biggest deal in the world.
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# ? Apr 18, 2014 22:24 |
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Speaking of sex, apparently Naya Rivera and Big Sean are no longer engaged/together at all because she found out he was hooking up with one of her cast mates. I'd link to an article, but I'm not sure if the OP minds.
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# ? Apr 18, 2014 22:45 |
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Coconut Indian posted:Speaking of sex, apparently Naya Rivera and Big Sean are no longer engaged/together at all because she found out he was hooking up with one of her cast mates. I'd link to an article, but I'm not sure if the OP minds. I'm gonna speculate Bree based on how quickly she vanished.
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# ? Apr 18, 2014 23:02 |
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This week's songs are up! Pretty much a giant Rachel hoe-down if that's what you're into.
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# ? Apr 21, 2014 00:58 |
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BrianWilly posted:This week's songs are up! Pretty much a giant Rachel hoe-down if that's what you're into. This is the week you always wanted, the truth!
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# ? Apr 21, 2014 01:06 |
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Everything was VERY HAPPY in this episode. Rachel was a smashing success! Everyone loves Mr Schue! There was a baby born! Sue found love! Santana and Tina returned to cheer on their friend! But the best surprise -- KAROFFSKY RETURNED, beret and jacket. I was really happy to see that they brought back some of our old favorites for Rachel's BIG SCARY NIGHTMARE™. Overall? Yawn of an episode.
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# ? Apr 23, 2014 21:08 |
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We would lose nothing if we never see Sue ever again. Absolutely nothing. I will say that it was a great episode for background moments, especially in the loft and in the gay bar.
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# ? Apr 23, 2014 23:07 |
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The dress Santana was wearing in the gay bar, daaamn girl! Almost enough to make me go straight.
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# ? Apr 24, 2014 05:17 |
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BrianWilly posted:
I did quite enjoy the background faces in the scene where Rachel yells at Sue. Blaine comes out of the bathroom and is like "wtf, what is going on?" trying to piece the scene together. I'm trying to figure out where they're going to go from here because this episode was Rachel making all of her dreams come true and could have worked as another season/series finale, like when the original group graduated.
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# ? Apr 24, 2014 06:07 |
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Honestly, I liked this episode, but Sue's plot weirded me out. Were they expecting us to enjoy her finding joy and happiness in an episode where she was at her most rude and nasty? Rachel was right, and her one-night-stand was an idiot. Can't hate him though, because Chris Parnell rules.
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# ? Apr 24, 2014 06:15 |
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That was a good episode even though they ruined a song that was mentioned at least three times as being completely amazing and important by making it a Sue duet. I also fast forwarded through the Will and Sue song, which I assume was completely awful. Read some spoilers/episode summaries for the remaining three episodes and this show is going to get extra stupid, but it's been doing that for years so whatever. At least Lea Michele gets to sing. Her album has grown on me a bit. The songs are perfectly within her range.
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# ? Apr 24, 2014 07:10 |
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Hella rumors abounds that Naya Rivera was fired from Glee and, as a result, Santana got cut from this season's finale. Sorry about your girl, Rarity~
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# ? Apr 29, 2014 03:48 |
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Yeah there's been some weird shite going on with her for the recent filming, and as much as I hate to feed the rumor mill, all the usual reliable spoil sources are agreeing that unless something drastic changes within the next week, she won't be in the finale at all. Feel bad about it as you enjoy this week's songs. Doo Wop (That Thing) -Mercedes and Santana Piece of My Heart -Blaine and Shirley MacLaine Story of My Life -Kurt and Blaine (link on the page didn't work so this is another link) The Rose -Rachel Wake Me Up -Rachel
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# ? Apr 29, 2014 05:11 |
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Did she go Lima Heights Adjacent on someone?
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# ? Apr 29, 2014 05:38 |
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There was some hearsay that she delayed a whole day of filming earlier this month because she didn't want to deal with paparazzi on set after her breakup with Big Sean, according to fans who were actually on set that day. A week or two later she supposedly -- again I stress, supposedly -- got into some sort of fight with Lea, after which she was evidently written out of the remaining episodes. (That second part about some kind of diva smackdown on set sounds to me like gossip rags projecting the storylines of the show onto the actors, which is like the fifth or sixth time it's happened -- Remember when Naya was supposedly dating Mark Salling? -- but there was absolutely something sketchy happening during filming in these last couple episodes.)
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# ? Apr 29, 2014 06:21 |
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Yeah, the only thing that's been confirmed in multiple places is that she's definitely not in the season finale when she was apparently supposed to be. Everything else is gossip mill, mostly related to Lea (up to and including that Big Sean cheated on her with Lea).
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# ? Apr 29, 2014 06:53 |
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I'm so happy! I was so afraid she and Brit would come back to the show and I'd be compelled to watch again. I'm free! I haven't been watching! It's great!
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# ? Apr 29, 2014 06:53 |
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Well, uh, Brittany's still back for the season finale . Heather's already filmed her scenes.
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# ? Apr 29, 2014 08:17 |
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courtney_beth posted:But the best surprise -- KAROFFSKY RETURNED, beret and jacket. I was really happy to see that they brought back some of our old favorites for Rachel's BIG SCARY NIGHTMARE™. I'd still like to see at least Karofsky have a happier send-off. Since the gang's all in New York, could they not have a NYC Pride-themed episode? That'd be a great way to explain Dave coming up to visit and seeing how he's progressed. But it'll probably never be more than wishful thinking - unless Santana's nana's on her deathbed and she needs a quickie beard. I'm actually enjoying the show a lot more now that they've said "gently caress it" to Lima, brought back the original players and focused it on New York. They should have done that from the start - or else jettisoned the old cast completely in favour of the new kids, a la Degrassi's constant torch-passing.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 00:18 |
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Don't stop be-Dean-ing.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 01:10 |
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Tuna_Fish_Odyssey posted:Don't stop be-Dean-ing. Why did this make me think of a Supernatural/Glee crossover episode? Actually at the rate both shows are with odd, guest-star-y plot lines that would not surprise me in the least.
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