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phobo
Aug 7, 2008
I got a GE alarm clock when I was ten years old and it still works like new. (I am 31)

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TerryLennox
Oct 12, 2009

There is nothing tougher than a tough Mexican, just as there is nothing gentler than a gentle Mexican, nothing more honest than an honest Mexican, and above all nothing sadder than a sad Mexican. -R. Chandler.

Humphreys posted:

Well, the past few posts have definately knocked reality into me. Didn't know about all the heavy industry stuff they do.

EDIT: threads are not posts

They have about 300000 employees worldwide and have holdings in 160 countries.

http://www.ge.com/about-us/fact-sheet

They even have an entire range of IPs assigned to them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assigned_/8_IPv4_address_blocks

Hell, during my stint as an Enterprise Engineer at Dell, GE was one of the companies whose call handling policy was essentially "give 'em what they want, we'll bill them later", in warranty or not. I wasn't even allowed to troubleshoot with them, just send out a tech with a guesstimate of the parts needed to fix the problem. To get that level of support, you had to be buying several million dollars in equipment every year.

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat

GOTTA STAY FAI posted:

That's probably real wood, too.
:kiddo:

bigtom
May 7, 2007

Playing the solid gold hits and moving my liquid lips...

stealie72 posted:

I would say the reliability of GE consumer products, later turning into the mere existence of GE consumer products are obsolete and failed technologies.

Which is too bad, because I have a couple of excellent pre-1980 GE radios, one of which (original Super Radio) has served me well for AM DXing (which is probably an obsolete technology by now) and the other has been in pretty much daily use since the late 60s/early 70s.

I've been searching for a decent Superadio 1 or 2 forever - I bought the SR3 in 2002 for AM DX'ing (back when 1530 WSAI & 1520 WWKB played oldies - and for AM 74 out of Toronto), but the latest iteration branded as a RCA is even worse than the GE/Thompson SR3 as far as dial alignment, selectivity & sensitivity go.

The GE 80's electronics seemed to be bulletproof - my friend's SR 1 & 2's work perfectly, even after years of abuse. Scouring eBay now to get a SR2 in good condition...I don't need one, but those things would last FOREVER on D batteries and don't mind a day at the beach.

Back to the topic...my grandmother had me re hook up her 1989 40" Mitsubishi console TV - aside from the speakers intermittently cutting out, the picture is perfect and the colors look better than my Sharp Aquos. I'm not looking forward to the day she moves out of the house and I have to get that wood behemoth down the stairs without injury.

Edit: inches, not feet. I'm a moron.

bigtom has a new favorite as of 00:23 on Apr 14, 2014

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008
40 foot? I wouldn't want to carry one of these out either!


This guy took apart an old Sony Jumbotron module: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AclwH64eAkU Kinda interesting how each pixel is its own CRT.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Guy Axlerod posted:

40 foot? I wouldn't want to carry one of these out either!


This guy took apart an old Sony Jumbotron module: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AclwH64eAkU Kinda interesting how each pixel is its own CRT.

That was very informative. I now know something about Jumbotrons that I didn't think I wanted to know. Cheers!

Humphreys has a new favorite as of 11:21 on Apr 15, 2014

WITCHCRAFT
Aug 28, 2007

Berries That Burn

bigtom posted:

Back to the topic...my grandmother had me re hook up her 1989 40" Mitsubishi console TV - aside from the speakers intermittently cutting out, the picture is perfect and the colors look better than my Sharp Aquos. I'm not looking forward to the day she moves out of the house and I have to get that wood behemoth down the stairs without injury.

Edit: inches, not feet. I'm a moron.

I forget if I posted this ages ago, but my first TV when I moved out of my parents' house was a 36" CRT Sony Trinitron TV. Best picture I've ever seen on a SD TV... but that thing took three people to get up a one-person-wide stairwell and into the living room. Not only was it heavy as balls, there were no grips for moving it. Finally upgraded to a flatscreen HDTV last Christmas, and put the Trinitron on craigslist as "free, but you have to get it outside and take it away by yourself."

After 10+ people coming to see it in person and realizing gently caress I can't move that by myself, we finally found someone to take it. They forced it into the trunk of a hatchback and scraped their undercarriage all the way down the driveway because the car was sagging so badly in the rear.

According to specs online, the beast was 270 pounds. Compare that to the weight of modern flat screen TVs. :drat:

I still kinda wish I had it for playing SNES games; old consoles look like garbage on HDTVs.

WITCHCRAFT has a new favorite as of 09:38 on Apr 17, 2014

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.

Humphreys posted:

Here, have some Popular Science magazine covers! The B&W to color converter sounds intriguing and wouldn't mind knowing more about it.

Most of these are from when I started reading Popular Science as a kid. I used to love going to the library to grab a stack of them because I enjoyed their "gee whiz" approach to things.

It's hard to explain to people that everything was new at some point, and excited people just as much as new things do now. Victrolas were just as fabulous as iPods. Imagine, enjoying music whenever you like without having to play an instrument!

GWBBQ
Jan 2, 2005


p-hop posted:

I forget if I posted this ages ago, but my first TV when I moved out of my parents' house was a 36" CRT Sony Trinitron TV. Best picture I've ever seen on a SD TV... but that thing took three people to get up a one-person-wide stairwell and into the living room. Not only was it heavy as balls, there were no grips for moving it. Finally upgraded to a flatscreen HDTV last Christmas, and put the Trinitron on craigslist as "free, but you have to get it outside and take it away by yourself."

After 10+ people coming to see it in person and realizing gently caress I can't move that by myself, we finally found someone to take it. They forced it into the trunk of a hatchback and scraped their undercarriage all the way down the driveway because the car was sagging so badly in the rear.

According to specs online, the beast was 270 pounds. Compare that to the weight of modern flat screen TVs. :drat:

I still kinda wish I had it for playing SNES games; old consoles look like garbage on HDTVs.
The Trinitron Rule: if it's in the basement, it stays in the basement.

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




Dick Trauma posted:

Most of these are from when I started reading Popular Science as a kid. I used to love going to the library to grab a stack of them because I enjoyed their "gee whiz" approach to things.

It's hard to explain to people that everything was new at some point, and excited people just as much as new things do now. Victrolas were just as fabulous as iPods. Imagine, enjoying music whenever you like without having to play an instrument!



And much like today you had people moaning that this was ruining music:

quote:

Right here is the menace in machine-made music! The first rift in the lute has appeared. The cheaper of these instruments of the home are no longer being purchased as formerly, and all because the automatic music devices are usurping their places.

And what is the result? The child becomes indifferent to practice, for when music can be heard in the homes without the labor of study and close application, and without the slow process of acquiring a technic, it will be simply a question of time when the amateur disappears entirely, and with him a host of vocal and instrumental teachers, who will be without field or calling.

http://explorepahistory.com/odocument.php?docId=1-4-1A1

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Phonography is killing the musical instrument industry! :bahgawd:

BogDew
Jun 14, 2006

E:\FILES>quickfli clown.fli
And even further back once the Piano was full realized and people were able to play songs across multiple keys as opposed to the classic way of songs being composed within a fixed G.

I do like the fact (possibly aphoristic) that some of Beethoven's songs were unable to be played at their full intensity until iron plates began to be put into pianos.

Goober Peas
Jun 30, 2007

Check out my 'Vette, bro


GWBBQ posted:

The Trinitron Rule: if it's in the basement, it stays in the basement.

This. My parents bought a 15" Trinitron the year I was born. I hauled it around with me through college, my first apartment, my first home. It weighed at least 75 lbs. Finally died around the time of the digital conversion.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
I've got a 32 inch Sharp upstairs that I have no idea what we're going to do with. Moving it from the downstairs 7 years ago contributed to later back surgery.

I guess I could take it apart, discharge the capacitors, and throw it away in pieces like I did our old upright piano.

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
Bury me... in my enormous projection teeveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006
I used to have an old Magnavox, like this but the screen was maybe six inches bigger:

It weighed drat near 250 pounds. It was on top of a six foot TV stand and it took four of us to get it down and then we had to put it on a dolly to get it to the truck, and to get it on the truck we had to use a pneumatic jack to raise the drat thing up to the truck bed.

Larry Horseplay
Oct 24, 2002

The thing with tube TVs is that for each inch you made the tube bigger, you had to make the tube surface out of thicker and thicker glass to maintain its shape. So TV weight almost rose exponentially as you moved up in size.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Goober Peas posted:

This. My parents bought a 15" Trinitron the year I was born. I hauled it around with me through college, my first apartment, my first home. It weighed at least 75 lbs. Finally died around the time of the digital conversion.

Bah, I got two Sun GDM-20E20 (Trinitron) monitors from my university freshman year. They needed a special converter to plug into a PC, but they each did 1600x1200 and looked great at 20" 4:3.



I'd trade in my current LCD screens for a pair of those beauties again. Great color.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

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I have a 32" [I think, it's enormous] Sanyo flat CRT with component inputs and I would not trade it for the world. It is perfect for music gaming because it's basically lag-free, and has a great quality picture even with component inputs.

As a dude who does a lot of retro gaming and a lot of music gaming, it's a great TV.

... moving it, though, is painful. It tends to stay where it is for long periods of time. It's in the garage now since we're doing renovation projects and there's no room for it anywhere else. When I move it next, I think it's staying downstairs.

Doctor Bishop
Oct 22, 2013

To understand what happened at the diner, we use Mr. Papaya. This is upsetting because he is the friendliest of fruits.
All this talk about CRTs makes me wonder; anyone here happen to know why SED technology failed to take off like it did? From what I've been able to parse of the Wiki page for it, it basically seems to been patent/copyright/general legal poo poo that brought it down, but I'd like to hear the story in human-readable terms.

Vanagoon
Jan 20, 2008


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I had a Mitsubishi Diamond Plus 72 "Diamondtron" Monitor years ago, and that bastard was heavy too. I bought it from one of the computer sales at the Agricenter in Memphis and I about died getting it across the parking lot back to the car.

One of these:
http://www.mitsubishielectric.com.au/2347.htm

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

Doctor Bishop posted:

All this talk about CRTs makes me wonder; anyone here happen to know why SED technology failed to take off like it did?

From this article it sounds like they couldn't get costs down enough to the point where they'd be attractive vs. LCD or plasma displays. They'd probably be selling to a niche market of home theater spergs and maybe a slightly larger market of image/video editing professionals.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Pham Nuwen posted:

Bah, I got two Sun GDM-20E20 (Trinitron) monitors from my university freshman year. They needed a special converter to plug into a PC, but they each did 1600x1200 and looked great at 20" 4:3.


I used to have one of those as well. Great picture, weighed a TON and took up all your desk space.

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos
I used to have a 42 inch widescreen CRT and it took 3 guys to move it out of my house, it was ridiculously heavy.

GWBBQ
Jan 2, 2005


Larry Horseplay posted:

The thing with tube TVs is that for each inch you made the tube bigger, you had to make the tube surface out of thicker and thicker glass to maintain its shape. So TV weight almost rose exponentially as you moved up in size.
Not only was the glass needed for structure, the amount of leaded glass needed to keep x ray and other radiation emission increased with size because keeping the screen bright at bigger sizes required a more powerful electron gun (which was also more expensive.) The exponential growth of all components with size effectively limited CRTs to the mid 40 inch range.

Taking down a pair of ceiling-hung 44" monitors that weighed around 350 pounds was one of the more miserable things I've had to do at work. It was basically three guys with a ladder trying to avoid being crushed to death.

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

GWBBQ posted:

Taking down a pair of ceiling-hung 44" monitors that weighed around 350 pounds was one of the more miserable things I've had to do at work. It was basically three guys with a ladder trying to avoid being crushed to death.

I still have a 27" flat face CRT TV in the bedroom. It was the only thing I couldn't carry upstairs by myself when I moved. I checked online and it clocks in at 110 pounds.

GWBBQ
Jan 2, 2005


Mister Kingdom posted:

I still have a 27" flat face CRT TV in the bedroom. It was the only thing I couldn't carry upstairs by myself when I moved. I checked online and it clocks in at 110 pounds.
If your arms are long enough, the way to lift a CRT is to press the screen against your torso and hug it with your hands under the tapered part in the back. If not, you're going to have a miserable time lifting the TV. I have no problem with anything up to 32" and even some 37" ones, but I'm gigantic.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

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GWBBQ posted:


Taking down a pair of ceiling-hung 44" monitors that weighed around 350 pounds was one of the more miserable things I've had to do at work. It was basically three guys with a ladder trying to avoid being crushed to death.

Jesus, that sounds terrifying. :stare: No power lift platform or anything? At the university center I used work at during college, we had some huge ceiling mounted loudspeakers in our main auditorium, and they were probably that big, and I can't imagine the idea of taking them down without using the physical plant's lift platform.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


GWBBQ posted:

If your arms are long enough, the way to lift a CRT is to press the screen against your torso and hug it with your hands under the tapered part in the back. If not, you're going to have a miserable time lifting the TV. I have no problem with anything up to 32" and even some 37" ones, but I'm gigantic.

This is the #1 best way. Long arms are handy.

Edit for content:

This video is kinda cute as the kids are unaware, but also a bad example of how entitled some feel. :v:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk_vV-JRZ6E

Humphreys has a new favorite as of 07:44 on Apr 18, 2014

WITCHCRAFT
Aug 28, 2007

Berries That Burn

GWBBQ posted:

If your arms are long enough, the way to lift a CRT is to press the screen against your torso and hug it with your hands under the tapered part in the back. If not, you're going to have a miserable time lifting the TV. I have no problem with anything up to 32" and even some 37" ones, but I'm gigantic.

Yeah, the weight is so heavily skewed towards tha screen that the backside feels like it weighs nothing. If you can actually grip the TV with the screen pressing against our chest, then your legs can do a lot of the work instead of murdering your shoulders and back. The lack of handles or grips makes it pretty awful no matter what though.

thrakkorzog
Nov 16, 2007

GWBBQ posted:

If your arms are long enough, the way to lift a CRT is to press the screen against your torso and hug it with your hands under the tapered part in the back. If not, you're going to have a miserable time lifting the TV. I have no problem with anything up to 32" and even some 37" ones, but I'm gigantic.

Even using that method, CRTs were annoying to try to carry up and down stairs, since that required leaning back a bit. So I could never quite see where my feet were going. I always felt like I was about to trip forward and drop the TV down the stairs, or trip backwards and have it fall on top of me.

Humphreys posted:

This video is kinda cute as the kids are unaware, but also a bad example of how entitled some feel. :v:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk_vV-JRZ6E

I like that at least one of the kids acknowledges that a Walkman isn't much harder to use than an IPad.

thrakkorzog has a new favorite as of 09:28 on Apr 18, 2014

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

Humphreys posted:

This is the #1 best way. Long arms are handy.

Edit for content:

This video is kinda cute as the kids are unaware, but also a bad example of how entitled some feel. :v:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk_vV-JRZ6E

How did that 8 year old girl know what it was, and by its proper name too :psyduck:

Stuff like this doesn't make me feel old, it makes me feel glad that I live in a time and place where I don't have to deal with poo poo like Walkmans (Walkmen?) anymore.

thrakkorzog
Nov 16, 2007

BattleMaster posted:

How did that 8 year old girl know what it was, and by its proper name too :psyduck:

Stuff like this doesn't make me feel old, it makes me feel glad that I live in a time and place where I don't have to deal with poo poo like Walkmans (Walkmen?) anymore.

She might just have hipster parents. Growing up in the early 80s, my dad had a CD-player, a reel-to-reel tape recorder, and a record player. And he taught me how to use them all, even though that was really pointless in retrospect.

And a Walkman is just an object, not people, so the plural of Walkman is Walkmans.

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atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

thrakkorzog posted:

She might just have hipster parents. Growing up in the early 80s, my dad had a CD-player, a reel-to-reel tape recorder, and a record player. And he taught me how to use them all, even though that was really pointless in retrospect.

except in the early 80s each of those were still relevant

Croccers
Jun 15, 2012

Humphreys posted:

This video is kinda cute as the kids are unaware, but also a bad example of how entitled some feel. :v:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk_vV-JRZ6E
gently caress you, yes you need headphones to use it because I don't want to listen to your lovely music blasting out of a lovely tinny speaker at max volume. :colbert:
I can't wait until we have like, neuro-implanted headphone things so I never have to listen to IdiotMcTurds Cyber-Rapska music on the hover-bus.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Croccers posted:

gently caress you, yes you need headphones to use it because I don't want to listen to your lovely music blasting out of a lovely tinny speaker at max volume. :colbert:
I can't wait until we have like, neuro-implanted headphone things so I never have to listen to IdiotMcTurds Cyber-Rapska music on the hover-bus.

"drat cyber-kids, get off my robo-lawn! :bahgawd:"

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

Scout Finch Bitch
Up until the mid 2000's a lot of kids stuff STILL came on cassette tape, so it's not unlikely that her parents had and used them. I know when my friend worked at a childrens resale store they still sold and bought a ton of tapes because between the mid 80's and mid 90's there was just so much stuff made for kids in that format and parents today still want to get stuff like Lambchop and Wee Sing that they remember from their childhoods (a lot of which is/was only available in tape form). This goes double for religious parents where many if not most Christian bookstore type places still have extensive tape selections. Also if your kid is 8 and wants to walk around listening to music a tape player is like 5 dollars and some random Beatles tapes from goodwill are like fifty cents. It's not like your kid is going to care a lot about audio fidelity and you as a parent don't have to worry about them breaking a hundred dollar MP3 player when they fall off their scooter or run through a sprinkler.

Wayne Knight
May 11, 2006

El Estrago Bonito posted:

Also if your kid is 8 and wants to walk around listening to music a tape player is like 5 dollars and some random Beatles tapes from goodwill are like fifty cents. It's not like your kid is going to care a lot about audio fidelity and you as a parent don't have to worry about them breaking a hundred dollar MP3 player when they fall off their scooter or run through a sprinkler.

This is a great point. I'd like to do this once I have kids. It'll be something fun and cheap for them to collect.

GOTTA STAY FAI
Mar 24, 2005

~no glitter in the gutter~
~no twilight galaxy~
College Slice

KozmoNaut posted:

"drat cyber-kids, get off my robo-lawn! :bahgawd:"

Whatever, grandpa :rolleyes: How's that wireless T1 neural connection treating you these days, you fuckin' fossil?

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stealie72
Jan 10, 2007

Their eyes locked and suddenly there was the sound of breaking glass.
\

RZA Encryption posted:

This is a great point. I'd like to do this once I have kids. It'll be something fun and cheap for them to collect.

"Daddy, how come Dakota and Raine have ipods and I have this stupid old boring walkman thing?"

Good luck with that. Maybe if you are blessed with alternative-minded teenagers you can try it then.

edit: and before anyone chimes in with "I would never let my kid be that bratty and stuff-focused" that's not the point. Your kid will not give a gently caress about your old assed walkman any more than I gave about my parents LPs and 8 tracks full of 60s and 70s music in the 80s. You might be able to show one off to them for some nerdy/cool cred, but it's not going to become any sort of actual music player for them.

You might be able to get away with one of the lovely pre-ipod/smartphone mp3 players out there. At least you can put the latest lovely pop band's hits on that.

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