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FuzzySkinner posted:It's kind of confusing. We're in a bit of a goofy spot where we get both Fox Sports Detroit and FS-Ohio networks, but yeah I don't know for the sake of broadcasts exactly who 'claims' Toledo. I want to say it's Detroit though.
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DJExile posted:We're in a bit of a goofy spot where we get both Fox Sports Detroit and FS-Ohio networks, but yeah I don't know for the sake of broadcasts exactly who 'claims' Toledo. I want to say it's Detroit though. Officially, Toledo is its own broadcast market.  For the Lions and NFL games, Detroit is a primary market, with Lansing, Flint/Saginaw, Grand Rapids, Traverse City/Cadillac, and Alpena listed as Lions-friendly markets. (The western half of the U.P. is Packers country.) For the Tigers, all of Michigan is their territory, with Toledo as Indians territory.
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Cleveland seems like it's still kind of a mess. Common sense would have been after Fox Sports bought out Sports Time Ohio, that they would have just had moved the Cavs to STO, then have made that the Cleveland-oriented channel. From there the option to air the Cavs and Tribe should have remained in Colunbus via having that channel (and perhaps claiming that as a split town), and then to either have Cleveland get it's Hockey from Root Sports Pittsburgh, and/or the Cincy/Columbus-oriented FSNOhio. But it appears there's still three version of "Fox Sports" in Ohio. Which is really one too many. I kind of wonder if it's due to three baseball teams kind of being exclusive to their respective regions and causing the problem.
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Apr 20, 2014 23:18
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When I lived in Erie, we got Buffalo on the TV, the local stations and the papers covered the Cleveland teams, but everyone was a Pittsburgh fan. Basically everyone was on a different page, it was awful.
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Apr 21, 2014 04:17
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Sash! posted:When I lived in Erie, we got Buffalo on the TV, the local stations and the papers covered the Cleveland teams, but everyone was a Pittsburgh fan. Basically everyone was on a different page, it was awful. To be fair, "it was awful" is a good summary of Erie in general, so it was nice of them all to stay committed to that theme.
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Craig Sager's son stepped in for him and interviewed Popovich. It's pretty great. 
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FuzzySkinner posted:Cleveland seems like it's still kind of a mess. My understanding was that there's intention for STO to be the Cleveland Fox Sports channel but the current Cavs TV deal has to expire first. My former roommate interned at STO for a few years and says that's what he was told. Makes sense to me but who knows how true it is. In Columbus, we have a Fox Sports Alternate HD channel that only shows stuff when any two of the Reds, Jackets, Cavs are playing at the same time. On regular cable, they take the Time Warner preview channel and just air the other game on there so people can see it. We get loving hosed on the Pirates though. We're in the Pirates blackout area but nobody offers ROOT, so there's literally no legal way whatsoever to watch the Pittsburgh Pirates in Columbus unless they're on national television or playing Cincy/Cleveland. Even if you have ROOT through satellite, they black out Pirates games.
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sportsgenius86 posted:My understanding was that there's intention for STO to be the Cleveland Fox Sports channel but the current Cavs TV deal has to expire first. My former roommate interned at STO for a few years and says that's what he was told. Makes sense to me but who knows how true it is. This is what I've heard as well. They still can't officially call it "Fox Sports ____" (whether that'd be Cleveland-specific or Ohio, I don't know) until the cavs deal dies, which I think is next year.
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sportsgenius86 posted:We get loving hosed on the Pirates though. We're in the Pirates blackout area but nobody offers ROOT, so there's literally no legal way whatsoever to watch the Pittsburgh Pirates in Columbus unless they're on national television or playing Cincy/Cleveland. Even if you have ROOT through satellite, they black out Pirates games. New Orleans basketball was similar to this for a while. Cox Sports was the channel that the Hornets games were on, but only 37% of the city subscribed to providers that carried that channel. As a result, things like League Pass Broadband were blocked out. There was no way for viewers to get Hornets games and Sunday Ticket. I think Houston was/is in a similar situation but across more sports?
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Up here between Weirton/Steubenville and Wheeling we get all the Pittsburgh channels but while Root Sports and PCNC are in the actual cable listings, all the network stations are back in the 190s and 200s. Odd considering for years you could pick up Steubenville's WTOV-9 in Pittsburgh on channel 9. Huntington is really weird too. Maybe it was just the hotel we stayed at, but we got Root Sports but not Cincy or Columbus, which it's closer to.
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Keyshawn Johnnson got arrested for domestic violence:quote:Law enforcement officials told TMZ that things allegedly got physical, which ended in Johnson supposedly smashing the phone of his girlfriend, cutting her hand in the process. He could get canned over this. ESPN could easily find a recently retired player who's a bigger name to fill his shoes.
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commy gun posted:He could get canned over this. ESPN could easily find a recently retired player who's a bigger name to fill his shoes.
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Brett Favre can't take a studio job, he needs to keep working out in case someone needs the ol' gunslinger to ride again.
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MourningView posted:Brett Favre can't take a studio job, he needs to keep working out in case someone needs the ol' gunslinger to ride again.
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Tedd_Not_Ed posted:Up here between Weirton/Steubenville and Wheeling we get all the Pittsburgh channels but while Root Sports and PCNC are in the actual cable listings, all the network stations are back in the 190s and 200s. Odd considering for years you could pick up Steubenville's WTOV-9 in Pittsburgh on channel 9. I mean it's really an outdated concept at this point. I'm kind of shocked one cannot go À la carte, pick the teams they like, and then be guaranteed said Team's individual channels. Fox Sports Ohio/Sports Time Ohio/Root Pittsburgh are dinosaurs at this point. The same is very much true with DirecTV/Time Warner Cable. A far better option would be to have a series of individual channels for the 92 teams out there. These channels could be accessed anywhere from your cable plan, XBOX, Tablet, IPhone or PC. FuzzySkinner fucked around with this message at 23:07 on Apr 21, 2014 |
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Apr 21, 2014 23:01
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Tedd_Not_Ed posted:Up here between Weirton/Steubenville and Wheeling we get all the Pittsburgh channels but while Root Sports and PCNC are in the actual cable listings, all the network stations are back in the 190s and 200s. Odd considering for years you could pick up Steubenville's WTOV-9 in Pittsburgh on channel 9. My parents live in Parkersburg and they get Root but FSOhio. Although they have a channel that only airs the feed during Reds games for whatever reason.
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MourningView posted:Brett Favre can't take a studio job, he needs to keep working out in case someone needs the ol' gunslinger to ride again.
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Mornacale posted:To be fair, "it was awful" is a good summary of Erie in general, so it was nice of them all to stay committed to that theme. i drove through there once and there was a building called the Polish Sharpshooters Club so it cant be all bad.
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Apr 22, 2014 00:53
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erezaka posted:i drove through there once and there was a building called the Polish Sharpshooters Club so it cant be all bad. Aside from this business, which always seemed like it was asking for trouble: http://goo.gl/maps/ssA2o Erie was a pretty miserable place all around.
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Sash! posted:Aside from this business, which always seemed like it was asking for trouble: http://goo.gl/maps/ssA2o Erie was a pretty miserable place all around. This is like the store I would have opened when I was 8. Or now, honestly.
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MourningView posted:This is like the store I would have opened when I was 8. I'm sure there's a businessman aspiring to retire in Erie, PA that has the deal for you.
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FuzzySkinner posted:I mean it's really an outdated concept at this point. It's not shocking at all, the system you describe is simply less profitable to pro sports than the current one of exclusive territories and blackout regions.
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MourningView posted:This is like the store I would have opened when I was 8. To make it a bit stranger, it had two locations. But only one said "Karate Supplies" on the side. The second one has since been turned into a fireworks and jelly beans store (http://goo.gl/maps/nSvVm), which might be the single most unusual business anywhere.
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Sash! posted:To make it a bit stranger, it had two locations. But only one said "Karate Supplies" on the side. The second one has since been turned into a fireworks and jelly beans store (http://goo.gl/maps/nSvVm), which might be the single most unusual business anywhere.
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ElwoodCuse posted:It's not shocking at all, the system you describe is simply less profitable to pro sports than the current one of exclusive territories and blackout regions. I'm not certain that's true anymore. With the combination of fans all over and more ubiquitous internet, the ability to offer yourself to the most people at all times seems like the best way to go.
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Sash! posted:To make it a bit stranger, it had two locations. But only one said "Karate Supplies" on the side. The second one has since been turned into a fireworks and jelly beans store (http://goo.gl/maps/nSvVm), which might be the single most unusual business anywhere. Karate, Fireworks, AND Jellybeans? That dude is living the dream.
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Badfinger posted:I'm not certain that's true anymore. With the combination of fans all over and more ubiquitous internet, the ability to offer yourself to the most people at all times seems like the best way to go. It definitely is true. But you're not wrong. It's just that advertising hasn't caught up with the new technology yet. Ad time on the actual cable channels are still worth a hell of a lot more money than streaming (and mlb.tv barely even has commercials). Which is why I can't believe these channels are throwing so much money at these baseball teams when the contract is up.
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Tedd_Not_Ed posted:Up here between Weirton/Steubenville and Wheeling we get all the Pittsburgh channels but while Root Sports and PCNC are in the actual cable listings, all the network stations are back in the 190s and 200s. Odd considering for years you could pick up Steubenville's WTOV-9 in Pittsburgh on channel 9. 
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Sash! posted:To make it a bit stranger, it had two locations. But only one said "Karate Supplies" on the side. The second one has since been turned into a fireworks and jelly beans store (http://goo.gl/maps/nSvVm), which might be the single most unusual business anywhere. BEST WINGS USA QUAKER STATE & LUBE
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Peanut President posted:BEST WINGS USA That's Quaker Steak, you uncultured heathen.
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Mahoning posted:It definitely is true. But you're not wrong. It's just that advertising hasn't caught up with the new technology yet. Ad time on the actual cable channels are still worth a hell of a lot more money than streaming (and mlb.tv barely even has commercials). Cable channels could stream their feed and you'd get all the commercially goodness right there on your not-television. Just because they do not doesn't mean they shouldn't or can't.
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Tedd_Not_Ed posted:That's Quaker Steak, you uncultured heathen. Hahah oh wow. I really thought that was a Quaker State place.
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Peanut President posted:Hahah oh wow. I really thought that was a Quaker State place. It's a chain. Their first restaurant was an old closed Quaker State Station that became available when QS started closing in the Gas Crisis in the 70s.
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That's amazing.
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Badfinger posted:Cable channels could stream their feed and you'd get all the commercially goodness right there on your not-television. Just because they do not doesn't mean they shouldn't or can't. I agree, I don't know why they don't do this in the first place for mlb.tv. I'd love to see Cincinnati commercials again. Skyline and Goldstar Chili especially. Tedd_Not_Ed posted:It's a chain. Their first restaurant was an old closed Quaker State Station that became available when QS started closing in the Gas Crisis in the 70s. Gee, you think they'd use some sort of gas station-type decor if that were the case.... Seriously I hate walking into any Quaker Steak but I just can't help it....
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In actual sports broadcasting news:quote:@MLBNetworkPR 4h
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Peanut President posted:That's amazing. Their wings are really tasty, as is their sauce. I used to go to the one in Cranberry/Butler all the time, and then we finally got one in our hometown. Bonus? There's a poo poo ton of NASCAR memorabilia at every one I've been to. (Sharon, Cranberry/Butler, and North Canton).
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Mahoning posted:I agree, I don't know why they don't do this in the first place for mlb.tv. I'd love to see Cincinnati commercials again. Skyline and Goldstar Chili especially. I'm sure they would if those places and products paid them money to
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