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Seconding "By By Baby...". Lots of great stories and excellent pictures.
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holocaust bloopers posted:I'm on a F-14 Tomcat kick. Is there any good book documenting the aircraft that I oughta read? Traitor 
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Apr 21, 2014 20:45
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Traitor F-15E's are really loving cool.
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Apr 21, 2014 20:55
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holocaust bloopers posted:F-15's are really loving cool. Was that so hard?  Also if you type F-15 Kadena into Google Image Search I'm in the second picture 
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Apr 21, 2014 21:05
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I spent this weekend in my girlfriends parents home in Šiauliai. Her house is not more than 2 kilometers from SQQ (Zokniai airbase as we call it) where currently 10 F15C's are based for baltic air policing, I never quite thought that F15's doing maneuvers sound just like someone was shifting furniture around in the floor above you. She took me to this observation spot on a hill overlooking the area and just as we were walking into the open field we saw 4 F15C's circling in for final approach, turns out that hill happens to align perfectly with the runway of the airbase, next time I'm taking a camera because those things where god damned stones throw away from us. Awesome planes really. Here's the spot I am talking about.
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Apr 21, 2014 22:37
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Somebody say F-15s are awesome? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ri-obaBZr9I \/ There's plenty of Mud Hens in that video \/ iyaayas01 fucked around with this message at 23:06 on Apr 21, 2014 |
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Apr 21, 2014 22:54
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You guys are posting the wrong Eagle.
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Apr 21, 2014 23:01
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iyaayas01 posted:Two of them are coffee table books, but I've heard good things about these three. Thanks! Bought the Bye Bye Baby one.
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Apr 21, 2014 23:03
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holocaust bloopers posted:You guys are posting the wrong Eagle. All Eagles own equally hard. Except -B's and -D's naturally.
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Apr 21, 2014 23:34
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Also if you type F-15 Kadena into Google Image Search I'm in the second picture "USAF F-15 crashes in Pacific"... 
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Apr 21, 2014 23:34
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:All Eagles own equally hard. So in combat what does the backseat guy do in the B/D? Same question for the F-16B/D I suppose.
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Apr 22, 2014 01:58
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hobbesmaster posted:So in combat what does the backseat guy do in the B/D? Same question for the F-16B/D I suppose. Is an incentive flight or training or being ferried somewhere. Most of the time the seat is empty. Oh some of those neat aerial shots are taken by a back-seater. In a real shooting war they'll be next to worthless as they don't have all the weird classified boxes that single-seaters have.
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Apr 22, 2014 02:03
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Is an incentive flight or training or being ferried somewhere. Most of the time the seat is empty. That makes sense, I saw that the F-16B/D and the F-15B/D were both used in desert storm and was really confused.
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Apr 22, 2014 02:10
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hobbesmaster posted:That makes sense, I saw that the F-16B/D and the F-15B/D were both used in desert storm and was really confused. Were they extra sets of eyes for Scud-hunting?
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Apr 22, 2014 02:15
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What a coincidence! I linked this yesterday, and what do they have today? 6 shockingly childish abuses of power by airport employees
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Apr 22, 2014 14:41
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Please use property terminology when referring to Marine aviation: I can't wait for Chinese marines to operate aircraft. People's Liberation Army Navy's army's air force.
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Apr 22, 2014 16:59
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So we in Australia have ordered 58 more F-35A's and our negotiators got an absolute bargain at only US$200M* each! Wait, not bargain, the other thing. I'm showing my age because I remember when F-35's were supposed to be cheap, single engine light weight fighters. Bend over a chair, open your legs and breath deep, LockMart is coming (pun intended) *scheduled lifetime cost with maintenance, so it's assuming they never get written off or get any upgrades ever or have training accidents or get kept in service for a few more years than planned. But none of that ever happens anyway, right? Captain Postal fucked around with this message at 08:17 on Apr 23, 2014 |
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Apr 23, 2014 08:09
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Having never seen them, I didn't realise just how close they got to each other https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eyk-XHuOyBM
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Captain Postal posted:*scheduled lifetime cost with maintenance, so it's assuming they never get written off or get any upgrades ever or have training accidents or get kept in service for a few more years than planned. But none of that ever happens anyway, right? Pfft, just yell at the pilots "Never have accidents!" Job done.
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Apr 23, 2014 19:51
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I did a really fun thing today! My friend said he wanted to be free for a bit around lunch, I asked why, he said he was going up the tower with one of the ops managers (manager's neighbor works up there). I was immediately on the phone and asked "can I come??" Yup, I sure could! So I abandoned... err... delegated my responsibilities and off we went! It was loving cool, and what a view! That's got to be the best office views in the world, I had no idea... pretty envious of you ATC guys! I took a bunch of phone photos from the viewing gallery, here they are shrunk down and colour corrected because the window coating did weird things to the white balance. Looking West at T5  South West towards the various reservoirs around Heathrow  Toy airplanes!   Some Virgins, a little plane on the runway, BA cargo  T3 cul-de-sac and T4 in the distance  Two fat Aussies  Toy 777  Toy 777 and 767  T3, T1, T2, London skyline in the distance  Big, Bigger 
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Apr 23, 2014 21:02
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Bye, Bye, Baby...! came in today. It's loving amazing. So much Tomcat porn. There's a great story in there how a group of 4 line Tomcat pilots shot up 4 F-15s over the Florida panhandle with Sparrows then Sidewinders and with the Phoenix "somewhere over Disney World." bloops fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Apr 23, 2014 |
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Apr 23, 2014 21:55
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Something I've always wondered- how do they get the fuel to the airport. If they tankered it in, there would be an endless line of tankers coming down the airport road. The most obvious answer would be pipeline but that seems like it would be a royal pain to have built and there would have been some spills in the news at some point.
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Apr 23, 2014 22:29
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Depends on the airport in question, but here it's either a pipeline straight from the refinery, or alternatively tanker barges.
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Apr 23, 2014 22:32
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holocaust bloopers posted:There's a great story in there how a group of 4 line Tomcat pilots shot up 4 F-15s over the Florida panhandle with Sparrows then Sidewinders and with the Phoenix "somewhere over Disney World." Reminds me of the story I read a little while back (I think in Air & Space) about some ANG air defense guys in F-106s in the South (FL panhandle IIRC) that would regularly mix it up with F-15s and F-16s in the early '80s. The newer jets would generally regularly spank them, particularly if things got to the merge, until one day when the F-106 guys decided to have a little fun and called a Genie shot as soon as they made the fight's on call. Surprisingly enough a four-ship of Eagles doesn't take kindly to you telling them they're all dead a couple minutes after you fired one weapon.
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holocaust bloopers posted:Bye, Bye, Baby...! came in today. It's loving amazing. So much Tomcat porn. Man I used to love the Phoenix as a kid because on paper it's the king poo poo of interceptor missiles, but the more I think and read about it, the more I realize that given the chance in a shooting war, it probably would have been a pretty mediocre missile at best. As a kid though, 'lock onto six targets from 120nm away, fire, done  'e: ^^^ yeah, I think I read that one too
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Apr 23, 2014 22:55
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Airports in major cities, at least in Europe, also usually have train lines. In Oslo at OSL at least they run tanker trains from the fuel terminal in Oslo harbour directly to the airport.
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iyaayas01 posted:Reminds me of the story I read a little while back (I think in Air & Space) about some ANG air defense guys in F-106s in the South (FL panhandle IIRC) that would regularly mix it up with F-15s and F-16s in the early '80s. The newer jets would generally regularly spank them, particularly if things got to the merge, until one day when the F-106 guys decided to have a little fun and called a Genie shot as soon as they made the fight's on call. Ya I've heard that one. It's a great story. movax posted:Man I used to love the Phoenix as a kid because on paper it's the king poo poo of interceptor missiles, but the more I think and read about it, the more I realize that given the chance in a shooting war, it probably would have been a pretty mediocre missile at best. The F-14 guys loved the hell out of the Pheonix. One described it as a pit bull.
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Apr 23, 2014 22:59
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iyaayas01 posted:Reminds me of the story I read a little while back (I think in Air & Space) about some ANG air defense guys in F-106s in the South (FL panhandle IIRC) that would regularly mix it up with F-15s and F-16s in the early '80s. The newer jets would generally regularly spank them, particularly if things got to the merge, until one day when the F-106 guys decided to have a little fun and called a Genie shot as soon as they made the fight's on call. According to my old man (retired plans and scheduling guy) when the -15's and -16's were first being introduced they would repeatedly get whooped on by the century series aircraft and Phantoms in mock battles. He said the newer jet pilots whining about unfair tactics and cheating. Eventually the pilots got better acquainted with the Falcons and Eagles and the tables were turned but it was pretty hilarious for awhile he said. Reminds me of an apocryphal story I was told about a colonel in an F-15 sneaking up on a 4-ship of F-22's while they fixated on the other F-15's and mock shooting them down with the 20mm.
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:According to my old man (retired plans and scheduling guy) when the -15's and -16's were first being introduced they would repeatedly get whooped on by the century series aircraft and Phantoms in mock battles. He said the newer jet pilots whining about unfair tactics and cheating. Eventually the pilots got better acquainted with the Falcons and Eagles and the tables were turned but it was pretty hilarious for awhile he said. There's gun cam footage of an F-16 getting an F-22 somewhere.
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iyaayas01 posted:Reminds me of the story I read a little while back (I think in Air & Space) about some ANG air defense guys in F-106s in the South (FL panhandle IIRC) that would regularly mix it up with F-15s and F-16s in the early '80s. The newer jets would generally regularly spank them, particularly if things got to the merge, until one day when the F-106 guys decided to have a little fun and called a Genie shot as soon as they made the fight's on call. the story I read was F-106s vs F-16, but I wouldn't be at all surprised to see a 106 driver do the exact same drat thing to an F-15. it was basically F-16 drivers are smug about having to beat up on some "old busted-rear end poo poo" so they were like 'let's do this with full loadout/capabilities.' Exercise starts and they eat a Genie right off the bat. Much wailing ensues. e: http://www.f-106deltadart.com/databases/thereiwas/mfhandler.php?file=ADC%20DARTS%20vs%20TAC%20VIPERS.pdf here we go: quote:I was a Captain stationed at Tyndall AFB as an F-106 Instructor. This day my wingman, a fellow Captain and Psion fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Apr 23, 2014 |
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Psion posted:the story I read was F-106s vs F-16, but I wouldn't be at all surprised to see a 106 driver do the exact same drat thing to an F-15. Yeah my experience with military fighter pilots is that if they're O-3 or below they are gigantic entitled man children. Had a Captain Code 3 my jet because "the A/C wasn't cold enough". Helped E&E run a 5 hour diagnostics to find nothing was wrong with it. That was a fun 12 hour shift 
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holocaust bloopers posted:Ya I've heard that one. It's a great story. Well, they'd be saying pitbull almost right after fox 3 right?
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My other favorite AF story is when, at some interservice meeting thing, an Air Force Major who didn't understand naval ranks (but I repeat myself), gave a USN Captain a lot of poo poo about being in the service for so long and not getting promoted above Captain. Lots of poo poo, wouldn't stop talking. Eventually some frantic other AF guy got through to this idiot and quietly let him know what he'd just done. Said AF guy paled considerably and shut up for the rest of the day. in conclusion, AF people being idiots is a prime source of comedy for this nation and they should be saluted for this. Then laughed at. 
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kmcormick9 posted:Something I've always wondered- how do they get the fuel to the airport. If they tankered it in, there would be an endless line of tankers coming down the airport road. Stockholm Arlanda used to have an endless line of fuel trucks driving basically this route through the city and up to Arlanda. There's a fair amount of traffic on Vallhallavägen and it's more or less a miracle no bad accidents happened. Since 2006 though they ship to a different harbor that has a rail link to a fuel depot near the airport and take it through a pipeline the rest of the way.
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Psion posted:My other favorite AF story is when, at some interservice meeting thing, an Air Force Major who didn't understand naval ranks (but I repeat myself), gave a USN Captain a lot of poo poo about being in the service for so long and not getting promoted above Captain. Lots of poo poo, wouldn't stop talking. To be fair Navy ranks are loving confusing.
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hobbesmaster posted:Well, they'd be saying pitbull almost right after fox 3 right? No, unless they were at a range so stupidly close that they should be using other missiles. Maybe mad dog, I don't know if that was an option with that missile. It would basically waste $1M either way. Godholio fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Apr 24, 2014 |
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My grandfather was a flight surgeon for SAC in the 50s, and he managed to turn the O-6 pay grade confusion around by going to the navy o-club instead of the AF one. He also enjoyed smuggling tax-free booze in from Canada via his medical bag.
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holocaust bloopers posted:The F-14 guys loved the hell out of the Pheonix. One described it as a pit bull.   Didn't the Phoenix have a really lovely record for rocket motor reliability or am I misremembering something?
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Snowdens Secret posted:
I think like most solid rocket boosters, as the missile fleet aged, they were finding more and more cracks in the fuel upon inspection. Failure rate of the missiles would have probably been really high if a shooting war broke out in the 90s.
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Really really cool. In the book, one pilot said he live fired 6 for 6. Don't know what period of time it was though.
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