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Xenomrph posted:Edit-- if I like Cronenberg but have never seen Videodrome, is it worth checking out? The Criterion release caught my eye, but I'm hesitant to spend that much on a movie sight-unseen. Egbert Souse posted:[Wells] had a grudge against Criterion because he didn't get a job with them 20 years ago.
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Robert Denby posted:Imagine someone doing a straight adaptation of a Philip K Dick story.
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Robert Denby posted:Imagine someone doing a straight adaptation of a Philip K Dick story. What could be a very shaky premise on screen is done perfectly. That movie is actually Linklater's A Scanner Darkly and it's remarkable.
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Kull the Conqueror posted:That movie is actually Linklater's A Scanner Darkly and it's remarkable. I really liked that movie. A lot. Linklater is awesome.
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Xenomrph posted:Edit-- if I like Cronenberg but have never seen Videodrome, is it worth checking out? The Criterion release caught my eye, but I'm hesitant to spend that much on a movie sight-unseen. Yes, buy it.
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Done! I'll post a trip report after it shows up.
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Finally got a blu-ray player of my own, 2 years after I moved out of my parents' house and took my Criterions with me. I immediately turned around and bought Quadrophenia, which I've had my eye on since it was announced. Can't wait to check it out, haven't seen the movie in ~10 years.
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Sorry for dredging up a discussion from a few pages ago about Criterion adding the DVD copies in with the bluray releases. I still see it as redundant. Aren't Criterion's clientele already the the type of people who would already own a bluray player? It just seems weird to me that anyone who's willing to pay the premium for a Criterion film wouldn't have or doesn't plan on getting a bluray player by now.
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Detective No. 27 posted:Sorry for dredging up a discussion from a few pages ago about Criterion adding the DVD copies in with the bluray releases. I still see it as redundant. Aren't Criterion's clientele already the the type of people who would already own a bluray player? It just seems weird to me that anyone who's willing to pay the premium for a Criterion film wouldn't have or doesn't plan on getting a bluray player by now. Some might appreciate the redundancy or indeed plan to get a bluray someday but want to see Breathless right now. You could call it another sort of completionism as well. Also a great way to reduce warehouse volume in the messy period where we're still all trying to figure out if bluray will supplant dvd or if they'll live side-by-side until the death of physical media in 7-12 years.
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Can you even buy a pure DVD player new these days? Blu-ray players have fallen to $50 or so on the low end, and are at a point where even the low end players work well.
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mod sassinator posted:Can you even buy a pure DVD player new these days? Blu-ray players have fallen to $50 or so on the low end, and are at a point where even the low end players work well. Yeah, anybody who doesn't have a blu-ray player seems more likely to just download or stream a film instead.
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DVDs are still selling, so it would be foolish from a business perspective for Criterion to stop producing them. They've simply realized that the cheaper way to release them is to bundle them with the Blu-Ray. Criterion saves some money while still providing all the products they need to, and we get an extra disc. Seems just fine to me.
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mod sassinator posted:Can you even buy a pure DVD player new these days? Blu-ray players have fallen to $50 or so on the low end, and are at a point where even the low end players work well. Right but for a LOT of people, there's no reason to spend $50 when your ancient DVD player still plays your movies just fine. Especially if you don't already have HD. I know a lot of people who love movies and TV but for a number of reasons don't have an HDTV and/or Blu-ray player.
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It's also a bit of a boon for libraries and library-goers.
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Okay, cool, can you all raise money to buy me an HDTV in this thread? If not, I guess one of you will have to start a thread in SA-Mart.
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Mercaptopropyl posted:Right but for a LOT of people, there's no reason to spend $50 when your ancient DVD player still plays your movies just fine. Especially if you don't already have HD. I'm still rocking a tube TV, mainly because it's still going strong, and also because in the past I always knew that better models were just down the road so kept putting off an upgrade. Now I'm at the point where I know I'll be moving in the next year or so, so am waiting to upgrade my TV until I move so I'll buy a size that will fit whatever my living room ends up looking like. I'm happy for Criterion giving me both discs, as for all other movies I've been buying the dual format packages as well whenever there is an option. The DVD to watch now, the Blu to watch when I update.
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I wasn't trying to be condescending or anything, so I hope no one got the wrong impression. I actually found the DVD included in my bluray copy of The Hidden Fortress when my friend's older HDTV didn't have an HDMI port the other day.
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I'm willing to part with a few OOP Criterions if anyone is interested: Trafic (Jacques Tati) - DVD Playtime - Blu-Ray Last Year at Marienbad - Blu-Ray (original embossed digipack) All are used, but great condition with the booklets. PM or email me if you're interested.
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Egbert Souse posted:Last Year at Marienbad - Blu-Ray (original embossed digipack) Oh man, I'd be interested in this but I know I can't afford a fair price for it right now. 
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Mercaptopropyl posted:Right but for a LOT of people, there's no reason to spend $50 when your ancient DVD player still plays your movies just fine. Especially if you don't already have HD. It's 2014, what sort of person buy 40 dollar DVDs but doesn't own an HDTV?
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Enough that Criterion would have an interest in providing both formats for consumers.
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I'm sure Criterion has a reasonable percentage of older fans who have an interest in old films but not new technology.
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I've never seen the 1972 Solaris but the blu-ray.com review for the Criterion set makes it awfully tempting. What's the consensus on it? Also, Videodrome came in the mail today. I'll likely give it a whirl tomorrow after work.
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Xenomrph posted:I've never seen the 1972 Solaris but the blu-ray.com review for the Criterion set makes it awfully tempting. What's the consensus on it? Having never seen it, I blind bought it and watched it a couple weeks ago. Was too dumbstruck to even try to rate or review it so I put it back on the "To Watch" stack. Like any Tarkovsky film it's spellbinding to say the least. In Solaris he reminds me a lot of Bergman, so take that as you will. Also, Videodrome is awesome! It was on TV tonight but I had to watch hockey highlights.
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Makes sense to me that after finally upgrading Insomnia they also upgrade Sporloos. Also I selfishly want this which is why it makes sense to me.
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boom boom boom posted:It's 2014, what sort of person buy 40 dollar DVDs but doesn't own an HDTV? Who the hell buys Criterion DVDs when they're not 50% off?
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Point still stands, $20 for a DVD is highway robbery.
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mod sassinator posted:Point still stands, $20 for a DVD is highway robbery. Even when it's loaded with special features and is something that you're not likely to find through other distributors? I have quite a few DVDs from Criterion that aren't on Blu (Man Bites Dog, My Dinner With Andre, Mala Noche, Secret Honor, etc.) that I feel were well worth the price, especially with upgrades on the distant horizon. You're probably talking about the ones with Blu readily available but if I didn't have a player, they're still a really fair value with the restoration and extras.
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The amount of work Criterion puts into their releases absolutely justifies the price they charge. Stop being a cheap bastard. DVDs and Blu-Rays each physically cost pennies.
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mod sassinator posted:Point still stands, $20 for a DVD is highway robbery. $20 is about right for anything with a decent amount of supplements and a proper transfer. Certainly anything from Criterion. It would be a rip off with a lousy transfer and no extras. No one seems to remember when early DVDs with absolutely no extras and middling transfers were close to $40 retail.
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mod sassinator posted:Point still stands, $20 for a DVD is highway robbery. That's a really good price considering the amount of work and material that goes into these things.
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mod sassinator posted:Point still stands, $20 for a DVD is highway robbery. Yeah man, let me just buy a digital copy for $15 instead.
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If you're paying $20 for a nice DVD, isn't it a little crazy not to buy a $50-60 blu-ray player though? Even if you don't have an HDTV yet the blu-ray is going to have less compression, better scaling, audio, etc.
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Egbert Souse posted:$20 is about right for anything with a decent amount of supplements and a proper transfer. Certainly anything from Criterion. It would be a rip off with a lousy transfer and no extras. - widescreen format - surround sound And if you're lucky: - interactive menus
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Xenomrph posted:I still get a chuckle when I look at my older DVDs and the "special features" are:
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Criterion does have perks that I feel are worth any extra costs. I don't mind paying $20 even for a release with modest supplements because they don't make film watching an aggravating experience. When you put a Criterion Blu into a player, it goes straight to the menu. You press play and it starts the film. Even mainstream releases that go for the same price, if not more, require you to sit through trailers, FBI warnings, and other crap. Not only that, you have mainstream films packaged in cheap, ugly cases with nothing about the film. Criterion will at the minimum include a leaflet with a short essay and technical notes. There's also the caliber of the films and the fact that Criterion is a smaller, more intimate operation. It's a company that focuses on making great films available to the public. They don't have a conglomerate to answer to. They don't sit on films because they can't sell 50,000 copies or claim there's no budget available.
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