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Internet Webguy posted:Well he was under a lot of pressure to find something else to talk about after dropping his Bundy coverage and never bringing it up again. Yea I imagine this happened when he saw the news and made a panicked phonecall to cancel Bundy's what third appearance on his show and rooted around for a new idea in his wastebin.
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He was probably saving "Reefer Madness 2014" for the summer since he just got done with his multi-part piece of hard hitting journalism "Wild Spring Breakers Exposed" a couple of weeks ago.
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Lester Shy posted:He was probably saving "Reefer Madness 2014" for the summer since he just got done with his multi-part piece of hard hitting journalism "Wild Spring Breakers Exposed" a couple of weeks ago. Yes, that was awesome. "Did you know that college kids do these things called BEER BONGS???"
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Lester Shy posted:He was probably saving "Reefer Madness 2014" for the summer since he just got done with his multi-part piece of hard hitting journalism "Wild Spring Breakers Exposed" a couple of weeks ago. You're loving kidding right? This can't be real.
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Apr 26, 2014 09:59
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Install Windows posted:This helps to break out what parts of federal lands are owned by which federal agencies: And in relation to Bundy and private us of public lands; A lot of that land that is now USFS and BLM was at one time either privately owned, or up for sale in one way or another, long before those government agencies existed. Either a free for all early on, or later under organized homesteading and massive sales to railroads and other industries. I can only speak for Oregon, but if you grab a map and start heading out into some of these now government owned lands, you'll find roads named after logging companies, ranches, and even towns that no longer exist. Some of this land is so marginal that it makes no financial sense to own it outright. Some of it was bought just to harvest the trees. And once they were harvested or a fire consumed them all, the companies filed for bankruptcy and vanished, leaving the government to seize it for back taxes. I can see why this issue of massive public land holdings doesn't really rile up many people out west, as noted in Jagchosis' Slate link a couple pages back. I live about an hour away from BLM land, and it is BLM land because no one in there right mind would pay good money to own the side of some mountain in perpetuity. I'm happy to pay a fee to hunt on it once a year, and the logging companies are happy to lease it for just long enough to clear cut it. Local history is full of cautionary tales about how sales of this land often result in swindles and boondoggles.
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Jesus, the fallout for Fox News over Cliven Bundy is hilarious. They're shutting down all mention of Bundy, yeah, but the damage has been done. Turns out a lot of regular viewers weren't too happy with them promoting anti-patriotic white supremacist extremists and a compulsive lying tax cheat. The sooner Fox News kills its own ratings the better. Spacedad fucked around with this message at 11:23 on Apr 26, 2014 |
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Apr 26, 2014 11:20
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Rexicon1 posted:You're loving kidding right? This can't be real. Hannity Uncovers Wild Behavior on Spring Break in Florida quote:All this week, Sean Hannity will bring you a special look at Spring Break, as college students from all over the country flock to Florida, Mexico and other beach destinations to engage in wild behavior. I'm like 99% sure this was just an excuse to show a bunch of 65+ year old men who are too old to use a computer and go to bed too early to watch Girls Gone Wild infomercials some shots of women in bikinis.
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Apr 26, 2014 17:34
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Also on the topic of lands, here's a map of every census area that had a population of 0 in the 2010 census: It covers about 47% of the land area of the US. If you're interested, "urban areas" cover about 3% of the country's land area (while holding 80% of the population, and including suburbs). So the remaining 50% after that contain the rural 20%.
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Spacedad posted:Jesus, the fallout for Fox News over Cliven Bundy is hilarious. They're shutting down all mention of Bundy, yeah, but the damage has been done. Turns out a lot of regular viewers weren't too happy with them promoting anti-patriotic white supremacist extremists and a compulsive lying tax cheat. Where are you seeing a genuine backlash on this from Fox viewers? Got any links?
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This article is really great. Emphasis mine. http://www.the-spearhead.com/2014/04/25/cliven-bundy-lost-in-translation/ quote:What I find highly ironic about the recent condemnation of Cliven Bundy is that he is being pilloried for speaking more like black Americans than urban whites. Even his name would sound black if you made a slight change from “Cliven” to “Clayvon.”
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Apr 26, 2014 18:12
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"Bundy's justified in using the land that doesn't belong to him because he's turning a profit." That's pretty much the exact justification we used to drive Indians off their land. But who cares! The Flesh is weak! The Dollar is strong! GREED FOR THE GREED THRONE! 
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Apr 26, 2014 18:20
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"I cannot understand why "slavery" is such a loaded term in American discourse!" 
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Apr 26, 2014 18:22
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That statement is also incongruous with reality as the BLM would in general happily charge him grazing fees except that Bundy decided he didn't need to pay them, because freedom. This is of course simplifying details of the case, such as the area around Bundy's land being closed off to grazing.
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Apr 26, 2014 18:23
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Popular Thug Drink posted:That statement is also incongruous with reality as the BLM would happily charge him grazing fees except that Bundy decided he didn't need to pay them, because freedom. Not to mention he didn't pay them for over ten years, which is a longer period of time than most people would put up with someone illegally grazing on their land.
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Apr 26, 2014 18:25
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So what do his unpaid fees total to, anyway? Some sources have him in millions and others thousands. I'm leaning towards the higher end, since it's a pretty safe assessment that there are always associated penalty fees and fines for non payment. ...Plus whatever that militia stunt costs him.
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Apr 26, 2014 18:30
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Popular Thug Drink posted:This article is really great. Emphasis mine. Oh, I see. So this is a linguistics issue! Those East Coast academics in their ivory towers hate the man cuz he dern't talk good 'nough fer 'em! Otherwise what he said is 100% not racist!
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Apr 26, 2014 18:42
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If only he were black, then his overt anti-black racism wouldn't be a problem! 
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Blarghalt posted:Not to mention he didn't pay them for over ten years, which is a longer period of time than most people would put up with someone illegally grazing on their land. "You wouldn't steal a car..." Surprised no one's tried to make a parody of that yet; but then I imagine tech nerds don't have much time for racist  people.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCAvkbVz57g I went for the last clip. Not sure I can watch the whole show. So much stupidity.
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Apr 26, 2014 20:10
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I don't think they will ever figure out that saying that anyone, ever was better off as a slave is the problem. I guess it's the whole "well I didn't say friend of the family" concept of racism.
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lil mortimer posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCAvkbVz57g I just wish that this would have been the audience when they were discussing it being a "Gateway Drug" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUPHlAbAf2I] "Marijuana is not an addiction. I USED TO SUCK DICK FOR COKE!"
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lil mortimer posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCAvkbVz57g It would be really awesome if people would learn that the meaning of "slippery slope" is making a connection between two scenarios without sufficient evidence and that saying things like "legalizing marijuana is a slippery slope to legalizing other drugs" is functionally identical to saying "legalizing marijuana wouldn't inherently lead to legalizing other drugs" and trying to make it as an actual argument makes you sound like a colossal moron coopting academic terminology you don't understand.
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moths posted:So what do his unpaid fees total to, anyway? Some sources have him in millions and others thousands.
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Well certainly now he's committed a multitude of criminal offenses. If only the sheriff would come arrest him, being, as he is, the highest legal authority in the dat gum country.
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http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/unedited-tape-bundy-emerges-sheds-light-racist-remarks Guys, it's ok. We just took his comments out of context. quote:We've progressed quite a bit from that day until now, and we sure don't want to go back. We sure don't want the colored people to go back to that point. We sure don't want these Mexican people to go back to that point. And we can make a difference right now by taking care of some of these bureaucracies, and do it in a peaceful way.
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Sir Tonk posted:http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/unedited-tape-bundy-emerges-sheds-light-racist-remarks Why is it that any publication with the word 'truth' in its title is always a lovely rag?
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lil mortimer posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCAvkbVz57g This is literally the biggest collection of morons I have ever seen. When that lady says compare Miley Cyrus from her Disney years to now and look how drugs affected her I laughed out loud. All I can think was you mean she found a way to make a poo poo load of money trolling people like you? It's so bizarre to see how pervasive anti weed propaganda is. That lady saying well drinking is ok but not weed, yet she didn't seem to have any reasons why.
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You know, I think a black person that came out and said literally "I think black people would be better off under slavery" would be laughed out of the room just as quickly as a white person who said that. Unrelated question - what's with the BLM-owned land going all the way up the California coastline?
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The Rokstar posted:You know, I think a black person that came out and said literally "I think black people would be better off under slavery" would be laughed out of the room just as quickly as a white person who said that. I don't know if it really includes the ocean but my understanding is that all beaches, at least on the west coast, are open to the public. You might have difficulty getting access in some places though.
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The Rokstar posted:You know, I think a black person that came out and said literally "I think black people would be better off under slavery" would be laughed out of the room just as quickly as a white person who said that. The entire coast of California is a national monument.
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Blarghalt posted:Why is it that any publication with the word 'truth' in its title is always a lovely rag?
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:I don't know if it really includes the ocean but my understanding is that all beaches, at least on the west coast, are open to the public. You might have difficulty getting access in some places though. On that map linked earlier, it looks like that strip of BLM land is actually the ocean, and not the beach. Probably just means that the BLM manages fishing or oil drilling.
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Install Windows posted:Also on the topic of lands, here's a map of every census area that had a population of 0 in the 2010 census: Wow - Fort Hood really stands out there. So do Bragg and Benning.
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Beowulfs_Ghost posted:On that map linked earlier, it looks like that strip of BLM land is actually the ocean, and not the beach. Probably just means that the BLM manages fishing or oil drilling. They manage any outcroppings from low tide line to 12 miles out, which ends up including 607 acres of actual land along the entire 840 mile coast.
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I knew Alaska was huge and uninhabited, but jeez, that's a whole lot of land with literally no one living in it.
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Blarghalt posted:Not to mention he didn't pay them for over ten years, which is a longer period of time than most people would put up with someone illegally grazing on their land. Darn near twenty.
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Blarghalt posted:Not to mention he didn't pay them for over ten years, which is a longer period of time than most people would put up with someone illegally grazing on their land. Not to mention the government's grazing fees are less than 1/10th of what private landowners charge. Private owners charge about $15 per cow, the gov't rate is something like a dollar per cow, just laughably cheap.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:I don't know if it really includes the ocean but my understanding is that all beaches, at least on the west coast, are open to the public. You might have difficulty getting access in some places though. Um yeah, the William Randolph Hearst Corp agrees enthusiastically about the access issue. They own a huge coastal ranch in central CA. There's some made-up bullshit called the California Coastal Trail, and to thru-hike it, you have to risk getting your rear end kicked by the ranch hands on this loving place. Which the trail guide points out, and recommends you hide your tent rather well.
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