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Ohranger isn't garbage, it's just called that because it made Sentai's ratings and popularity in the red, but that's not a mark on it. Many people have said the same thing about Go Busters and it's very popular with the fanbase, vocal minority aside.
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Fair enough, though I've also heard it has a really inconsistent tone. Apparently they were going to have the villains be terrorists, but had to change things up after the Sarin gas incident. Have you seen it all the way through? What were your thoughts, worth taking a look?
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May 3, 2014 23:34
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Your Sledgehammer posted:Yeah, just got done watching him punch his way out of a Gouma monster while screaming "Kujaku!" and crying. I like Daigo and I even like the Kujaku subplot, but man has that thing gotten pretty overblown and intense quickly Very little has been subbed, as far as I can see, that isn't likely to be changed any time soon. If you must go for a mid-90s halfway subbed show there's always Carranger. What is available is quite good.
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May 4, 2014 01:13
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It's kinda hilarious how Ohranger is a black sheep for Sentai while Zeo is probably the most solidly made Saban season and is often regarded as one of the best seasons of Power Rangers and Carranger is considered a classic season in Japan while Turbo is probably the worst pre-New Saban season of Power Rangers
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May 4, 2014 12:32
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Turbo was pretty good once they replaced the entire cast.
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May 4, 2014 16:17
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Turbo's main problems are shrill, incompetant (and not in a good way like Lothor's faction) villains, the cast screwup not making any sense, and with zero build up, replaicng Zordon around the same time with even less of a buildup and replacing him with Poochy and The Question, and having a weird inconsistent tone similar to what happened with Ohranger, and it picked up enough in the second half with those issues that In Space could happen. That being said, I'll take entertainingly bad over boring and rushed like Megaforce and Samurai. Solaris Knight fucked around with this message at 16:39 on May 4, 2014 |
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May 4, 2014 16:36
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Yeah the quality of a PR season is pretty much inversely related to the quality of the sentai series. RPM, man. loving RPM. And I never watched Timeranger but that one's pretty bad, too, right?
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May 4, 2014 18:18
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Sockser posted:Yeah the quality of a PR season is pretty much inversely related to the quality of the sentai series. I'm pretty sure Timeranger is considered one of the better series.
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May 4, 2014 18:36
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Sockser posted:Yeah the quality of a PR season is pretty much inversely related to the quality of the sentai series. Speaking of RPM, I'm about to start watching it. I know exactly three things about the season: 1. When they made it, they thought it would be the final season; 2. It's really good; 3. It's also way darker than other seasons. Shall I post my impressions as I make my way through the episodes?
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May 4, 2014 19:34
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Sure, it's always fun to see people respond to shows.  Do keep in mind that though it is "darker" it's still a Power Rangers show. 
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May 4, 2014 20:09
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But people like Go-Onger and Timeranger, so that theory doesn't hold up. They're really differen compared to PR, mind, but they're not reviled either.
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May 4, 2014 22:15
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Basically, how my friend summed it up to me, Power Rangers is at its best when it's trying to be serious, while Sentai is at its best when trying to be goofy. E: Or is that wrong? I only watched the sentai versions of the series I actually liked.
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May 4, 2014 22:36
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Senerio posted:Basically, how my friend summed it up to me, Power Rangers is at its best when it's trying to be serious, while Sentai is at its best when trying to be goofy. Shinkenger and Go-busters are mostly serious and they're both awesome.
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May 4, 2014 22:39
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Senerio posted:Basically, how my friend summed it up to me, Power Rangers is at its best when it's trying to be serious, while Sentai is at its best when trying to be goofy. Probably more accurate to say that Sentai is most POPULAR when it's goofy? Didn't Carranger do crazy-good ratings. while Turbo's tanked? And I know Kamen Rider Den-O is a huge cash cow, and was a pretty silly show/character, compared to Ryuki, or Kiva, or Kabuto.
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May 4, 2014 22:48
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Senerio posted:Basically, how my friend summed it up to me, Power Rangers is at its best when it's trying to be serious, while Sentai is at its best when trying to be goofy. I've heard this before, but it's absolutely false. Shinkenger and Go-Busters, definitely on the serious side of Sentai, are some of the best I've watched, while Go-onger is poo poo and it's goofy as hell. Not to say Sentai does goofy wrong 100% of the time, Kyoryuger was great. Dekaranger too, though that one was more middle of the road than outright comedic, I guess.
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May 4, 2014 22:50
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Senerio posted:Basically, how my friend summed it up to me, Power Rangers is at its best when it's trying to be serious, while Sentai is at its best when trying to be goofy. In pretentious: While the overall tone of Sentai series (plural) vary significantly, every year will still have both goofy filler episodes, and a final arc where poo poo has gotten real. A goofy filler episode can be anywhere from completely asinine (Go-Onger) or absolutely hilarious (Kyoryuger), and the drama can be anywhere between legitimately compelling (Shinkenger) to falling flat on its face (Gekiranger). It really all comes down to what the writing staff for the year is good at, and how well they work with their strengths and weaknesses within the guidelines of the franchise.
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I am disturbed by all this slander against Best Sentai Go-Onger. There's nothing quite like Sousuke and Speedor having a high-drama bro-bonding moment, where Speedor is currently the size of a toy and is clutched in Sousuke's hands. Or when Gunpei is mistaken for a sexual predator when he attempts to bribe a child with a briefcase full of candy.
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May 4, 2014 23:57
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I'd honestly say that PR is generally at its best the further it is from the source sentai. Megaforce is an exception
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:In short: That's wrong. Gekiranger's drama worked fine. 
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For me, the quality of a good power rangers series tends to be more... serious about itself when it needs to be? Its kinda like the Flash Gordon issue - with source material often being as silly as it is, you either need to make it a self aware parody, or something that can play itself so straight that the show convinces you to roll with it. And half assing it doesn't tend to bring great results: the first half of Turbo failed on the former because of the dispute on whether to work with Carranger's comedy or against it; the first half of Megaforce (or just plain old Megaforce in the title listing) fails on the latter because of how it rushes through things and skimps over characters, so that there's nothing to convince you its anything more than a quick, cheap edit of another show. I think the latter then also is why series with more original aspects to them, from the sentai material, have a tendency to work better, or certainly find more approval with the fans. Its easier to tell a convincing story when its your story, and not you slotting in tiny slithers of original material from someone else's. Characters like Andros, Leo, or Wes can have their story arcs better followed and explored through the series because they were made for the series, rather than being existing characters that were tailored with other actors in mind. Now obviously, there are exceptions to any rule, but I think and hope you can see where I'm coming from.
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On /m/ recently, In Power Rangers General, I stumbled upon a behind the scenes post explaining the writing conflict between Jon Tzachor and Judd Lynn between Turbo and Time Force http://deriksmith.livejournal.com/4099.html Basically, the only reason these seasons weren't like Samurai and Megaforce was because there was compromises in writing. Solaris Knight fucked around with this message at 14:39 on May 5, 2014 |
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Solaris Knight posted:On /m/ recently, I stumbled upon a behind the scenes wriitng stuff between Turbo and Time Force ...Man, I knew about some of that stuff, but holy hell. I suppose though this does present one advantage to the sentai and power rangers having grown so far apart production wise (though one wishes they weren't as far apart as they are now), in that the writers can know ahead of time what the series they're working with does/doesn't have. Rather than finding out that the time travel sentai doesn't do time travel because Japan.
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There's a new Coke commercial with some people sitting around eating take out and I SWEAR the current Pink ranger is one of the girls in it. Anyone else seen it? It's for their new slim box 6 pack drinks.
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Rubiks Pubes posted:There's a new Coke commercial with some people sitting around eating take out and I SWEAR the current Pink ranger is one of the girls in it. Anyone else seen it? It's for their new slim box 6 pack drinks. Doesn't seem too crazy, the green ranger is in a Best Buy ad : 
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So this just happened: http://t.co/kUpGlasdq4 Personal feeling is... cautiously hopeful. I mean, this could potentially tie into the recent formation of a South African subsection, and nearly twenty years on, the MMPR guys ARE pretty much still the iconic iteration outside of maybe Samurai by sheer viewership count. On one level, I would say Lionsgate actually has a decent enough history with films involving low level superhuman stuntwork, but writing wise... more questionably so. On another level, Pacific Rim showed you can bring good, giant robot action to the big screen even through CGI, but then, Pacific Rim was also a very expensive film. And whilst this film could be a good chance to modernise and look back on the core aspects of the franchise, seeing what did and didn't work to make the series so popular to begin with, its also possible that they will muck this up and the fanbase will be shattered even further than it already is.
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Mikl posted:Speaking of RPM, I'm about to start watching it. I know exactly three things about the season: Dark? Not really. But there's a good half-dozenish episodes where the plot just keeps going from one episode right to the next.
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Astro Nut posted:So this just happened: Woooooooow. This is going to be hilariously bad. Can't wait.
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Solaris Knight posted:On /m/ recently, In Power Rangers General, I stumbled upon a behind the scenes post explaining the writing conflict between Jon Tzachor and Judd Lynn between Turbo and Time Force And then he came back to be executive producer for RPM, which was amazing. And he's on-board for Dino Charge, so I'm more optimistic than I was previously.
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Sir Coq of Nandos posted:Woooooooow. Not necessarily. It all depends on what the actual plot is going to be and the quality of the writers involved.
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I got a sliver of hope because some original people involved in some capacity, unlike many other reboots/remakes that are being pumped out right now. I'm not that excited though, especially considering we don't have any release date scheduled, no attached writers or directors, and also the memories of the first movie still in my head.
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SpazmasterX posted:Not necessarily. It all depends on what the actual plot is going to be and the quality of the writers involved. Best to keep your expectations low and be pleasantly surprised.
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SpazmasterX posted:Not necessarily. It all depends on what the actual plot is going to be and the quality of the writers involved. I've always felt that one of the reasons why PR didn't do very well, domestically, is that the idea of seeing a Giant Fighting Robot Movie was an actively embarrassing thing to consider. Adding Power Rangers to it doesn't help things in that respect. Plot and writing quality come after the initial reception.
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MisterBibs posted:I've always felt that one of the reasons why PR didn't do very well, domestically, is that the idea of seeing a Giant Fighting Robot Movie was an actively embarrassing thing to consider. Adding Power Rangers to it doesn't help things in that respect. Plot and writing quality come after the initial reception. It really isn't, otherwise Transformers would've been poo poo profit-wise.
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Just hire Paul Freeman as Ivan Ooze again, but with a budget That's all I want! Also, I'm mad but understanding that MMPR got the movie, and not Time Force, RPM, Jungle Fury, or any other season, even Zeo.
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Solaris Knight posted:Just hire Paul Freeman as Ivan Ooze again, but with a budget gently caress all that. Condense Go-Busters into a 2 hour movie.
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Dr Tran posted:gently caress all that. Condense Go-Busters into a 2 hour movie. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck yesssssssssssssssss Actually the more I think of it, the more excited I get about what they could do with some serious money and a CG Dragonzord. Particularly if they take done design cues from Gai's Dragonzord ripoff. Coq au Nandos fucked around with this message at 02:43 on May 8, 2014 |
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May 8, 2014 02:41
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Dr Tran posted:gently caress all that. Condense Go-Busters into a 2 hour movie. Oui, oui, messieurs! All the parents-murdering you can ask for in 120 minutes! Trrrres bien!
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Dr Tran posted:gently caress all that. Condense Go-Busters into a 2 hour movie. I was unironically thinking that this had some serious potential. I'm really sad that it won't see the light of day.
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Solaris Knight posted:Just hire Paul Freeman as Ivan Ooze again, but with a budget Imagine the CGI we could use to knee him in the groin nowadays!
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How do you even do the villain for an MMPR gritty reboot? I wonder if they'll keep Titanus.
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