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Senor Candle: Nov 5, 2008

Alouicious posted:

People always talk up Amanda Conner's art but it looks exactly the same as every other DC House Look art to me

Sorry about your eyes dude.

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Squidster: Oct 7, 2008; ✋😢Life's just better with Ominous Gloves🤗🧤

You're blind or crazy. Take a look at Ed Bene's Power Girl, DC's other premier cheesecake guy. Stiff, forced figures with identical bobbleheads.

Now compare it to Amanda Conner - her figures have more natural posing, the facial expressions are exaggerated and animated, and every sketch has a looseness and confidence. Even when she's drawing unrepentant pinup work, her characters have so much personality and life I can't get angry about it.

Sexuality in comics isn't the enemy here - it's the juvenile one-sided approach to it that's the problem. When you look at the majority of Big Two comics, the women feel like a product sold to the audience. Oversexualised teenagers, forced boobs n' butt poses, monotonous body types, and throughout it all, a pervasive porn-ey atmosphere jammed into stories that are not appropriate for it.

Amanda Conner's work tends to feature sexy cheesecake, yes, but she doesn't mangle the storytelling by forcing it in. Her Power Girl run is about a confident, sexy lady having comedic sexy lady adventures, and the writing and art perfectly match that.

# ? May 5, 2014 03:45

Syrinxx: Mar 28, 2002; Death is whimsical today

Re-reading all the House of M stuff and loved this page from Excalibur #14

# ? May 5, 2014 04:41

Say Nothing: Mar 5, 2013; by FactsAreUseless

# ? May 5, 2014 04:42

Shirkelton: Apr 6, 2009; I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.

Alouicious posted:

People always talk up Amanda Conner's art but it looks exactly the same as every other DC House Look art to me

I have the same problem with J.H. Williams' stuff.

# ? May 5, 2014 07:40

Alaois: Feb 7, 2012

I mean honestly the only comic I've read in the past... my entire life, honestly, is Ms. Marvel #1 and I really liked the way the characters are drawn in that so seeing Amanda Conner Pinup Sexytime Power Girl just doesn't do anything for me

e: well and Hip-Hop Family Tree but that doesn't count

# ? May 5, 2014 07:44

Lurdiak: Feb 26, 2006; I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.

Yeah, Ms. Marvel is not only gorgeous but is as far away from the boring "house" style as you can really get.

# ? May 5, 2014 08:02

Captain Capacitor: Jan 21, 2008; The code you say?

Yeah I'm not really seeing the cheesecake here for Ms. Marvel

I really hope Kamala ends up in this thread a lot.

# ? May 5, 2014 09:40

Dick Trauma: Nov 30, 2007; God damn it, you've got to be kind.

Squidster posted:

This was the panel that got me to buy my first comic since the 1980s. I just love that she was able to convey that the little jelly triangles were afraid of being eaten. Her stuff is consistently well drawn and expressive in a way that appeals to me.

# ? May 5, 2014 14:28

coconono: Aug 11, 2004; KISS ME KRIS

Captain Capacitor posted:

Yeah I'm not really seeing the cheesecake here for Ms. Marvel

I really hope Kamala ends up in this thread a lot.

is that from a FCBD issue? I don't remember that panel.

# ? May 5, 2014 18:03

Hakkesshu: Nov 4, 2009

coconono posted:

is that from a FCBD issue? I don't remember that panel.

No, that's from the Point One issue.

# ? May 5, 2014 18:14

Pimpmust: Oct 1, 2008

Syrinxx posted:

Re-reading all the House of M stuff and loved this page from Excalibur #14

Omega Sentinel/Karima Shapandar is one of the few good things to come out of the Zero Tolerance arc.

Too bad she's been pretty much relegated to sexy cyborg lady/rear end-poses* for the last couple of years, when she's not out cold by the latest cyborg specific virus.

*Okay there was always that, bat at least she got to do stuff too

# ? May 5, 2014 18:16

That Ignorant Sap: Nov 20, 2010; YOU AIN'T LOOKIN' AT A
BUNCH OF RHINOS, HERE.

Ultimate X-Men #31. Colossus is displeased.

# ? May 5, 2014 18:21

Megillah Gorilla: Sep 22, 2003; If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.; Bread Liar

Couldn't he just turn back to flesh and knee Magneto in the balls?

# ? May 5, 2014 18:42

prefect: Sep 11, 2001; No one, Woodhouse.
No one.; Dead Man’s Band

Couldn't Magneto just fire metal-form Colossus into the next hemisphere? He can't force gravity to hold him down, no matter how hard he tries.

And you'd have expected Ultimate Magneto to debone Ultimate Wolverine by now, wouldn't you?

# ? May 5, 2014 18:53

Megillah Gorilla: Sep 22, 2003; If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.; Bread Liar

Or he could just make him hover in mid air. Not much he could do there, either.

# ? May 5, 2014 19:09

Waterhaul: Nov 5, 2005; it was a nice post,
you shouldn't have signed it.

Yeah but all of that would stop Colossus from defeating Magneto with the power of love.

# ? May 5, 2014 19:16

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

Was that before or after he ate the gently caress out of a sandwich? Because as much as he loves Wolverine, he loving LOVES sandwiches.

# ? May 5, 2014 19:24

Chinaman7000: Nov 28, 2003

Magneto should also be dead from having a giant metal man punch him with his building-lifting-muscles so it evens out.

# ? May 5, 2014 20:12

Pimpmust: Oct 1, 2008

The joke's on Magneto, turns out Colossus is made of a non-ferrous metal.

# ? May 5, 2014 21:14

The Question IRL: Jun 8, 2013; Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

That Ignorant Sap posted:

Ultimate X-Men #31. Colossus is displeased.

That is a fantastic page which is everything I love about comics and heroes being heroes by doing the impossible and breaking rules.
The worst part about those scans is that a latter writer literally said that the only reason why Ultimate Colossus could do all that is he shot up on power enhancing drugs (called Banshee because 616 references are all en vogue). But forget all that and focus on those badass panels instead.

# ? May 5, 2014 22:33

Uthor: Jul 9, 2006; Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.

"Badass Panels: Pretty much just excessive violence"? Okay! (This started off headed for the funny panels, but...)

Shaolin Cowboy is running from zombies.

Shaolin Cowboy #1

Then, you get 22 double page spreads in issues #2-3 of this (timg for size, violence, and naked zombies):

Then, seven more pages of double page spreads of this:

Issue #4 tones it down to approximately 20 single pages of this:

Culminating in:

Shaolin Cowbow #2-4

Note: I have included 95% of the dialog in the four issue arc.

# ? May 5, 2014 23:36

Senor Candle: Nov 5, 2008

Uthor posted:

Note: I have included 95% of the dialog in the four issue arc.

You didn't post the "previously on" from the first issue. I'd say you actually posted about 1% of the text.

# ? May 5, 2014 23:47

Uthor: Jul 9, 2006; Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.

Senor Candle posted:

You didn't post the "previously on" from the first issue. I'd say you actually posted about 1% of the text.

poo poo, I forgot. I already grabbed a screenshot of those pages for my friend, so here you go:

Shaolin Cowboy #1

# ? May 5, 2014 23:53

Snowglobe of Doom: Mar 30, 2012; sucks to be right

Uthor posted:

Note: I have included 95% of the dialog in the four issue arc.

Senor Candle posted:

You didn't post the "previously on" from the first issue. I'd say you actually posted about 1% of the text.

That intro alludes to but doesn't contain any dialogue so you're both right. :eng101:

# ? May 6, 2014 00:04

Teenage Fansub: Jan 28, 2006

Green Arrow #31.

Too bad about Katana's actual series :/

# ? May 8, 2014 17:33

Dolash: Oct 23, 2008; aNYWAY,
tHAT'S REALLY ALL THERE IS,
tO REPORT ON THE SUBJECT,
oF ME GETTING HURT,

That ship in the last panel says "Mary Sew" on it. Coincidence?

# ? May 8, 2014 18:16

Parahexavoctal: Oct 10, 2004; I AM NOT BEING PAID TO CORRECT OTHER PEOPLE'S POSTS! DONKEY!!

Lot of nice scenes in the original Suicide Squad - for instance, Gort vs Deadshot.

Ivan Illyich Gort was an 80-year-old Soviet metahuman who'd fought in WW2, where he was nicknamed "Stalnoivolk" - a name that means both "Steel Wolf" and "Stalin's Wolf", which should give you an idea of his personality. He had the powers of Superman from Action Comics #1 - he could leap 1/8 of a mile, hurdle 20-story buildings, raise tremendous weights, outrun a train, and nothing less than a bursting shell could penetrate his skin. Not modern-day Kryptonian by any means -- not even Superman from 1945 -- but pretty drat impressive when up against normal humans.

So when Amanda Waller recruits him for the Squad, he tells her that he's so grateful to her for getting him out of prison that he won't kill her. Then he gets set to leave... and discovers that maybe only a bursting shell could have penetrated his skin back in the 40s, but nowadays we have lasers.

Anyway. Gort gets sent on a Squad mission, with Deadshot-and-a-laser-pistol as a chaperone. As usual for Squad missions, things go terribly wrong, and their plane gets shot out of the sky, stranding the survivors in a jungle in Cambodia. Gort wants to just walk away from the mission and leave everyone else to die, but Deadshot points the laser pistol at him...

and later, because Gort was being so uncooperative, Deadshot is riding him piggyback, and holding him at laser-pistolpoint. They even meet some Russian metas, and Gort asks them (in Russian) if they could "get rid of this flea on my back", and Deadshot says (also in Russian) "one wrong move, comrade, and a beam of light goes in one ear and out the other", and the Russians back down.

Anyway. Eventually the mission concludes, more people die, (as someone on Usenet once said, "it wouldn't be a Squad mission without the bitter taste of ashes"), the survivors get out, and Gort gets left behind. And someone asks Deadshot "why didn't you use the laser pistol to <set off the explosives or something, I don't remember precisely what it was>?"

and Deadshot says "oh, the laser pistol broke when we fell out of the plane. drat thing's completely useless."

# ? May 8, 2014 20:41

Madkal: Feb 11, 2008; I believe in all the ways that they say you can lose your body; Fallen Rib

Parahexavoctal posted:

Lot of nice scenes in the original Suicide Squad - for instance, Gort vs Deadshot.

Ivan Illyich Gort was an 80-year-old Soviet metahuman who'd fought in WW2, where he was nicknamed "Stalnoivolk" - a name that means both "Steel Wolf" and "Stalin's Wolf", which should give you an idea of his personality. He had the powers of Superman from Action Comics #1 - he could leap 1/8 of a mile, hurdle 20-story buildings, raise tremendous weights, outrun a train, and nothing less than a bursting shell could penetrate his skin. Not modern-day Kryptonian by any means -- not even Superman from 1945 -- but pretty drat impressive when up against normal humans.

So when Amanda Waller recruits him for the Squad, he tells her that he's so grateful to her for getting him out of prison that he won't kill her. Then he gets set to leave... and discovers that maybe only a bursting shell could have penetrated his skin back in the 40s, but nowadays we have lasers.

Anyway. Gort gets sent on a Squad mission, with Deadshot-and-a-laser-pistol as a chaperone. As usual for Squad missions, things go terribly wrong, and their plane gets shot out of the sky, stranding the survivors in a jungle in Cambodia. Gort wants to just walk away from the mission and leave everyone else to die, but Deadshot points the laser pistol at him...

and later, because Gort was being so uncooperative, Deadshot is riding him piggyback, and holding him at laser-pistolpoint. They even meet some Russian metas, and Gort asks them (in Russian) if they could "get rid of this flea on my back", and Deadshot says (also in Russian) "one wrong move, comrade, and a beam of light goes in one ear and out the other", and the Russians back down.

Anyway. Eventually the mission concludes, more people die, (as someone on Usenet once said, "it wouldn't be a Squad mission without the bitter taste of ashes"), the survivors get out, and Gort gets left behind. And someone asks Deadshot "why didn't you use the laser pistol to <set off the explosives or something, I don't remember precisely what it was>?"

and Deadshot says "oh, the laser pistol broke when we fell out of the plane. drat thing's completely useless."

Deadshot is all kinds of awesome!

From the Deadshot mini written by Gage.
For context Deadshot finds out that he had a daughter with some hooker he slept with years ago. Deadshot being big into family (read the Ostrander trade if you haven't) decides to provide for his kid. Turns out her and her mother live in dodgy neighbourhood so Deadshot decides to make it a safe place for his daughter the only way he knows how ie killing all the gangsters there. One of his old buddies turns up and decides to take over the neighbourhood now that there is no competition. The above shows how well that goes.

# ? May 8, 2014 21:18

Parahexavoctal: Oct 10, 2004; I AM NOT BEING PAID TO CORRECT OTHER PEOPLE'S POSTS! DONKEY!!

Madkal posted:

Deadshot is all kinds of awesome!

from the Ostrander 8-issue Squad mini a few years back - a scene where Deadshot's on a mission, and things have (as always) gone wrong.

He's been injured in one eye, which could screw up his aim.

So he takes off his mask and wraps a strip of cloth over his eyes... and finishes the mission blindfolded.

# ? May 8, 2014 22:09

Vengeance of Pandas: Sep 8, 2008; THE TERRIBLE POST WENT THATAWAY!

Parahexavoctal posted:

Lot of nice scenes in the original Suicide Squad - for instance, Gort vs Deadshot.

Ivan Illyich Gort was an 80-year-old Soviet metahuman who'd fought in WW2, where he was nicknamed "Stalnoivolk" - a name that means both "Steel Wolf" and "Stalin's Wolf", which should give you an idea of his personality. He had the powers of Superman from Action Comics #1 - he could leap 1/8 of a mile, hurdle 20-story buildings, raise tremendous weights, outrun a train, and nothing less than a bursting shell could penetrate his skin. Not modern-day Kryptonian by any means -- not even Superman from 1945 -- but pretty drat impressive when up against normal humans.

So when Amanda Waller recruits him for the Squad, he tells her that he's so grateful to her for getting him out of prison that he won't kill her. Then he gets set to leave... and discovers that maybe only a bursting shell could have penetrated his skin back in the 40s, but nowadays we have lasers.

Anyway. Gort gets sent on a Squad mission, with Deadshot-and-a-laser-pistol as a chaperone. As usual for Squad missions, things go terribly wrong, and their plane gets shot out of the sky, stranding the survivors in a jungle in Cambodia. Gort wants to just walk away from the mission and leave everyone else to die, but Deadshot points the laser pistol at him...

and later, because Gort was being so uncooperative, Deadshot is riding him piggyback, and holding him at laser-pistolpoint. They even meet some Russian metas, and Gort asks them (in Russian) if they could "get rid of this flea on my back", and Deadshot says (also in Russian) "one wrong move, comrade, and a beam of light goes in one ear and out the other", and the Russians back down.

Anyway. Eventually the mission concludes, more people die, (as someone on Usenet once said, "it wouldn't be a Squad mission without the bitter taste of ashes"), the survivors get out, and Gort gets left behind. And someone asks Deadshot "why didn't you use the laser pistol to <set off the explosives or something, I don't remember precisely what it was>?"

and Deadshot says "oh, the laser pistol broke when we fell out of the plane. drat thing's completely useless."

They didn't fall out of the plane.

Edit: Ostrander really made Deadshot who he was, the new 52 origin is just weak compared to the old one.

# ? May 8, 2014 22:21

DivineCoffeeBinge: Mar 3, 2011; Spider-Man's Amazing Construction Company

As much as I love that scene - and pretty much every issue of Ostrander's Suicide Squad - I have to admit, what caps it for me is Count Vertigo being all "wait a second if all the peasants jump out of the plane I'll have to carry my own bags this is unacceptable."

# ? May 9, 2014 00:50

Avulsion: Feb 12, 2006; I never knew what hit me

DivineCoffeeBinge posted:

As much as I love that scene - and pretty much every issue of Ostrander's Suicide Squad - I have to admit, what caps it for me is Count Vertigo being all "wait a second if all the peasants jump out of the plane I'll have to carry my own bags this is unacceptable."

# ? May 9, 2014 02:59

Trundel: Mar 13, 2005; + =
- a sound investment!

You all should read Warren Ellis' Moon Knight. Issue 3 by Marvel's own description is "Moon Knight punches ghosts."

I love Moon Knight so much.

# ? May 9, 2014 06:27

Gravitas Shortfall: Jul 17, 2007; Utility is seven-eighths Proximity.

Trundel posted:

You all should read Warren Ellis' Moon Knight. Issue 3 by Marvel's own description is "Moon Knight punches ghosts."

I love Moon Knight so much.

The highest praise I can give this run of Moon Knight is that it feels like at any moment it could segue into a crossover with Planetary, and I would be totally okay with it.

# ? May 9, 2014 09:48

Avulsion: Feb 12, 2006; I never knew what hit me

Gravitas Shortfall posted:

The highest praise I can give this run of Moon Knight is that it feels like at any moment it could segue into a crossover with Planetary, and I would be totally okay with it.

Maybe he'll go fight the Fantastic Four at some point.

# ? May 9, 2014 10:16