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Base Emitter
Apr 1, 2012

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DrBouvenstein posted:

But Smart Media cards had the advantage of looking the coolest out of all those early 2000's memory card formats:


The first MP3 player I had took those and barely held the music a cassette did.

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Crini
Sep 2, 2011

Code Jockey posted:

Yep! I remember some stuff I couldn't do this with though, it'd explicitly tell me that I needed to specify the program name to load.

This is because LOAD"*" grabs the first title and loads it, and some software didn't have the main program as the first program on the disk. Maybe the manual/demos/a pile of other pirated stuff since no one ever had legit copies of software on the C64 came first in the index. :v:

I had the fast load cartridge, press two keys simultaneously and off it went. I just can't remember which two.

GWBBQ
Jan 2, 2005


I bought obsolete technology today! A local boy scout troop in one of the richest towns in CT collects donations and sells them at their annual tag sale, and I went in search of anything nifty looking. I was in line to get in and someone walked out with an Eames Chair, to give an idea.

The first one is some sort of printing press tool, I think it's a gauge for typeseting, but if anyone knows for sure I'd love to know. For $2, it's a nice shelf piece.



Next up is a paper hygroscope sword for newspaper printing. Patent date is 1934, it may be as new as late 1940s. You wave it around in the air for 30 seconds to set it to ambient humidity, twist the gauge face until it lines up with the needle, then stick it into the middle of a stack of newsprint to measure relative humidity of the paper. You want it to be between 5 and 8 percent above the humidity of the room to avoid wrinkling and warping. They asked me what I was going to do with it, I said "I'm going to put it on a display shelf, but I'm also going to measure the humidity of stacks of paper with it just because I can."

It's made by Accurate Machine & Tool Corporation and the gauge says it's patented by the Lithographic Technical Institute. I can't find anything about it other than the patent (filed 1931, granted 1934,) so if anyone has any info about the company or what it's worth, I'd love to know about it, too.

DarthBlingBling
Apr 19, 2004

These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box

Base Emitter posted:

The first MP3 player I had took those and barely held the music a cassette did.

The first MP3 player I had was 32MB in size and could be expanded with memory cards of type that escape my memory (up to 32MB in size again).

I think I managed to squeeze an album onto it.

Peanut Butler
Jul 25, 2003



DarthBlingBling posted:

The first MP3 player I had was 32MB in size and could be expanded with memory cards of type that escape my memory (up to 32MB in size again).

I think I managed to squeeze an album onto it.

I had one of these:


32MB, non-expandable- and yup, about an album's worth, maybe a bit more if you compressed to warlby .wma files

DarthBlingBling
Apr 19, 2004

These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box

Christmas Present posted:

I had one of these:


32MB, non-expandable- and yup, about an album's worth, maybe a bit more if you compressed to warlby .wma files

Yes, I loved using WMP to convert CDs to WMAs only to find later that I forgot to deselect the default option of 'protecting all WMAs created' meaning they were pretty much useless outside of my PC.

Smoke
Mar 12, 2005

I am NOT a red Bumblebee for god's sake!

Gun Saliva
I had one of these back then:



Great display, shock resistance and battery life, played just about everything I threw at it but it was rather picky with ID3 tags. Didn't matter too much as I just put it on shuffle and went about my day most of the time. Sadly it never remembered any settings after hitting Stop, so every time I used it I had to enable the Shuffle feature.

I replaced it with a first-gen iPod Mini a few years later.

pienipple
Mar 20, 2009

That's wrong!

Christmas Present posted:

I had one of these:


32MB, non-expandable- and yup, about an album's worth, maybe a bit more if you compressed to warlby .wma files

I had one of these



and one of these



Used the 500 for a long time, the smart card door broke off and the selector wheel stopped working.

Goldskull
Feb 20, 2011

So obsolete no pictures on the internet exist of it, my first MP3 player was a whopping 128MB Zeon Tech one from ~2003, which consumed AAA batteries like they were going out of fashion. The price? A mighty £99.95. The only reason it's hour worth of music I could fit on it was viable was because it was free as I worked for them and we had batteries on tap there for the in-house electronic devices, it went through about 4 a week.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


I was at my grandparents hourse today, and noticed a pile of these:



NOT that they are VHS tapes, but BASF - a word I associated with tapes as a child.

DarthBlingBling
Apr 19, 2004

These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box
My second MP3 player had a much bigger HD. Took me a while to remember what it was called but it was the Rio Riot and it was loving huge!



Its 20GB storage, decent battery life and intuitive UI were pretty good for the time.

Only issues were the physical size, its weight (very heavy) and the fact it was USB 1 so it took virtually a day to fill the thing up.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Humphreys posted:

NOT that they are VHS tapes, but BASF - a word I associated with tapes as a child.
:eng101: BASF is actually a chemical company. The division making those tapes, BASF Magnetics, was spun off as EMTEC in 1997 and sold a year later.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


BASF was also part of the IG Farben group of companies, which you may have heard of as the manufacturers of Zyklon B.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


DarthBlingBling posted:

My second MP3 player had a much bigger HD. Took me a while to remember what it was called but it was the Rio Riot and it was loving huge!



Its 20GB storage, decent battery life and intuitive UI were pretty good for the time.

Only issues were the physical size, its weight (very heavy) and the fact it was USB 1 so it took virtually a day to fill the thing up.

Oh how I wanted that thing. USB was a luxury, my Pine D'Music 32MB was Parallel!

EDIT: ^^ wow for some reason I had Bayer in my head for Zyklon B.

Humphreys has a new favorite as of 16:03 on May 5, 2014

Trebek
Mar 7, 2002
College Slice

DarthBlingBling posted:

Its 20GB storage, decent battery life and intuitive UI were pretty good for the time.

My current mp3 player (iphone5) is only 16gb so that must of been pretty high end for it's time.

Ron Burgundy
Dec 24, 2005
This burrito is delicious, but it is filling.
I posted much earlier in the thread about my insane hobby of having cinema projectors in my house. I got around to making detailed video about the excruciating process of screening a single reel of film. It's pretty much wall to wall obsolete technology.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfoL8EkhSFM

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

KozmoNaut posted:

BASF was also part of the IG Farben group of companies, which you may have heard of as the manufacturers of Zyklon B.

Yeah, but the part of IG Farben who produced it was actually Degesch, not BASF.

Degesch still exists, and a Czech company still makes Zyklon B, under a different name.

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

DarthBlingBling posted:

The first MP3 player I had was 32MB in size and could be expanded with memory cards of type that escape my memory (up to 32MB in size again).

I think I managed to squeeze an album onto it.

Highly likely it was either smart media or compact flash. SD/xD/memory stick weren't really a thing until the early-mid 2000s.

Since we're revisiting MP3 player chat, my first was a RCA Lyra:



Was initially available with a 32 or 64 MB CF card, which had to be removed from the player to write to. It shipped with a parallel CF reader that was painfully slow and I typically ended up using a PCMCIA adapter with my dad's work laptop and a crossover network cable to write files to it, which was marginally faster.

Later when I had my first full time job out of highschool I bought a Creative Nomad 3:



20 GB platter drive and featuring a 1394 connection for fast data transfer, this released about a year before USB 2.0 was available. Fortunately my soundcard - an original SB Audigy - had a 1394 controller built in, otherwise I would have been stuck with USB 1.1 speeds or have to buy a separate controller card. This thing was a tank, and actually still works aside from the headphone jack being worn out.

Geoj has a new favorite as of 17:18 on May 5, 2014

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010





Y'all scrubs. 40 GB storage, long-lasting battery. The only downside was that it's a bitch to upload music to it, you either had to use their software on Windows or (in my case) some reverse-engineered crap. No USB mass storage option.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Pham Nuwen posted:



Y'all scrubs. 40 GB storage, long-lasting battery. The only downside was that it's a bitch to upload music to it, you either had to use their software on Windows or (in my case) some reverse-engineered crap. No USB mass storage option.

I had one of those, until the hard drive in it died on me one day :smith:

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Pham Nuwen posted:



Y'all scrubs. 40 GB storage, long-lasting battery. The only downside was that it's a bitch to upload music to it, you either had to use their software on Windows or (in my case) some reverse-engineered crap. No USB mass storage option.

What a loser, only 40 gb? I'm still using my 60gb Xtra, had to ebay new battery but otherwise it works as well as when I bought it. File transfer is a PITA but the library functionality more than made up for it.

Iron Crowned posted:

I had one of those, until the hard drive in it died on me one day :smith:
You know you can just replace it with a standard PATA drive, right?

mobby_6kl has a new favorite as of 17:52 on May 5, 2014

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Pham Nuwen posted:



Y'all scrubs. 40 GB storage, long-lasting battery. The only downside was that it's a bitch to upload music to it, you either had to use their software on Windows or (in my case) some reverse-engineered crap. No USB mass storage option.

It's me, I'm the guy who bought this:




I didn't like how Apple forced you to use iTunes and just wanted something I could plug in and use like a removable HDD/USB mass storage. Of course, that's not what the Zune was at all :eng99: The software Microsoft made you use was even crappier than anything to ever come from Apple.

It was so drat bad.

Especially at managing files. If you put files into the shared folder on your computer to sync up with Zune it would freak out if there were more than a few dozen and simply not load half of them.

Oh, and if you deleted a song off your Zune to make space or whatever, it would also delete it from your computer even when you had syncing turned off. Fully delete it. As it, can't use Ctrl Z, not in the rubbish bin. Gone.

Because that's a great design feature.

Megillah Gorilla has a new favorite as of 18:16 on May 5, 2014

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Gorilla Salad posted:

It's me, I'm the guy who bought this:




I didn't like how Apple forced you to use iTunes and just wanted something I could plug in and use like a removable HDD/USB mass storage. Of course, that's not what the Zune was at all :eng99: The software Microsoft made you use was even crappier than anything to ever come from Apple.

It was so drat bad.

Especially at managing files. If you put files into the shared folder on your computer to sync up with Zune it would freak out if there were more than a few dozen and simply not load half of them.

Oh, and if you deleted a song off your Zune to make space or whatever, it would also delete it from your computer even when you had syncing turned off. Fully delete it. As it, can't use Ctrl Z, not in the rubbish bin. Gone.

Because that's a great design feature.

I won a Zune in a drawing. I already had my Creative mp3 player, so I didn't even open the box, I just stuck it on craigslist immediately.

No interest. Not even for $50.

I eventually had to give the drat thing away to one of my friends, the poor bastard.

b0nes
Sep 11, 2001

p-hop posted:

My car is a 2006 Buick Lesabre. The stock stereo has AM/FM and a cassette deck. 2006 cassette deck. I have one of those cassette tape / headphone jack converters and it does the job just fine. I've heard that some models (such as mine) are built with outdated/legacy stereo stuff because the primary market is elderly people. It's a grandpa car and grandpa still has cassette tapes. Anyone know if that's true?

Also, I can't even imagine the smell when you open one of those glass-top cars on a hot summer day. You're out of work finally, go to your car to head home, open the car door and... WHOOMF 130°F of pleather/vinyl/plastic fumes.

I used to work at an electronics recycler, and among other cameras we would get Sony Mavica models that used a 3.5" floppy disk for external media storage. No other memory card options. You've got a whopping 1.4 megabytes of storage before swapping discs. Even when it was new, 1.4 MB was tiny and nearly useless. The strangest part is that after refurbishing and putting them on ebay, they would ALWAYS sell for a decent amount of money. Who on earth would want one of these and what would you even do with it? :cripes:



I used to work for Fedex. They still used Mavicas for taking ID photos.

7734
Feb 8, 2008

b0nes posted:

I used to work for Fedex. They still used Mavicas for taking ID photos.


Found this at Goodwill yesterday for a whopping $5. Original price in 2000-2001 was somewhere around $500.
Wonder what sort of treasures are on that floppy?

Lowen SoDium
Jun 5, 2003

Highen Fiber
Clapping Larry

Gorilla Salad posted:

It's me, I'm the guy who bought this:




I didn't like how Apple forced you to use iTunes and just wanted something I could plug in and use like a removable HDD/USB mass storage. Of course, that's not what the Zune was at all :eng99: The software Microsoft made you use was even crappier than anything to ever come from Apple.

It was so drat bad.

Especially at managing files. If you put files into the shared folder on your computer to sync up with Zune it would freak out if there were more than a few dozen and simply not load half of them.

Oh, and if you deleted a song off your Zune to make space or whatever, it would also delete it from your computer even when you had syncing turned off. Fully delete it. As it, can't use Ctrl Z, not in the rubbish bin. Gone.

Because that's a great design feature.

Pham Nuwen posted:

I won a Zune in a drawing. I already had my Creative mp3 player, so I didn't even open the box, I just stuck it on craigslist immediately.

No interest. Not even for $50.

I eventually had to give the drat thing away to one of my friends, the poor bastard.

I also won a Zune. At the time, the only MP3 player I had was a little Sandisk Sansa that I listened to when working out. I had used a friends then-current-gen iPod, and I thought it was ok but didn't really wow me. iTunes was a pretty big pile of poo poo, though.

The Zune... honestly I thought that the UI for it was pretty descent. And I must be the only person in the world who thought this, but I thought that the windows Zune software was pretty good. Good enough that I actually used it for a while longer than I did the Zune it self.

Maybe I would have felt different about it if I had to pay for it. I mean, I wouldn't have paid for an iPod either, so take for what it is worth.

Ron Burgundy
Dec 24, 2005
This burrito is delicious, but it is filling.
We have Nokia Lumia 800s still in the field at work and Zune is THE software that these things pair with.

strangemusic
Aug 7, 2008

I shield you because I need charge
Is not because I like you or anything!


Geoj posted:


Later when I had my first full time job out of highschool I bought a Creative Nomad 3:



20 GB platter drive and featuring a 1394 connection for fast data transfer, this released about a year before USB 2.0 was available. Fortunately my soundcard - an original SB Audigy - had a 1394 controller built in, otherwise I would have been stuck with USB 1.1 speeds or have to buy a separate controller card. This thing was a tank, and actually still works aside from the headphone jack being worn out.

I had this too and it was AMAZING for its day.

DrBouvenstein
Feb 28, 2007

I think I'm a doctor, but that doesn't make me a doctor. This fancy avatar does.


I never had this beast, but I almost sort of wanted one. IIRC, it just took a standard "laptop" sized HD (2.5") so it was super-easy to upgrade your storage...so long as you had the money.

EdBlackadder
Apr 8, 2009
Lipstick Apathy

strangemusic posted:

I had this too and it was AMAZING for its day.

I got one and it impressed my family so much that my brother and Dad picked them up too. Still miss it, when the disk died I traded for a first gen iPod mini. Which died a couple of years later and got replaced with another. But they were never the same. The last one is still somewhere in my house, was using it with my car stereo until I wrote it off. I think it's under the stairs, still full of Reel Big Fish.

evb
Oct 21, 2008

Ron Burgundy posted:

I posted much earlier in the thread about my insane hobby of having cinema projectors in my house. I got around to making detailed video about the excruciating process of screening a single reel of film. It's pretty much wall to wall obsolete technology.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfoL8EkhSFM

This is awesome, thanks for sharing.

axolotl farmer
May 17, 2007

Now I'm going to sing the Perry Mason theme



No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

I never had the tape drive for my C64, but I did have one of these:



The cable plugged into the headphone output on any standard cassette player, the business end plugged into your Atari 2600's cartridge port. 6KB of RAM, compared to the Atari's 128 bytes:




Mind. Blown.

Pilsner
Nov 23, 2002

I had this 20GB brick, the Creative Nomad Zen:



I bought it instead of an iPod since it was "only" around $600 compared to the iPod being like $900 in my country at the time. It worked well and I actually liked the navigation. I also liked how it had a "play now" virtual playlist where you could just add albums as you pleased, instead of the iPod's thing with just choosing one album then playing it until the end (am I wrong?)

Trebek posted:

My current mp3 player (iphone5) is only 16gb so that must of been pretty high end for it's time.
Both yes and no, those early large-capicity MP3 players just used a regular old 2.5" hard drive, whereas the iPhone has flash memory. They were quite heavy.

WescottF1
Oct 21, 2000
Forums Veteran

GWBBQ posted:

I bought obsolete technology today! A local boy scout troop in one of the richest towns in CT collects donations and sells them at their annual tag sale, and I went in search of anything nifty looking. I was in line to get in and someone walked out with an Eames Chair, to give an idea.

The first one is some sort of printing press tool, I think it's a gauge for typeseting, but if anyone knows for sure I'd love to know. For $2, it's a nice shelf piece.


That's pretty cool. My dad and grandpa both worked for Goss for ~20 years. Unfortunately, neither are alive anymore so I can't ask about the tool...

sirbeefalot
Aug 24, 2004
Fast Learner.
Fun Shoe

Seeing that thread never fails to make me chuckle.

a wrong person posted:

Raise your hand if you have iTunes ...

Raise your hand if you have a FireWire port ...

Raise your hand if you have both ...

Raise your hand if you have $400 to spend on a cute Apple device ...

There is Apple's market. Pretty slim, eh? I don't see many sales in the future of iPod.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

DrBouvenstein posted:



I never had this beast, but I almost sort of wanted one. IIRC, it just took a standard "laptop" sized HD (2.5") so it was super-easy to upgrade your storage...so long as you had the money.

I did have one, very briefly. It was total crap and it was returned to the store within 48 hours.

mints
Aug 15, 2001

Living on past glories

sirbeefalot posted:

Seeing that thread never fails to make me chuckle.

I'm so glad they pushed out a Windows compatible version pretty quickly. That was right around the time I switched over to Macs though so I never had to put up with that crap program they had for Windows before iTunes came out.

BigHustle
Oct 19, 2005

Fast and Bulbous

GWBBQ posted:

I bought obsolete technology today! A local boy scout troop in one of the richest towns in CT collects donations and sells them at their annual tag sale, and I went in search of anything nifty looking. I was in line to get in and someone walked out with an Eames Chair, to give an idea.

The first one is some sort of printing press tool, I think it's a gauge for typeseting, but if anyone knows for sure I'd love to know. For $2, it's a nice shelf piece.



Looks like that might be a composing stick. Here's a video that shows how to use it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHrLIVeH1KM

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Club Sandwich
May 25, 2012

BigHustle posted:

Looks like that might be a composing stick. Here's a video that shows how to use it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHrLIVeH1KM

I used to work in a print shop and a composing stick is usually a little shelf with a back to rest the type against. This definitely doesn't look like it would serve the same purpose as a composing stick and instead might have served some sort of measurement or adjustment purpose.

edit: Now that I think about it, this might be some sort of tool for measuring line height or stacks of paper, given the adjustment knob on the right.

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