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Mortabis
Jul 8, 2010

I am stupid
Are F-16s not acceptably good as air to air fighters?

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Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
For now, sure. They're not as good as F-15s or Super Hornets, but they're still better than most potential adversary fighters. The problem is they're 30+ years old, and at what point do you stop buying a blend of old/newish tech on a maxed-out airframe?

PookBear
Nov 1, 2008



m-m-monster kill

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

CAW CAW

CAW CAW

NIGGER DEATH TURBO
Jul 4, 2013

by Lowtax

:shibewow:

Kung Fu Fist Fuck
Aug 9, 2009

Reverand maynard posted:



m-m-monster kill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnHNrUCi1Jw

Sax Offender
Sep 9, 2007

College Slice
It turns out we aren't the only ones who can't figure out INFOSEC.

Putin's Human Rights Council Accidentally Posts Real Crimean Election Results; Only 15% Voted For Annexation

Forbes posted:

The website of the “President of Russia’s Council on Civil Society and Human Rights” posted a blog that was quickly taken down as if it were toxic radioactive waste. According to the Council’s report about the March referendum to annex Crimea, the turnout was a maximum 30%. And of these, only half voted for annexation – meaning only 15 percent of Crimean citizens voted for annexation.

Forbes posted:

To make sure no one misses this:

Official Kremlin results: 97% for annexation, turnout 83 percent, and percent of Crimeans voting in favor 82%.

President’s Human Rights Council results: 50% for annexation, turnout 30%, percent of Crimeans voting in favor 15%.

I, for one, am shocked that our good friend Russian friends may have been less than honest on this one.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


We had an airshow this weekend, and a dude in a biplane crashed and died. He's a veteran stunt pilot from the local area. Our poor OG/CC had to give a bunch of interviews on the news. Pretty glad I wasn't working yesterday. Despite being a fairly minor crash, it's been pretty goddamn busy all day.












But then the news played clips of Slav death and my raging erection made me forget about that.

The Orgasm Sanction
Dec 30, 2006

Svelte
Slav Death Erection would make for a sweet username.

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice

Derek Dominoe posted:

It turns out we aren't the only ones who can't figure out INFOSEC.

Putin's Human Rights Council Accidentally Posts Real Crimean Election Results; Only 15% Voted For Annexation



I, for one, am shocked that our good friend Russian friends may have been less than honest on this one.

So they have what legitimacy left again?

...and yet I know people will still slob that Russian knob. I'll put my chips on 'False Flag' operation claims.

Courthouse
Jul 23, 2013

SumYungGui posted:

So they have what legitimacy left again?

...and yet I know people will still slob that Russian knob. I'll put my chips on 'False Flag' operation claims.

It All Belongs To Mother Russia?

But seriously, a lot of people are still trapped in the "sphere of influence" "Russia's back yard" line of thinking where they confuse 'Can' with 'has the right to'. Then again whether you accept the annexation because you think it is legitimate or because no one wants a land war with Russia really doesn't matter all that much to Putin.






Has anyone posted on Boko Haram kidnapping 200 schoolgirls and intending to sell them into slavery? Seems like a decent candidate for the west riding to the rescue and getting us stuck in another quagmire.

-Anders
Feb 1, 2007

Denmark. Wait, what?

Courthouse posted:

It All Belongs To Mother Russia?

But seriously, a lot of people are still trapped in the "sphere of influence" "Russia's back yard" line of thinking where they confuse 'Can' with 'has the right to'. Then again whether you accept the annexation because you think it is legitimate or because no one wants a land war with Russia really doesn't matter all that much to Putin.






Has anyone posted on Boko Haram kidnapping 200 schoolgirls and intending to sell them into slavery? Seems like a decent candidate for the west riding to the rescue and getting us stuck in another quagmire.

It's in Africa isn't it? Noone gives a poo poo about Africa.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Courthouse posted:

Has anyone posted on Boko Haram kidnapping 200 schoolgirls and intending to sell them into slavery? Seems like a decent candidate for the west riding to the rescue and getting us stuck in another quagmire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKjprq67kYI

Snowdens Secret
Dec 29, 2008
Someone got you a obnoxiously racist av.
Speaking of infosec

http://thediplomat.com/2014/05/china-reveals-online-spy-ring-targeting-its-military/

quote:

The reports said that one suspect, identified only by his surname, Li, has already been sentenced to 10 years in prison for providing Feige with highly classified and classified documents. Li was accused of passing along information from China’s internal military publications, as well as carrying out in-person surveillance of military bases in Guangdong province. He transferred pictures of the military bases, including of military equipment installations to Feige.

Feige apparently first contacted Li in 2011 by posing as a woman and chatting with Li about his personal life. After a month of befriending Li, Feige then revealed that he was a man, and offered Li 3,000 RMB ($480) a month to provide information on China’s military. Under Feige’s guidance, Li subscribed to military publications intended only for Chinese audiences. He would then pass information from these publications on to Feige.

Also the chinese have their own m0t:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/10808719/China-plans-for-North-Korean-regime-collapse-leaked.html

quote:

Documents drawn up by planners from China’s People’s Liberation Army that were leaked to Japanese media include proposals for detaining key North Korean leaders and the creation of refugee camps on the Chinese side of the frontier in the event of an outbreak of civil unrest in the secretive state.

The report calls for stepping up monitoring of China’s 879-mile border with North Korea.

Any senior North Korean military or political leaders who could be the target of either rival factions or another “military power,” thought to be a reference to the United States, should be given protection, the documents state.

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

-Anders posted:

It's in Africa isn't it? Noone gives a poo poo about Africa.

Except Benghazi. rip

NIGGER DEATH TURBO
Jul 4, 2013

by Lowtax

Courthouse posted:

Has anyone posted on Boko Haram kidnapping 200 schoolgirls and intending to sell them into slavery? Seems like a decent candidate for the west riding to the rescue and getting us stuck in another quagmire.

maybe if the kids were white or if whatever country this is used to be a french colony

Bolow
Feb 27, 2007

scroogle nmaps posted:

Except Benghazi. rip

Yeah but that's North Africa. Nobody gives a poo poo about that continent unless it's on the Mediterranean

Courthouse
Jul 23, 2013

friend of the family DEATH TURBO posted:

maybe if the kids were white or if whatever country this is used to be a french colony

Well the schoolgirls are christian, and the kidnappers are muslim, does that count?

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Courthouse posted:

Well the schoolgirls are christian, and the kidnappers are muslim, does that count?

I spared them a sympathetic thought and a hope that they can find a way to escape which is probably about as much as anyone, anywhere is going to do.

Snowdens Secret
Dec 29, 2008
Someone got you a obnoxiously racist av.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...a93b_story.html

quote:

The months-long effort to dismantle Syria’s chemical weapons program has ground to a halt because Syria is holding on to 27 tons of sarin precursor chemicals as leverage in a dispute with the international community over the future of facilities used to store the deadly agents, according to U.S. officials.

Having turned over all but an estimated 8 percent of its chemical arsenal to the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, Damascus missed a deadline Sunday to relinquish the remnants of its arsenal, which are stored in 16 containers in Damascus, U.S. officials said.
...
“Until and unless all of the declared material is removed from the country,” and any lingering questions about additional, undeclared stockpiles are addressed, “it is unwise for OPCW to be satisfied with leaving these production facilities partially intact,” Kimball said.
...
Mikulak, the U.S. envoy to the chemical weapons watchdog organization, said Syria has been unwilling to discuss the destruction of facilities that formed part of its chemical arsenal with other members of the convention.

“Twelve chemical weapons production facilities declared by Syria remain structurally intact,” he said. “Why is that? The answer is Syria’s intransigence.” He charged that “the Assad regime has delayed the operation at every opportunity.”
...
“We need to see immediate and tangible signs that Syria intends to transport, in the very near future, the remaining chemicals from the site,” Mikulak said. “The international community cannot wait indefinitely for Syria action.”

That last statement definitely falls under the "things made less believable for having been said aloud" category. Also note those 'lingering questions about additional undeclared stockpiles' are non-trivial.

There's also a bunch of stuff about the apparently increasing use of chlorine, with Assad showing zero fucks given about international consequences, which leads to:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/10809186/West-fears-Iran-is-supplying-chlorine-bombs-to-Syria.html

quote:

Western security officials are investigating allegations that Iran supplied Chinese-made bombs filled with chlorine gas to the Syrian regime after satellite images emerged of a Syrian supply flight at Tehran’s main airport.

Iran is understood to have ordered 10,000 chlorine canisters from China that, according to reports, have been loaded on to flights to Syria.

Western security officials say the Assad regime has established a regular air freight route with Iran using Russian-built Ilyushin 76 Syrian military cargo aircraft. Each flight between Damascus and Mehrabad International Airport in Tehran can carry up to 40 tons of equipment, and the weapons are believed to include short-range missiles, automatic rifles and ammunition. Security officials are now trying to establish whether these flights have been used by Iran to provide the Assad regime with the chlorine bombs used against Syrian opposition fighters.

That would of course have been funded with all that new cash from loosened sanctions.

Naramyth
Jan 22, 2009

Australia cares about cunts. Including this one.

Courthouse posted:

Well the schoolgirls are christian, and the kidnappers are muslim, does that count?

sure they are christian but are they white

we only like our kind of christian

MRC48B
Apr 2, 2012

Apparently a team of commandos already got sent. Good luck to them.

Snowdens Secret
Dec 29, 2008
Someone got you a obnoxiously racist av.

MRC48B posted:

Apparently a team of commandos already got sent. Good luck to them.

quote:

“Obviously it’s a heartbreaking situation, outrageous situation,” President Barack Obama told ABC on Tuesday. “We’ve already sent in a team to Nigeria – they’ve accepted our help through a combination of military, law enforcement, and other agencies who are going in, trying to identify where in fact these girls might be and provide them help,” he added.
...
Psaki didn’t say how large the team will be, nor would she confirm if the Nigerian government has explicitly accepted the U.S. offer to help.

“I think [Kerry] came away from the call with an understanding that this is something we’d work with the Nigerians to implement,” she said.
...
“We are not considering at this point military resources,” Carney said, saying the military personnel being sent are to take on an advisory role for the Nigerian government.

We've already sent a team, and the Nigerians have accepted our help, but we don't know how big the team will be (future tense) and we can't say if they've accepted our help. Also we're not considering sending military resources except the military resources we're sending. There is amazingly almost nothing in this article that isn't doublespeak.

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


Pork Pro

Snowdens Secret posted:

We've already sent a team, and the Nigerians have accepted our help, but we don't know how big the team will be (future tense) and we can't say if they've accepted our help. Also we're not considering sending military resources except the military resources we're sending. There is amazingly almost nothing in this article that isn't doublespeak.

It's almost like misinformation is an important facet in counter terror operations

Snowdens Secret
Dec 29, 2008
Someone got you a obnoxiously racist av.
There's misinformation and then there's gibberish. I suspect it's bad writing, the president's statement was probably edited in as an update after the rest of the article was written, and the last bit is Carney just using his usual imprecision.

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

Taste the High Country

scroogle nmaps posted:

Except Benghazi. rip

Meh. Even then our response was less then enthusiastic. A few weeks of "THE THING IS BAD" on CNN, then right back into the usual news cycle.

Did we ever find out who was responsible?

Mortabis
Jul 8, 2010

I am stupid
Gonna guess it wasn't that guy with the youtube video.

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


Pork Pro

BigDave posted:



Did we ever find out who was responsible?

Probably someone who was mad at Goon Fleet

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Booblord Zagats posted:

Probably someone who was mad at Goon Fleet

Another reason for Congress to ban all videogames. :bahgawd:

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Intel5 posted:

Slav Death Erection would make for a sweet username.

I can't wait for Dimitri Dangerfield, would make a sweetass username/av combo.

USMC503
Jan 15, 2012

For satisfactory performance while under the effects of hostile enemy alcohol.

BigDave posted:

Meh. Even then our response was less then enthusiastic. A few weeks of "THE THING IS BAD" on CNN, then right back into the usual news cycle.

Did we ever find out who was responsible?

You should check the news :v

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


Pork Pro
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/05/08/dover-air-force-base-lockdown/8852129/

Looks like someone's shooting up Dover because as is AF tradition, they just can't let the Army keep something to themselves

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Booblord Zagats posted:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/05/08/dover-air-force-base-lockdown/8852129/

Looks like someone's shooting up Dover because as is AF tradition, they just can't let the Army keep something to themselves

tbh, we should just fold them back into the Army. Bring back the USAAF and then hold both services to a stricter fitness standard b/c push-ups at dawn will save America.

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


Pork Pro

Zeroisanumber posted:

tbh, we should just fold them back into the Army. Bring back the USAAF and then hold both services to a stricter fitness standard b/c push-ups at dawn will save America.

I'm a firm believer in rolling the Air Force back under the Army's CoC and putting the Marines back to being fully under the Navy's thumb

Mad Dragon
Feb 29, 2004

Booblord Zagats posted:

I'm a firm believer in rolling the Air Force back under the Army's CoC and putting the Marines back to being fully under the Navy's thumb

Fleet does the flyin', Mobile Infantry does the dyin'.

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

Mad Dragon posted:

Fleet does the flyin', Mobile Infantry does the dyin'.

Least you get flown to your death by a hot bald chick.

Bolow
Feb 27, 2007

EVA BRAUN BLOWJOBS posted:

Least you get flown to your death by a hot bald chick.

I'd be down for fighting bugs for 20 minutes with dizzy :pervert:

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

Booblord Zagats posted:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/05/08/dover-air-force-base-lockdown/8852129/

Looks like someone's shooting up Dover because as is AF tradition, they just can't let the Army keep something to themselves

As usual, perception does not match reality in the Air Force and hallucinations lead to pointless reactions.

Snowdens Secret
Dec 29, 2008
Someone got you a obnoxiously racist av.
I'm not sure if RIA Novosti should go here or the propaganda thread, but just in case:

http://en.ria.ru/military_news/20140507/189649212/OPINION-Russia-Could-Station-Missiles-in-Europe-in-Response-to.html

quote:

MOSCOW, May 7 (RIA Novosti) – Russia could deploy short-range Iskander missiles in the country’s westernmost Kaliningrad region if NATO decides to strengthen its military presence in Eastern Europe, Lt. Gen. Yevgeny Buzhinsky told RIA Novosti.

“Russia is a nuclear power,” he said. “If NATO becomes more active, we will deploy a division of Iskander missiles in Kaliningrad Region,” added Buzhinsky, who previously headed the department of international agreements in the Russian Defense Ministry.
...
Franz Klintsevich, Deputy Chairman of the State Duma Committee on Defense, told RIA Novosti that deployment of NATO infrastructure in Eastern Europe and in the Baltic States endangers these countries and Russia should diplomatically deliver this message to the leadership of these states.

“A serious object in the Lithuanian territory, any modern nuclear weapon – means Lithuania basically doesn’t exist anymore, and politicians should understand that, this is a serious issue,” Franz Klintsevich said.

I'm fairly sure that would be a treaty violation but like that's going to slow anyone down these days

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FIDEL CASHFLOW
Oct 13, 2009

Snowdens Secret posted:

I'm not sure if RIA Novosti should go here or the propaganda thread, but just in case:

http://en.ria.ru/military_news/20140507/189649212/OPINION-Russia-Could-Station-Missiles-in-Europe-in-Response-to.html


I'm fairly sure that would be a treaty violation but like that's going to slow anyone down these days

:circlefap:

the nuclear apocalypse is upon us

:circlefap:

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