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So you don't have an item, you're just a "Drag mom"? Because your role, it sounds possible, but obvious given Foo's flip.
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50 pounds of bread posted:Asiina isn't scum, derp was likely jailed by the town jailer.
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May 10, 2014 03:35
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kaschei posted:So you don't have an item, you're just a "Drag mom"? Because your role, it sounds possible, but obvious given Foo's flip. My flavor item is the crown, but I don't think those do anything.
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May 10, 2014 03:35
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kaschei posted:Did you copy a cop and cop asiina? ##unvote also how did you copy a jailer but not know who the jailer was?
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May 10, 2014 03:37
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Pictured is my jailing implement
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May 10, 2014 03:40
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Poque posted:Kaschei lying about the jail would make him the last scum but then he would've had to jail and kill in the same turn. must process. can asiina be scum? hrm I can though. I copied this ability night 1 and targeted myself, then jailed Asiina last night.
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May 10, 2014 04:00
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Oh yeah 50s stealing thing. 50 pounds of bread posted:I can though. I copied this ability night 1 and targeted myself, then jailed Asiina last night. How do you choose what to copy?
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May 10, 2014 04:04
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Poque posted:also how did you copy a jailer but not know who the jailer was? I am the copycat, it's random each night what I get.
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May 10, 2014 04:04
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Provided 1 scum remaining. Asiina, kaschei, derp and I are cleared as of last night. Bowmore is a potential godfather. Murmur is a potential rodeo gambit scum. Pecota is potential scum, and unless ixt cleared poque he is too. Pecota is probably the best lynch, bowmore seems like the best jail target, which leaves an obvious lynch for tomorrow.
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May 10, 2014 04:13
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Poque was not cleared, but seems the least likely at this time.
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May 10, 2014 04:18
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Why are you cleared?
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May 10, 2014 04:19
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I jailed Asiina and therefore didn't kill anyone.
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May 10, 2014 04:21
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Ah I see. This is all assuming a solo scum can't kill and take action the same turn though, but the jail claims make sense.
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May 10, 2014 04:25
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I'm pretty sure Pecota is the lynch here, but I would like to hear bowmores role first.
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May 10, 2014 04:52
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I'm a DR.
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May 10, 2014 04:59
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Or a Doc, however they say it now days
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May 10, 2014 05:00
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I was worried about that. I might be wrong about the jailer being town. Process of elimination still suggests Pecota is the most likely, but it seems entirely possible that scum can action and kill, which would include kaschei as a possible scum. Derp cleared me n1 by targeting yuming.
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May 10, 2014 05:29
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I just caught up - so assuming people are telling the truth, we have: Murmur - cop (targetted Ixt last night) Asiina - drag mom (targetted Poque last night) derp - tracker (targetted Poque last night) kaschei - jailer (targetted derp last night) 50 - copycat (targetted Asiina last night) Bowmore - doctor (? last night, investigated town by me N1) Poque - Pecota - bulletproof (?) Poque, have you said your role yet? Poque and Pecota, did you take any actions last night? Barring any changes I'm pretty happy with a Pecota lynch. ##vote Pecota
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May 10, 2014 05:43
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Just a mason with Ixt, no actions taken any night
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May 10, 2014 05:49
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Can I get some protection targets and rationales from bowmore and some rationales behind the jailings from kaschei? From a balance perspective it's really dumb to believe that town could easily have three nightly protections in a 12-person game (bowmore's doctor copied by 50 N1, bowmore's doc, kaschei's jail), how is nobody noticing how broken that would be? I smell a rat there.
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May 10, 2014 07:13
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Also I'm just BP (passive, explicitly told that I don't know if the shot's been used if I'm hit with a NK) so I've got no actions taken either night.
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May 10, 2014 07:15
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The dude I replaced doc'd 50 no idea why, I doc'd Murmur Twin last night for obvious reasons.
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May 10, 2014 07:30
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We've been tricked into a massclaim after all
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May 10, 2014 07:30
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Power of Pecota posted:Can I get some protection targets and rationales from bowmore and some rationales behind the jailings from kaschei? Well I have limited shots and the role I get is random. I got n1 drag mom, which I used to refresh the shot I used, and n2 was a jail. I am worried that bowmore is actually a godfather, but I think it's manageable with night actions. I think the correct line of play right now is to have kaschei jail bowmore, while derp and murmur both check poque. That way if poque is scum, he gets caught period. If bowmore is scum, there will be no kill. If murmur is scum and makes a kill, she has to claim poque is scum, if she abstains, bowmore is the lynch, poque is cleared, and kaschei jails murmur. If kaschei is scum, and kills, poque becomes clear, bowmore becomes clear, and murmur is the lynch, leaving kaschei as the lynch the next day. If he abstains, bowmore is the lynch, poque is cleared, leaving him to be forced to jail murmur, in which case he has to abstain again leaving murmur as the lynch, and kaschei goes down the next day. That line of action leaves no chance for a scum win. Everyone should go over my logic to see if I missed anything, but I'm pretty sure lynching you wins us the game right now.
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May 10, 2014 07:57
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kaschei posted:We've been tricked into a massclaim after all I think the mass claim solved the game.
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May 10, 2014 07:58
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I'll read over it a bit. Do you get to choose your target? Like you say "randomize" or whatever and pick a target for the same night? Or you're told what you got and then you can use it the same night?
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May 10, 2014 15:40
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I worry that we're focusing too much on night action stuff and not content and a weird role (or scum taking action and killing simultaneously, or scum + weird 3p remaining even if that's unlikely) would kill the lead we have. That said I wanted to target Pecota coming into this day so at least for today I like it.
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May 10, 2014 15:42
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hey good job figureing it out everyone. ##vote pecota
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May 10, 2014 16:57
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uranus posted:hey good job figureing it out everyone. ##vote pecota Between this and CBB mafia, I'm really disappointed that you reverted to "really lovely at mafia" derp. I hope you blindly follow the right people this game. Have you wondered about why scum would kill Ixt, who post-hammer bowmore was all like "Nyeah nyeah get him! He looks bad!" when we know that yuming rolecopped 50, who has a pretty scary power role?
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May 10, 2014 17:07
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kaschei posted:We've been tricked into a massclaim after all btw nice straight-up avoiding saying why you jailed who you jailed two posts after I asked.
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May 10, 2014 17:10
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I'll admit I haven't been giving this game my full attention. It's been a unexpectedly busy week, but I am happy following Poque since he's been right so far and 50s explanation makes sense to me. Assuming the game doesn't end tonight, does someone need/want an extra shot? ##vote Pecota
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May 10, 2014 17:16
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Jailing the claimed tracker in a game where there would be one scum left alive (like I said earlier, 4 scum would lead to a possible D2 LYLO) is literally like the worst waste of night action resources possible. Worse than jailing the cop without a flipped godfather. I don't buy that as a town jailing at all and there are too many protective roles claimed. Pet theory is that there's a SK who killed Ixt, a kill was blocked N1, and kaschei as the last scum used a jail instead of a kill to try and stall things. A doctor/jailer/bulletproof/role copier in the same game probably means more killing roles than a one-shot vig and the scum kill. bowmore investigated town and I doubt he'd entirely lie about being a doctor and 50 would have been bussing way too hard to be pulling a gambit.
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May 10, 2014 17:22
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MafiaTipz: Evaluate claims in conjunction with behavior. kaschei spent all day D2 voting me and jails derp, a claimed tracker who he only showed suspicion of for a really profoundly lovely reason that I called out at the time. (Go back and find it for bonus points!)
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May 10, 2014 17:34
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Power of Pecota posted:Jailing the claimed tracker in a game where there would be one scum left alive (like I said earlier, 4 scum would lead to a possible D2 LYLO) is literally like the worst waste of night action resources possible. Worse than jailing the cop without a flipped godfather. I don't buy that as a town jailing at all and there are too many protective roles claimed. Literally I want all of tomorrow to be people quoting this and voting kaschei. He's way better than that.
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May 10, 2014 17:39
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I can also give you guys a pretty good reason why 50's plan's not going to work, btw
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May 10, 2014 17:43
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Power of Pecota posted:I can also give you guys a pretty good reason why 50's plan's not going to work, btw I'd like to see it! It feels a little like you are scrambling, but you could be right! Poque, my plan takes into consideration the possibility that scum can kill and use abilities on the same night, and yes I get to chose my action after using copycat. I learn the ability I copy upon lynch.
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May 10, 2014 17:54
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50 pounds of bread posted:I'd like to see it! It feels a little like you are scrambling, but you could be right! No poo poo I'm scrambling, I'm at -1 and literally nobody's talked about anything I've done. It's like pure process of elimination bullshit. Withholding kills, duh. If there's a SK and the last scum's kaschei like I think it is, two withheld kills is basically a free doctor lynch, and all night actions are going to bring are an investigation on Poque (with no flipped godfather, so where does that get you?)
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May 10, 2014 18:00
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Someone besides me should do it because I'm -1 and expecting a kaschei hammer whenever he gets back in-thread, but just ask 8bux if scum can kill and perform a night action in one night. That shouldn't be left to speculation.
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May 10, 2014 18:01
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Power of Pecota posted:Withholding kills, duh. If there's a SK and the last scum's kaschei like I think it is, two withheld kills is basically a free doctor lynch, and all night actions are going to bring are an investigation on Poque (with no flipped godfather, so where does that get you?) I think an SK is worth contemplating, especially since the existence of one throws a wrench 50's plan. As does whatever blocked me N1, possibly. I'm currently trying to figure out how 50 comes out if he's SK and we follow his direction. As for why I tried to jail MT: I thought she was scum, mainly from her interactions with foo. As for why I jailed derp: I thought he was scum. Obviously I was wrong about him trying to get two docs lynched but he did try to swing the vote away from yuming for nonsensical reasons.
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I don't get why you think using a jail on someone you're suspicious of is a bad move, claimed tracker or not. If there had been no NK last night I would've felt pretty comfortable lynching uranus versus thinking he was the target. In any case, I knew from my N1 experience that blocked actions don't cost a "shot" so I wasn't worried about the long term effects too much if I were wrong. So jailing seemed like a good bet.
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