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I think Bell was working with the Observers leading to a delay of the plan.FlamingLiberal posted:Oh that's right. Although isn't this in the same continuity as when he tried to erase the universe? It should be. Bell escaped when Olivia, Peter, and Walter messed up his new universe plan.
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Invaders from the future are the sort of thing to make you team up with your old enemies.
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Apr 21, 2014 23:25
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Is Fringe still cool, guys?
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Apr 21, 2014 23:30
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Writer Cath posted:Is Fringe still cool, guys? Do Zeppelins still fly in universe B?
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Part of the reason I like Fringe is because, like Buffy, it's kind of like a live-action superhero comic.
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SpookyLizard posted:Invaders from the future are the sort of thing to make you team up with your old enemies.
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FlamingLiberal posted:I don't remember them ever explaining why Bell was suddenly there in amber. I don't remember what the explanation actually was but I do remember that his entire subplot for the season happened off-screen and was then awkwardly recounted by all the main cast just standing around in the lab.
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Well, that's the final episode done and dusted. I'm not even going to think about the multitude of paradoxes and stuff the plan there would've created, and instead, I'm just going to say that that was fun. Kinda disappointed the team didn't go a little more balls-out with the science: if they knew that they'd essentially be remaking history, would it not have made sense to fire Peter up with the Observer tech again? Anything to give them an edge, I would've thought. Maybe offer some of the rebels the opportunity to go porcupine man as well. Best moment of the episode though? Gene. That, and the thread title. Very cool, indeed, Walter.
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Yeah the lack of follow up on the 'Peter turning into an observer' thing was odd. A lot of threads on that show got dropped very fast. They never really continued the story arc they seemed to be setting up for the more human version of the Shapeshifters after they did the universe reset.
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Having thought about it more, I think my main disappointment in the finale was that it didn't feel like the odds were desperate enough. We were being told that this was the final battle against the Observers, but it never really felt like it. I was entertained, but I was never really on the edge of my seat. I've really spent more time thinking 'wouldn't it be cool if'. It was a good episode, but it didn't hit the buttons I wanted. Maybe that's more a fault with me. FlamingLiberal posted:Yeah the lack of follow up on the 'Peter turning into an observer' thing was odd. A lot of threads on that show got dropped very fast. They never really continued the story arc they seemed to be setting up for the more human version of the Shapeshifters after they did the universe reset. And when they did try and explain them, it was usually along the lines of 'oh yeah, this was a thing that we did, remember?' The William Bell thing springs to mind - the way they just casually assume he'd sold them out to the Observers bugged me. There was no fallout from that, no sign that he'd actually done anything. Just 'yeah, that guy's a dick, let's steal his hand' and on to the next plotline.
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Kaboom Dragoon posted:
The knew that he betrayed them, and thats why they ambered themselves. Observers where closing in on them, and it was due to Bell.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Yeah the lack of follow up on the 'Peter turning into an observer' thing was odd. A lot of threads on that show got dropped very fast. They never really continued the story arc they seemed to be setting up for the more human version of the Shapeshifters after they did the universe reset. It was pretty funny that they went to the trouble to humanize shapeshifters before having Peter go on his mass-killing spree of them that went nowhere. But nothing is going to top "this is the man who kills me" when it comes to dropped plotlines.
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Hey, is insane Bell still out there in the fixed timeline at the end? Without the observers he never would have been ambered.
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^^ Yes...of SCIENCE! posted:It was pretty funny that they went to the trouble to humanize shapeshifters before having Peter go on his mass-killing spree of them that went nowhere. They did sort of have that answered. Bell signs his name with an X, so it was Bell.
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That's dumb if true, since that whole episode took place before the universe reset and she gets shot by Bell in the new reality.
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FlamingLiberal posted:That's dumb if true, since that whole episode took place before the universe reset and she gets shot by Bell in the new reality. Cortexiphan is a hell of a drug.
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My impression of season five was that it was conceived as 22 episodes with a time skip in the middle, but when they only got a half season they went with the second half and filled in plots from what would have been the first in flashbacks.
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I'm working my way through the series, and I just finished White Tulip. God, I've never cried so hard at a TV show.
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Capsaicin posted:I'm working my way through the series, and I just finished White Tulip. God, I've never cried so hard at a TV show. Fringe (Walter, specifically) got me crying I think three times and tearing up countless times.
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So uh, season 3...alternate universe Astrid is autistic, right?
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Capsaicin posted:So uh, season 3...alternate universe Astrid is autistic, right? Yes
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Capsaicin posted:So uh, season 3...alternate universe Astrid is autistic, right? Apparently, Jasika Nicole based her portrayal on her real-life sister, so yeah, she is.
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There's the grandfather of all dropped plotlines: Agent Jessup
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HUGE SPACEKABLOOIE posted:There's the grandfather of all dropped plotlines: Agent Jessup Thank god it was, though. It was shaping up to be REALLY boring and lame. But yeah it never should have been there in the first place.
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HUGE SPACEKABLOOIE posted:There's the grandfather of all dropped plotlines: Agent Jessup "We're introducing her to suggest a possible religious aspect to The Pattern. Because we've temporarily forgotten this is a sci-fi show and not a poor man's Millennium."
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I just marathoned this show over the course of a month or two from start to finish. It was a fun show when it was a pseudo-X-Files, with weekly mysteries wrapped around a smaller meta-plot. As it got towards the end I almost completely lost interest but I have a hard time dropping a show I have committed to so I saw it through. The ending left more holes than I care to get into. It was probably one of the worst TV show endings I have ever seen. That being said a majority of the seasons were really good, but when they started focussing solely on the meta-plot is when it got boring for me. It did fill my X-file want pretty good. I always hated Olivia. Astrid and Walter ruled. Peter was ok. Gene was the best character of the show. September was cool. Fringe: "Because its cool (before the last couple seasons)!"
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ScienceAndMusic posted:I just marathoned this show over the course of a month or two from start to finish. It was a fun show when it was a pseudo-X-Files, with weekly mysteries wrapped around a smaller meta-plot. As it got towards the end I almost completely lost interest but I have a hard time dropping a show I have committed to so I saw it through. The ending left more holes than I care to get into. It was probably one of the worst TV show endings I have ever seen. I didn't think the ending was that bad but it still slays me that Olivia goes Super Saiyan and drains the power out of the entire city to just kind of shove a car a few feet and smash a dude.
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...of SCIENCE! posted:I didn't think the ending was that bad but it still slays me that Olivia goes Super Saiyan and drains the power out of the entire city to just kind of shove a car a few feet and smash a dude. Yeah that, like the guys can grab bullets out of the air but nope, a slow sliding van totally kills him. Furthermore I hated Olivia's hypocrisy. "No peter, you can't use observer tech, its too dangerous, we don't know what could happen. However I will now shoot my brain full of more cortexiphan than ever tried before which could very likely kill me."
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Is it wrong that I found Bell-Possessed Olivia more attractive than alternate Olivia
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Rough Lobster posted:Is it wrong that I found Bell-Possessed Olivia more attractive than alternate Olivia It's the voice, man. It's all the voice. ...of SCIENCE! posted:I didn't think the ending was that bad but it still slays me that Olivia goes Super Saiyan and drains the power out of the entire city to just kind of shove a car a few feet and smash a dude. Seriously, I was expecting an almighty bolt of lightning, smashing down like the fist of God Himself or something. It's like I said, the writers wanted us to believe this was for all the marbles, but at the end of the day, I didn't buy it.
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The Fringe finale also makes the mistake of suggesting a more awesome narrative than the show itself, a crime shared by the final episode of Lost. Who wouldn't want a season of Walter's adventures in the future with a bald, mute child?
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The last season is such a tease on so many levels. All I want is to see more wepaonized fringe events used for the good of mankind.
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Rough Lobster posted:Is it wrong that I found Bell-Possessed Olivia more attractive than alternate Olivia Not if its okay that I found alternate Olivia about a thousand times hotter than blonde Olivia. Seriously, that woman does not look good in a ponytail. I also finished the series, a few days ago...and kind of really hate the ending, the more I think about it, as well. I think I liked crazy Spock on a boat as the ending, better, even.
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ganthony posted:I also finished the series, a few days ago...and kind of really hate the ending, the more I think about it, as well. I think I liked crazy Spock on a boat as the ending, better, even. Really?? What didn't you like about it?
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A lot of what has already been mentioned. I know it had a piss-poor budget...but their final set-piece was shooting randomly into fog, and an entire city going dark for a car smash? Meh. I think there were some nice character scenes, especially the Peter/Walter and Walter/Astrid moments. Alot of it just comes down to personal preference, obviously. I don't like big reset buttons that completely erase a season's worth of growth for everyone but one character. I was irritated with Pacey getting erased from the timeline, earlier in the series, as well.
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ganthony posted:A lot of what has already been mentioned. I know it had a piss-poor budget...but their final set-piece was shooting randomly into fog, and an entire city going dark for a car smash? Meh. I think there were some nice character scenes, especially the Peter/Walter and Walter/Astrid moments. On the other hand, they didn't undo the universe changes after Peter's erasure from the timeline. 'Our' timeline, as we knew it, officially ceased to exist at the end of season 3, which was actually pretty ballsy. Thinking about it, did they ever really explain why Walter was considered an anomaly at the end of the season? That seemed to just come out of nowhere.
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If they explained it, I zoned out during some technobabble. I am sure they tried, but it didn't really sink in.
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Anyone else think Warehouse 13 is basically a campy, budget version of Fringe? It ends next week, I've been watching through it and it really strikes me as being very Fringe-esque. It even has the same kind of awful product placement for cars, but on the plus side they actually re-use some of the cool poo poo they find pretty often. It can be a bit rubbish sometimes, but I'm enjoying it on the whole.
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Tempo 119 posted:Anyone else think Warehouse 13 is basically a campy, budget version of Fringe? It ends next week, I've been watching through it and it really strikes me as being very Fringe-esque. It even has the same kind of awful product placement for cars, but on the plus side they actually re-use some of the cool poo poo they find pretty often. It can be a bit rubbish sometimes, but I'm enjoying it on the whole. No, that'd be Eureka.
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Eureka's good too but I never got any Fringe from it beyond the pseudoscience angle. W13 has a dour lady with a photographic memory, a guy who's tough but actually kind of a sap, a grumpy old man with a shady past and a techo-genius from a mental institution (yeah Walter's such a good character they had to split him between two actors). They form a ragtag secret agent team and fight supernatural crimes. Now check out this sweet car!
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