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Brocktoon posted:Interesting that you chose to quote that part, and not this one, which I think is much more interesting and pertinent. The whole thing is really well-written and a departure from Dan's usual bullet spray of words after something like this. I honestly grabbed the bit I did just to drive people to read it as I knew it's the bit a lot of people were looking to read anyway. That said, hopefully it helps a lot of people come to grips with the end of the show.
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May 12, 2014 19:30
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I just think it's funny how after season 2 when all the funding for the show was pulled, you went from these great outdoor shots with crowded sets to just six people sitting in an empty study room shot with an iPhone camera. With the way the shows budget budget and production values were, the cast members could just sit around a table in someone's basement and throw back one lines and basically keep the show going. Once in a while Joel McHale could look over at Allison Brie smolderingly, and then Pudi could shot a TV reference, and we wouldn't know the difference. Of course Yvette brown could just sit there slightly off camera because no one has any idea what to do with her character.
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May 12, 2014 19:49
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After season 3 I think they switched from a RED One to a Sony F55, it's not like they got cheaper cameras. I think the biggest thing is that they had to cram a bunch of sets onto a tiny soundstage (think how small Abed's apartment is, or how lovely sets like Shirley's house in season 4 were), and they lost talented directors and producers in the Russos that contributed a lot to the look of the first 2.5 seasons. Plus think about all the writers and cast that have left over the years.
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May 12, 2014 20:01
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Brocktoon posted:Interesting that you chose to quote that part, and not this one, which I think is much more interesting and pertinent. He does know they are doing him a 'favor' right, like, that's how this poo poo works, they have the resources and money and pull with talent and all and then you get access to them if they like what you do.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:He does know they are doing him a 'favor' right, like, that's how this poo poo works, they have the resources and money and pull with talent and all and then you get access to them if they like what you do. He's referring to the fans, not himself.
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May 12, 2014 20:24
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1st AD posted:After season 3 I think they switched from a RED One to a Sony F55, it's not like they got cheaper cameras. The show looks entirely different after S2. It's weird, typically TV shows get better looking over time, but Community is like a deconstruction of a show.
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May 12, 2014 21:31
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Jerk McJerkface posted:The show looks entirely different after S2. It's weird, typically TV shows get better looking over time, but Community is like a deconstruction of a show. It would be pretty interesting to see the show continue to degrade as the budget shrinks and more actors and writers leave. Community Season 10: 8 episodes of Shirley alone in a room with a desk.
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May 12, 2014 22:02
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The budget shrinking hurt the show, but losing the Russos probably hurt the show's visuals more than anything else. On any other show their departure might not have mattered, but when every other episode is trying to be some kind of film homage it helps to have really good directors on board. Like the Fincher episode this season looked awful visually and with more capable hands I think it could've looked a lot better. Looking back, I can't believe they snagged Justin Lin for the original paintball episode. That episode is probably THE defining moment in Community.
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May 12, 2014 22:13
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Breadallelogram posted:It would be pretty interesting to see the show continue to degrade as the budget shrinks and more actors and writers leave. Community Season 10: 8 episodes of Shirley alone in a room with a desk. The desk is voiced by Dan Harmon and Shirley can barely get the occasional c-story. I agree about the visuals. Season 1 of Community is the best looking sitcom ever. Season 3 and 4 look like a cheap multi-cam show. At least season 5 was an improvement, even if they were still stuck with cramped sets and zero location shoots.
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Breadallelogram posted:It would be pretty interesting to see the show continue to degrade as the budget shrinks and more actors and writers leave. Community Season 10: 8 episodes of Shirley alone in a room with a desk. Planet of the Apes already did that.
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Breadallelogram posted:It would be pretty interesting to see the show continue to degrade as the budget shrinks and more actors and writers leave. Community Season 10: 8 episodes of Shirley alone in a room with a desk. That's nice.
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May 12, 2014 22:37
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Doc Aquatic posted:That's nice. Queue laugh track
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May 12, 2014 22:38
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I really enjoyed this season up until the end, but this show used to feel so zeitgeisty and now it's just nostalgic. I'm sad that it's been canceled and disappointed that the ONE time they didn't give it a series finale, it ends up canceled, leaving me with less closure, but I guess it's OK. I can't imagine the show ever having that excited spirit again, and that's what I think people really loved about it. At least that is what *I* loved about it. If it gets another season somewhere else, I'll be happy, but I think Harmon is ready to move on and so are the other actors, sadly.
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May 15, 2014 03:25
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Joel McHale is replacing Craig Fergurson. So you know, if you were still holding out hope for Community, I think this is ganna be eating up most of his time now.
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Calico Heart posted:Joel McHale is replacing Craig Fergurson. So you know, if you were still holding out hope for Community, I think this is ganna be eating up most of his time now. I wonder if this also kills The Soup or if it'll be taken over by someone else.
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Delsaber posted:I wonder if this also kills The Soup or if it'll be taken over by someone else. The soup has had other hosts before. Joel is like the third or fourth host.
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Calico Heart posted:Joel McHale is replacing Craig Fergurson. So you know, if you were still holding out hope for Community, I think this is ganna be eating up most of his time now. I hope that Joel can get along with Geoff Peterson and Secretariat.
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Calico Heart posted:Joel McHale is replacing Craig Fergurson. So you know, if you were still holding out hope for Community, I think this is ganna be eating up most of his time now. No see, Allison Brie was vodka commercials and doing a supporting part on four or five episodes of Mad Men a year, therefore Community doesn't tie up any of the actors' time. He'll be able to do both. This is a pretty spectacular fit to me. Craig was one of the best late show hosts, shame he was so short lived. McHale on Late Late is more than enough compensation for another Season 5-level season, for me.
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May 15, 2014 21:13
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XboxPants posted:No see, Allison Brie was vodka commercials and doing a supporting part on four or five episodes of Mad Men a year, therefore Community doesn't tie up any of the actors' time. He'll be able to do both. I also love the logic that it doesn't tie up anyone's time when one of the core cast specifically left the show this season because it was tying up all of his time. Plus John Oliver being only an occasional guest star and absent from most of the series.
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May 15, 2014 21:17
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Guy A. Person posted:I also love the logic that it doesn't tie up anyone's time when one of the core cast specifically left the show this season because it was tying up all of his time. Oh come on its not like being on the late show means he will be writing and coordinating a show 5 days a weeks. You have plenty of time to do other acting jobs. Its not like you need to see your family or do anything else.
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May 15, 2014 21:20
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Holy poo poo the latest Harmontown is hilarious. I actually want to take the long way home today.
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The real loss here is definitely The Soup, which honestly is probably worse than crushing the small amount of hope that still remains of a possible Season 6. Joel is perfect on that show. It should also be noted that it's still unofficial, even if it seems pretty obvious that it's gonna happen.
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XboxPants posted:No see, Allison Brie was vodka commercials and doing a supporting part on four or five episodes of Mad Men a year, therefore Community doesn't tie up any of the actors' time. He'll be able to do both. Days later and you're still fighting the good fight despite being objectively wrong. If nothing else I commend your commitment.
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Guy A. Person posted:I also love the logic that it doesn't tie up anyone's time when one of the core cast specifically left the show this season because it was tying up all of his time. The cast also commented a lot on the DVDs about how long their shooting days were. If you're on a sitcom set for 12 to 16 hours at a stretch, it's kind of hard to do much else.
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Jummy posted:Days later and you're still fighting the good fight despite being objectively wrong. If nothing else I commend your commitment. They obviously had enough time to do some other things. Supporting roles, a movie here and there. But just because it doesn't take up 100% of their time, doesn't it takes up 0% of their time. It's not a black & white scenario here. An actor doing one full-time TV show commitment doesn't really have time to do a second one. Now they have enough time to enter another full-time commitment and big surprise, we're already hearing about McHale doing so.
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XboxPants posted:They obviously had enough time to do some other things. Supporting roles, a movie here and there. But just because it doesn't take up 100% of their time, doesn't it takes up 0% of their time. It's not a black & white scenario here. An actor doing one full-time TV show commitment doesn't really have time to do a second one. Now they have enough time to enter another full-time commitment and big surprise, we're already hearing about McHale doing so. There's also no guarantee of any other offers. So like I said, I'm happy that people I enjoyed watching were getting regularly paid. Also sure, McHale already has another job and that's awesome, someone mentioned Gillian Jacobs getting more comedy roles and I think that's fairly likely, Alison Brie has been working on other projects during the show and I assume will continue to after. Those three people have something fairly useful in common. What about Yvette Nichole Brown? Danny Pudi? There's a movie coming out called Million Dollar Arm about Indian guys getting a shot to pitch in baseball. What's the poster? Jon Hamm. I guess I just don't see the harm in supporting the work these people are actually doing rather than hypothetical work that may never exist.
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Jummy posted:There's also no guarantee of any other offers. So like I said, I'm happy that people I enjoyed watching were getting regularly paid. Also sure, McHale already has another job and that's awesome, someone mentioned Gillian Jacobs getting more comedy roles and I think that's fairly likely, Alison Brie has been working on other projects during the show and I assume will continue to after. Those three people have something fairly useful in common. What about Yvette Nichole Brown? Danny Pudi? There's a movie coming out called Million Dollar Arm about Indian guys getting a shot to pitch in baseball. What's the poster? Jon Hamm. I guess I just don't see the harm in supporting the work these people are actually doing rather than hypothetical work that may never exist. Yeah, that's all a very good point, no argument there. It would be a real shame if Pudi or Glover just fade away into obscurity. Hell, same with Jim Rash or Alison Brie or Gillian Jacobs, there's no guarantee in this business. McHale & Oliver are pretty much the only ones I'm not worried about.
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YNB is way too talented to not land a sitcom gig somewhere.
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XboxPants posted:Yeah, that's all a very good point, no argument there. It would be a real shame if Pudi or Glover just fade away into obscurity. Hell, same with Jim Rash or Alison Brie or Gillian Jacobs, there's no guarantee in this business. McHale & Oliver are pretty much the only ones I'm not worried about. I wouldn't be too worried about Academy Award-winner Jim Rash.
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MrAristocrates posted:YNB is way too talented to not land a sitcom gig somewhere. You'd think so, but look at Oscar winner Lupita Nyong'o. Maybe it will change soon but at this point after 12 Years A Slave she has had a role in Non-Stop apparently (anyone have an idea of how big?) and then she's listed for two pre-production movies. One of those is only rumored and the other she is doing a voice.
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XboxPants posted:An actor doing one full-time TV show commitment doesn't really have time to do a second one. Yeah, like Joel Mchale
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Deadline has an update:Deadline.com posted:Cult NBC comedy Community has not been shopped, but there has been incoming interest and, while there initially there was little intention on part of the producers to continue the series elsewhere, that is now considered a possibility. Huh. I really thought this show was dead. It could just be some tire-kicking, though.
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Deadline is a sony marketing arm so I would put little to no stock in any article that could be conceivably part of Sonys spin team
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E PLURIBUS ANUS posted:Deadline is a sony marketing arm so I would put little to no stock in any article that could be conceivably part of Sonys spin team That being said, what you're saying would actually be quite illegal if it was well and truly completely made up.
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LividLiquid posted:That being said, what you're saying would actually be quite illegal if it was well and truly completely made up.
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MrAristocrates posted:YNB is way too talented to not land a sitcom gig somewhere. She's a character actor in a ton of other shows. If you watch older sitcoms (like in the 2000's) she turns up a lot.
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CBS just denied the McHale rumors.
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Jerk McJerkface posted:She's a character actor in a ton of other shows. If you watch older sitcoms (like in the 2000's) she turns up a lot. Every sitcom needs a sassy black secretary.
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