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No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!

Binary Logic posted:

And after seeing the first 2 episodes, he's lost his sense of humour. Don't know if I should even bother continuing to watch this season.
He and Seinfeld both use observational humour but Louis' shtick of "Oh look at me, I'm pathetic and hopeless" is tired and kind of odd given his recent successful tours and stand-up career.
It often makes me sad and feeling sorry for them when people who make their living from their public persona can't even be bothered to have a healthy diet and get in some exercise.
Does anyone feel sorry for Louie? There are a few scenes, like the car-crushing, the garbagemen, and Liz's death which imply that the world is out to get him (which I don't like, and was one of the things about S3 I wasn't into), but normally he's a pretty active participant in his issues. I don't think the show's meant to imply that his issues are outside of his control (especially his weight), because where it actually matters to him, like with his kids, he's very competent.

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ChairMaster
Aug 22, 2009

by R. Guyovich
Man what are you even talking about. None of those scenes had anything to do with the world being out to get Louie. They're just friggin jokes, dude. The first two were funny surreal scenes, one of which happens to like everybody who lives in a big city every week. Liz's death had nothing to do with Louie really, it was just a crazy fuckin terrifying thing that happened to him that got him to get his rear end out of the house and go do something interesting with his life for once.

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
UNGH LET ME LICK THOSE BOOTS DADDY HULU ;-* ;-* ;-* YES YES GIVE ME ALL THE CORPORATE CUMMIES :shepspends: :shepspends: :shepspends: ADBLOCK USERS DESERVE THE DEATH PENALTY, DON'T THEY DADDY?
WHEN THE RICH GET RICHER I GET HORNIER :a2m::a2m::a2m::a2m:

Now that Community is dead, I nominate Louie to be the reigning "best show with worst thread" champ. Do I have a second?

beanieson
Sep 25, 2008

I had the opportunity to change literally anything about the world and I used it to get a new av

regulargonzalez posted:

Now that Community is dead, I nominate Louie to be the reigning "best show with worst thread" champ. Do I have a second?

GoT thread has that title... Louie doesn't have nearly enough rape chat or debate on what is/isn't a spoiler

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!

regulargonzalez posted:

Now that Community is dead, I nominate Louie to be the reigning "best show with worst thread" champ. Do I have a second?
If morons like you keep posting this garbage, yeah, it's inevitable. Glad you were bold enough to go through with this post after your ninja edit yesterday.

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
UNGH LET ME LICK THOSE BOOTS DADDY HULU ;-* ;-* ;-* YES YES GIVE ME ALL THE CORPORATE CUMMIES :shepspends: :shepspends: :shepspends: ADBLOCK USERS DESERVE THE DEATH PENALTY, DON'T THEY DADDY?
WHEN THE RICH GET RICHER I GET HORNIER :a2m::a2m::a2m::a2m:

No Wave posted:

If morons like you keep posting this garbage, yeah, it's inevitable. Glad you were bold enough to go through with this post after your ninja edit yesterday.

And the motion carries.

Sub Rosa
Jun 9, 2010




The Hannibal thread has to get an honorable mention.

JayMax
Jun 14, 2007

Hard-nosed gentleman

No Wave posted:

Does anyone feel sorry for Louie? There are a few scenes, like the car-crushing, the garbagemen, and Liz's death which imply that the world is out to get him (which I don't like, and was one of the things about S3 I wasn't into), but normally he's a pretty active participant in his issues. I don't think the show's meant to imply that his issues are outside of his control (especially his weight), because where it actually matters to him, like with his kids, he's very competent.

It's not so much that the world is out to get him, it's more Louie's acceptance of it that's interesting to me.

Gianthogweed
Jun 3, 2004

"And then I see the disinfectant...where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that. Uhh, by injection inside..." - a Very Stable Genius.

Darko posted:

From my experiences, and what I've seen in seeing the inner workings of dating sites and stats and such:

Men typically have these kinds of categories:

- not interested in any way
- friend but not sexually attracted
- friend and would have sex with
- would have sex with, but wouldn't really want to be friends with
- would have sex with and date
- would have sex with and would marry/be long term with


Maybe I'm in the minority, but I don't understand why any guy would want to even try to gently caress someone they're not attracted to. If he/she doesn't get your penis hard, then it makes loving someone kind of difficult and can lead to all sorts of embarrassing situations. For women it's different, I guess, but for men there pretty much has to be a physical attraction if you want to get an erection, unless you're taking viagra or you have a really good imagination. But wouldn't just jerking off be an easier alternative if that's the case? At least you don't have to worry about hurting anyone's feelings.

Tofu Injection
Feb 10, 2006

No need to panic.
Are you sexually attracted to your hand? Do you still get an erection when you have sex with your hand? Its kind of like that.

Tofu Injection fucked around with this message at 19:02 on May 17, 2014

Gianthogweed
Jun 3, 2004

"And then I see the disinfectant...where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that. Uhh, by injection inside..." - a Very Stable Genius.

Tofu Injection posted:

Are you sexually attracted to your hand? Do you still get an erection when you have sex with your hand? Its kind of like that.

Yeah, but the different is that jerking off doesn't have all the baggage and consequences that comes with having sex with a real person that you're really not attracted to. Plus, if the person is gross, I don't think I'd be able to get it up no matter how good my imagination is.

Frostwerks
Sep 24, 2007

by Lowtax

SoupyTwist posted:

Jim Norton(?) calls her gross.



Did Louie's whole interaction with the elevator remind anyone else of his bit about helping some old woman in LaGuardia?

Jim Norton shouldn't be calling anyone gross.

Gianthogweed
Jun 3, 2004

"And then I see the disinfectant...where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that. Uhh, by injection inside..." - a Very Stable Genius.

Frostwerks posted:

Jim Norton shouldn't be calling anyone gross.

Is it just me or does Jim Norton look different. Especially in the poker table scene, there was something off about him. Maybe he's just getting older, or maybe he's working out and has bulked up. But he doesn't look like the same old fat little bald boy.

Darko
Dec 23, 2004

Gianthogweed posted:

Yeah, but the different is that jerking off doesn't have all the baggage and consequences that comes with having sex with a real person that you're really not attracted to. Plus, if the person is gross, I don't think I'd be able to get it up no matter how good my imagination is.

Gross is not the same as not attracted to. Real people often don't have baggage if you approach things maturely.

Sex changes gradually in scope and importance as people age. There are variations based on experience, issues, etc., but shows like Seinfeld, Louie, and Curb are semi accurate when it comes to those things - sometimes you have sex with someone just because you just feel like having sex with someone. They don't make a big deal about it, you don't, it's just a one night excursion or a fling. A lot of Louie episodes have he or the lady in question doing just that.

Kevyn
Mar 5, 2003

I just want to smile. Just once. I'd like to just, one time, go to Disney World and smile like the other boys and girls.

Gianthogweed posted:

Is it just me or does Jim Norton look different. Especially in the poker table scene, there was something off about him. Maybe he's just getting older, or maybe he's working out and has bulked up. But he doesn't look like the same old fat little bald boy.

Jim Norton is aging like an Asian woman. He looked 25 forever, and suddenly overnight he looks 100.

Gianthogweed
Jun 3, 2004

"And then I see the disinfectant...where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that. Uhh, by injection inside..." - a Very Stable Genius.

Darko posted:

Gross is not the same as not attracted to. Real people often don't have baggage if you approach things maturely.

Sex changes gradually in scope and importance as people age. There are variations based on experience, issues, etc., but shows like Seinfeld, Louie, and Curb are semi accurate when it comes to those things - sometimes you have sex with someone just because you just feel like having sex with someone. They don't make a big deal about it, you don't, it's just a one night excursion or a fling. A lot of Louie episodes have he or the lady in question doing just that.

But how can you have sex with someone if you can't get it up? You don't need to have a erection to jerk off, but you kind of need one if you want to have sex with someone. This is the main reason why guys are generally shallower than girls. A physical attraction is sort of a requirement for me at least. That's not to say that someone can't grow on me after awhile and I can start to find them more attractive as I get to know them. But there needs to be at least some sort of initial attraction for that to happen. The reverse is also true. I've dated girls that I found very attractive at first, but they became less attractive to me as I got to know them.

Breadallelogram
Oct 9, 2012


Gianthogweed posted:

You don't need to have a erection to jerk off

:crossarms:

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
I heard there's this thing you can inject into your dick to make ot hard, you should totally do it and then have sex with some fat chicks. It's only fair to do your duty, what with all the other male privileges.

Gianthogweed
Jun 3, 2004

"And then I see the disinfectant...where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that. Uhh, by injection inside..." - a Very Stable Genius.

I've mastered the art.

Irish Joe
Jul 23, 2007

by Lowtax

Gianthogweed posted:

A physical attraction is sort of a requirement for me at least.

Have you even had sex with a woman?

Gianthogweed
Jun 3, 2004

"And then I see the disinfectant...where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that. Uhh, by injection inside..." - a Very Stable Genius.

Irish Joe posted:

Have you even had sex with a woman?

Have you?

Irish Joe
Jul 23, 2007

by Lowtax

I rest my case.

...of SCIENCE!
Apr 26, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

Binary Logic posted:

And after seeing the first 2 episodes, he's lost his sense of humour. Don't know if I should even bother continuing to watch this season.
He and Seinfeld both use observational humour but Louis' shtick of "Oh look at me, I'm pathetic and hopeless" is tired and kind of odd given his recent successful tours and stand-up career.
It often makes me sad and feeling sorry for them when people who make their living from their public persona can't even be bothered to have a healthy diet and get in some exercise.

Yeah! I mean, look at what getting in shape did for Wayne Knight's career!

ChesterJT
Dec 28, 2003

Mounty Pumper's Flying Circus

...of SCIENCE! posted:

Yeah! I mean, look at what getting in shape did for Wayne Knight's career!

We all certainly remember that prolific post-Seinfeld/pre-weight loss portion of Wayne Knight's career.

Binary Logic
Dec 28, 2000

Fun Shoe

...of SCIENCE! posted:

Yeah! I mean, look at what getting in shape did for Wayne Knight's career!
According to imdb.com he's getting regular tv work, which is not bad for a guy approaching 60. Was that your point?

So here's my new theory: just as there is fiction, tv shows, in which the protagonist is an anti-hero, Louis has developed the character of an anti-comic or anti-comedian.
While the stand-up shtick of 'you know what's weird about people...?' is pretty standard stuff, the character in the show isn't funny at all but awkward, desperate and hard to sympathize with. An anti-comic.

Jake Armitage
Dec 11, 2004

+69 Pimp
He was on Howard a while ago and flat out said he just doesn't give a poo poo what he looks like, and he reluctantly admitted that being fat is funny, especially when he gets naked. He knows being gross is a gag that never gets old. But honestly except for health reasons I don't know what would motivate him not to be sloppy. He spends half his time as a full-time and very dedicated dad, and the other half working his rear end off doing standup tours, DVDs, a tv show and occasional film work. I doubt he really has much time to chase tail. Which may explain why his dramatization of dating in your 40s is so completely pathetic, bizarre and honestly flat out wrong.

At the same time, though, in his last comedy special, he had a bit about how completely easy it is to meet and date women in your 40s no matter how you look, and how he wants to tell ugly young guys to just wait it out, which is another reason why I said that whole fat chick = fat guy equivalence interpretation just doesn't ring true. He knows its not true. I think he is somehow trying to appeal to a huge part of his fan base (the "forever alone" Reddit neckbeard). It just always falls flat for me.

Binary Logic posted:

the character in the show isn't funny at all but awkward, desperate and hard to sympathize with. An anti-comic.

I think its mostly just about keeping the character relatable. Like on Curb Your Enthusiasm, if the show was about the real Larry David, it would be a bunch of people sucking his dick all day long. He has to shape the character into a version of him that doesn't come with all the perks to stay relatable. Also on that Howard Stern show he was talking about how he came to within an inch of going out with Gwenneth Paltrow. That's something a guy like Louis CK just doesn't experience without being Louis CK. The TV Louis CK has to be the kind of guy that gets rejected by single moms and waitresses.

VVVV And? He was still a shlubby ginger and she was hollywood royalty. He was also a writer for Conan which made all the difference.

Jake Armitage fucked around with this message at 02:13 on May 20, 2014

poirot818
Jun 1, 2011

Jake Armitage posted:

Also on that Howard Stern show he was talking about how he came to within an inch of going out with Gwenneth Paltrow. That's something a guy like Louis CK just doesn't experience without being Louis CK.

That was in the early 90s when both of them were in their 20s.

hcreight
Mar 19, 2007

My name is Oliver Queen...
Jane owns. You call that school out on their Columbus bullshit. :allears:

surf rock
Aug 12, 2007

We need more women in STEM, and by that, I mean skateboarding, television, esports, and magic.

hcreight posted:

Jane owns. You call that school out on their Columbus bullshit. :allears:

The child actress playing Jane is really, really good.

hughesta
Jun 12, 2012

i know its super duper kooper
cool like up the bitches snitches
Janet this is some Grade A bullshit

hcreight
Mar 19, 2007

My name is Oliver Queen...
Yessssss more of the Charles Grodin doctor character in the 2nd episode.

surf rock
Aug 12, 2007

We need more women in STEM, and by that, I mean skateboarding, television, esports, and magic.
Wait, that preview (when he took a baseball bat to the piano) before the first episode wasn't actually from the episode? Huh, has he done that with previous previews, as well?

Edit: Nevermind, I didn't think that the show would continue this storyline for more than an episode.

surf rock fucked around with this message at 03:44 on May 20, 2014

Automata 10 Pack
Jun 21, 2007

Ten games published by Automata, on one cassette
Louie's facial expressions during that whole hairdryer segment was great.

hcreight
Mar 19, 2007

My name is Oliver Queen...
hahaha What the gently caress Louie.

foxatee
Feb 27, 2010

That foxatee is always making a Piggles out of herself.
This is amazing. :stare:

Fancy Hat!
Dec 5, 2003

In spite of how he's dressed, he ain't nobody's fool.
That whole violin sequence was surreal and kind of beautiful.

Automata 10 Pack
Jun 21, 2007

Ten games published by Automata, on one cassette
Wow, in the previous seasons they had Jane randomly speaking Hungarian and playing professional level violin just as some random or surreal gag. I wonder if it was all leading up to this?

hcreight
Mar 19, 2007

My name is Oliver Queen...
There's really a more concerted effort to give the show continuity than there's been in the previous seasons.

Fancy Hat!
Dec 5, 2003

In spite of how he's dressed, he ain't nobody's fool.
This whole scene is the punch line to this entire hour. Just randomly blurting it out to this poor man.

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Automata 10 Pack
Jun 21, 2007

Ten games published by Automata, on one cassette

hcreight posted:

There's really a more concerted effort to give the show continuity than there's been in the previous seasons.
I was going to say. It seems like it's taking bits of the previous season and trying to weave them in a way that gives the show actual continuity and feel a bit realer.

Which is odd, because it not having continuity was one of the things Louis C.K. really liked talking about.

edit: Also that doctor rules, holy poo poo.

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