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agarjogger posted:Wait, so per Melissandre's scene browsing her bullshit-potions, how fake is magic? There was nothing fake about the smoke demon who got Renly, I suppose. And Beric definitely took a broadsword to the shoulder. If not for the existence of the Wall, I'd forget that magic was ever a big deal in Westeros. I think the potions and stuff are tricks that Mel can use to convince people of the power of the Lord of Light without having to pop out a Shadow Baby everytime someone has some doubts.
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New Mountain was in that Vice documentary about Icelandic strongmen and was the only guy in the whole film that needed subtitles. I'm having fun playing the "how few lines of dialogue can they get away with" game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8A7woRoVwyM#t=753
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agarjogger posted:Wait, so per Melissandre's scene browsing her bullshit-potions, how fake is magic? There was nothing fake about the smoke demon who got Renly, I suppose. And Beric definitely took a broadsword to the shoulder. If not for the existence of the Wall, I'd forget that magic was ever a big deal in Westeros. I'd bet her drinking the poison was a parlor trick.
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Legerdemain posted:New Mountain was in that Vice documentary about Icelandic strongmen and was the only guy in the whole film that needed subtitles. I'm having fun playing the "how few lines of dialogue can they get away with" game.
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kiimo posted:I'd bet her drinking the poison was a parlor trick. My faith would be unshaken, in that event. I think a lot of us are LoL converts since that's the only faction that wants to get the gently caress up North and fight them some white walkers. Even the Night's Watch is not unanimous on that.
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I dunno. I don't think people are giving Gregor3 enough of a chance. Gregor1 was introduced by losing a joust and then cutting a loving horse's head right off in rage. Gregor3 got introduced by casually taking on some redshirt peasants. I wouldn't judge him on how good his rage-face is until we see him in real action.
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:I think the season two guy was there for like two seconds of non-speaking part? Ian Whyte sounded like Christopher Lee. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90iij8mX_xA I thought it was kind of a cool voice for the Mountain.
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The Insect Court posted:Gibson's no Nabokov, but he's a vastly superior prose stylist to GRRM. GRRM's gift is writing tightly plotted(at least by comparison to what's typical for the genre) fantasy that departs from the stale tropes of fantasy and which maintains a sort of soap opera feel, which makes sense given his time as a screenwriter. His characters aren't cardboard cut-outs, which is more than most genre authors can manage, but they're not very psychologically nuanced portraits nor is the dialogue particularly well-written. When GoT falters it's when the unity of action dissipates, which is why all the Yunkai stuff is so dull. Cut all the Dany stuff completely and the show still works. regulargonzalez posted:If you think Robert Anton Wilson and William Gibson write better prose than GRRM ... well I dunno what to tell you. You have unique tastes, I guess. If anyone deserves the backhanded compliment of "oh he's a good storyteller but is bad at the writing thing" it's William Gibson. Gibson gets a free ride a lot of the time because he's the only genre writer (apart from maybe Phillip K. Dick) who is seen to actually aspire to a more literary/middlebrow prosody. Whether or not he actually accomplishes anything to that aspiration is in the eye of the beholder, I suppose (I think he's okay, and so does Fred Jameson, which has to count for something). I would kill for a genre writer who is as good a prose stylist as somebody like Nabokov, tbh, but I doubt we'll see one for a long time. Just rewatching season one, and I'm amazed at how much better all the accents are. Tyrion and Jaime's were pretty terrible in the first season. I know it's an old conversation from four years ago but the action direction for the swordplay has definitely got a lot better in the last two seasons. Jaime's sparring sessions with Bronn were great. Looking forward to the trial by combat.
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poirot818 posted:Ian Whyte sounded like Christopher Lee. I'd forgotten how much I loved the Tywin / Arya interaction in that season. It's actually a great counter-example to the argument that new plotlines written just for the show are bad; my understanding is that Arya never met Tywin at Harrenhal, and that whole plot was new. You might not have liked the Mutineers arc this season, but Charles Dance and Maisie Williams were an awesome pairing that I'm thrilled we got to see.
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agarjogger posted:Wait, so per Melissandre's scene browsing her bullshit-potions, how fake is magic? There was nothing fake about the smoke demon who got Renly, I suppose. And Beric definitely took a broadsword to the shoulder. If not for the existence of the Wall, I'd forget that magic was ever a big deal in Westeros. The one in particular that stood out to me was her mention of how she can throw something in the fire to make it look like huge bursts of flames pop out and "take" the person that is burning. We saw it earlier this season and Stannis's wife even comments, elated, that the "Lord of Light has taken them!" One look on her face when she found out that particular trick was bullshit makes me think it could be wrong thing to let a crazy true believer down. Bobo the Red posted:I don't like Cat because her dying act was to murder an innocent woman. Sorry if that's "goony". You know that scene in Saving Private Ryan where after seeing their friends get murdered, they execute the surrendering German Soldiers due to emotions and human instinct? Well she just saw her whole family murdered including her last son, by the people who killed her husband, and her whole HOUSE was going down in flames with them and all she could do was take a hostage that was literally worthless. What I'm saying is I could not blame anyone, anyone at all, even in the real world for making one desperate last act in a combination of grief, rage, and wanting to hurt the people who hurt you and your family so much, even if it wasn't something that even she would have done more clear headed. I guess I'm trying to say I don't get why people hate Cat over that. I get it, and I certainly can say it was clearly a wrong thing to do, but like I said.. in that situation I think a lot of people would react the same way. Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 02:41 on May 21, 2014 |
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This is loving amazing and should be a part of next episode's OP! ED: Just caught "The Pirate Bay presents" which makes it even more hilarious as a double-edged joke. ED: Stupid SWYPE. Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 02:50 on May 21, 2014 |
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Gregor1 was perfect. It really is a shame he couldn't hang in there. Gregor2 was definitely not going to be able to go long term. Thought I thought his tall skinniness was kind of creepy and unique. Since those scenes were apparently not in the books (according to a poster on this page) Gregor2 should have just been a tall, creepy, cool Lannister soldier and not The Mountain. Gregor3 looks like Will Sasso. And it really irked me how bad his intro scene was. Everything about it sucked but the bright rear end lighting, the shaved chest and the awkward upward camera angle didn't do anything for him in terms of character. That upward camera angle, ugh; that angle is the only angle that can make him actually look *shorter* other than birds eye view. gently caress sake.
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olin posted:So what happens to Tyrion if his champion in the trial by combat dies in the battle? Does the Mountain just immediately go over and chop his head off or something? For some reason I can only picture him being thrown into the air and hit like a baseball with that Cersei-sized sword. That is literally the biggest and smallest actor on the show, so I do hope they at least get a few scenes that don't involve Tyrion dying, in particular if Tyrion is still willing to smack talk the guy that's the size of a 40k Space Marine.
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qxx posted:Gregor3 looks like Will Sasso. I kept waiting for him to look directly into the camera and say, "I know who de winner is! I know!"
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Blazing Ownager posted:This is loving amazing and should be apart of next episode's OP! A part of, actually. If you'd said "apart from" you would mean the opposite of what you were intending to say.
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May 21, 2014 02:49
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Looking up images of new Gregor he has a few lying around that make him look meaner than he did on the show. I think the way his beard is cut makes his face look more babyish.
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poirot818 posted:Ian Whyte sounded like Christopher Lee. Tywin's armor looks amazing.
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GorfZaplen posted:I don't see why some of those things couldn't also happen in episode 8. It's not like the fight is going to last the entire hour. Dear god I wish. I wouldn't even mind if it turned into a Dragon Ball Z episode.
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Blazing Ownager posted:The one in particular that stood out to me was her mention of how she can throw something in the fire to make it look like huge bursts of flames pop out and "take" the person that is burning. We saw it earlier this season and Stannis's wife even comments, elated, that the "Lord of Light has taken them!" Walder Frey coldly sacrificed his wife while drinking wine. Caitlin killed her in a moment of extreme psychological distress. The hate for Caitlin for that is very weird.
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Lumpy the Cook posted:What the gently caress. You have a problem with it yet you quote the whole thing over two posts? You loving idiot.
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TunaSled posted:You have a problem with it yet you quote the whole thing over two posts? You loving idiot. I think we all realize that the OP being 80,000 words of info you can get more accurately and quickly from the Game of Thrones Wikia (spoiler free!) is a running joke.
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:I think we all realize that the OP being 80,000 words of info you can get more accurately and quickly from the Game of Thrones Wikia (spoiler free!) is a running joke. But the perfect way to protest scrolling past it is to make everyone scroll past it again? Just as bad as the OP you pretend to hate.
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I really gotta give props for the line "Takes care of the place while Littlefinger is away."
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While we're taking about OPs, we should probably put the video of Tyrion's trial-by-combat in the Vale in there so peeps can be reminded of the etiquette.
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I gathered from the whole Melisandre scene that she wants to use Shireen to make another shadow babby? That just might be the straw that breaks Davos' back.
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She gonna phone up Thoros and get him to put a child in a 11 year old? That's not how I read it.
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No More Heroes posted:I gathered from the whole Melisandre scene that she wants to use Shireen to make another shadow babby? That just might be the straw that breaks Davos' back. Well, the accepted method for getting a shadow baby is beyond Shireen's reach. I think she's gonna do to her what she wanted to do to Gendry. Kill him in some likely firey way for some unknown gain (maybe shadows, maybe fire)
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TunaSled posted:But the perfect way to protest scrolling past it is to make everyone scroll past it again? Just as bad as the OP you pretend to hate. You are being trolled, hth
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:You are being trolled, hth Thanks. Let's talk about prose
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marktheando posted:I don't know about in Game of Thrones, but in real medieval times they would handicap the better fighter to make it a fair fight. As seen in this picture of a man having to stand in a hole to fight a woman- But the woman is forced to fight topless and has to use one hand to cover her boobs, that's hardly fair.
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pigdog posted:But the woman is forced to fight topless and has to use one hand to cover her boobs, that's hardly fair. The guy in the hole is holding his wang, seems fair to me
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MeLKoR posted:English is my second language and I haven't read Discworld but I found nothing particularly hard to read in ASoIaF. It's kindergarten english compared to, say, China Mieville for example (who is a much better writer incidentally). The 2/3rds of Perdido Street Station that I managed to get through were atrocious.
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Legerdemain posted:New Mountain was in that Vice documentary about Icelandic strongmen and was the only guy in the whole film that needed subtitles. I'm having fun playing the "how few lines of dialogue can they get away with" game. The bad guy in No Country for Old Men couldn't even speak english when he did the roll. All they need is someone to make sure they've got someone who speaks a common language to teach him how to say each word. It's hard but based on the last episode I think he's gonna be alright.
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Napoleon Bonaparty posted:The bad guy in No Country for Old Men couldn't even speak english when he did the roll. All they need is someone to make sure they've got someone who speaks a common language to teach him how to say each word. It's hard but based on the last episode I think he's gonna be alright. Your point is probably fair since the Mountain has so few lines, but that can't be true about Bardem; I remember seeing him in a small (but wordy) English-speaking role in Collateral a few years before No Country for Old Men came out.
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Irish Joe posted:Plot should come first, world-building a distant second. Plot focused stories are the disposable and replaceable ones you never hear about again. They sell easily and then die. Great worlds come back around again and again (and get shows/movies/documentaries made about them). Lord of the Rings, Dune, etc... People can always remember a well-build world or myth and use it. A hollow myth with 'lots of excitement!' is the book equivalent of a bad action movie. Irish Joe posted:
 Nevermind. You would like The Iron Druid stuff or The Dresden Files more. Lots of plot and lots of action. All you word-haters never want to read any of the other long modern fantasy sagas. Janny Wurts will make you cry. quote:Part of the reason for this is the author’s remarkable prose. Janny Wurts writes in an instantly recognizable and, to be fair, somewhat challenging style—challenging because she uses an unusually broad vocabulary and complex, long sentences and paragraphs to explore every single nuance of meaning. It’s incredible dense prose, something to read slowly, to consider and re-consider carefully. I always have to adjust to Wurts’ style when I pick up one of her books: if your average reading speed is (to pick a random number) one page per minute, expect to spend several minutes per page here. Every word counts. Wurts will spend paragraphs, pages even, exploring one character’s changed perspective on an event, in a way that never feels spun out or repetitive but instead carefully explores every thought.
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Criminal Minded posted:Your point is probably fair since the Mountain has so few lines, but that can't be true about Bardem; I remember seeing him in a small (but wordy) English-speaking role in Collateral a few years before No Country for Old Men came out. Wait, really?  I could've sworn he didn't speak english until after that role. Maybe I'm thinking of someone else...Anyways, new mountain'll do fine. He'll deliver 30 seconds of dialogue total, throw a guy across a room and turn him into a pile of blood, and then Oberyn will stab him to death. Grunting is the real universal language.
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