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ZDar Fan
Oct 15, 2012

During the scene where Jane is telling Louie why she got in trouble at school, in the background there's a passed out (possibly dead) guy in the background in the park the entire time. I love those little touches on the show.

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Doughbaron
Apr 28, 2005
I was feeling really depressed today and those two episodes just made me feel...content. I don't know another film or TV director that gets better performances out of his actors other that Paul Thomas Anderson. I'm not sure how Louie keeps getting better but it does.

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend
They're really giving Jane's actress some heavy lifting this year, and to pretty spectacular results. That violin scene was the eeriest drat thing.

entropy
Jul 19, 2003

I'm afraid I just blue and gold myself.
It's weird that the show is much more drama now than comedy, but I am loving this season. Was the second episode tonight the first in the series to not feature any standup?

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend
I'm curious to see if the thing about Jane insisting she's dreaming will play into how this arc wraps up.

Also thought for a second there that it was going to turn out the Hungarian woman could speak English when the mother told Louie to tell her something himself.

Frostwerks
Sep 24, 2007

by Lowtax
I don't know if anyone has ever said it before but Louie is definitely a fat guy for a reason. This poo poo is straight food porn.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer
Oof, I forgot what an rear end in a top hat Pamela is.

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend

Frostwerks posted:

I don't know if anyone has ever said it before but Louie is definitely a fat guy for a reason. This poo poo is straight food porn.

Louie and Hannibal would make a good Bang-Bang

AlternateAccount
Apr 25, 2005
FYGM
My god, asking the girl to stay, that was something to watch. Geez.

Tofu Injection
Feb 10, 2006

No need to panic.
I would eat an old black lady's tits.

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

AlternateAccount posted:

My god, asking the girl to stay, that was something to watch. Geez.

This made me cringe more than anything else the show has every done.

Illinois Smith
Nov 15, 2003

Ninety-one? There are ninety other "Tiger Drivers"? Do any involve actual tigers, or driving?
Re-casting his kids and then sticking with Jane's actress might be the best casting decision in the history of the show. That kid's gonna be huge, I can't wait for the movie she's in with Kristen Schaal next year.

Exploder
Nov 15, 2005

Just a humble motherfucker with a big ass dick

Illinois Smith posted:

Re-casting his kids and then sticking with Jane's actress might be the best casting decision in the history of the show. That kid's gonna be huge, I can't wait for the movie she's in with Kristen Schaal next year.

I know this is said every year in every Louie thread, but it's worth repeating. She is an incredible actress, especially for her age. That Columbus line had me busting up.

entropy posted:

It's weird that the show is much more drama now than comedy, but I am loving this season.

That's what I love about this show. C.K. has no problem experimenting with new things, and this serialized drama we have gotten so far has been a homerun. Louie has an uncanny ability to conjure all kinds of emotions.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

ZDar Fan posted:

During the scene where Jane is telling Louie why she got in trouble at school, in the background there's a passed out (possibly dead) guy in the background in the park the entire time. I love those little touches on the show.

I loved that it was never noticed or referenced or came up again, just a possibly dead dude in the background while Louie worries about his daughter and she complains about school being stupid.

Louie's face in his apartment after Evanka and Amia left was really adorable :3:

blue squares
Sep 28, 2007

I connect with little things on this show in a way I almost never do with TV. I can't help but lean forward whenever Louie is on my screen.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



Looks like last weeks episode used up all their 'fucks' then, given it was censored twice in the first episode.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
I've been putting off writing about the "fat lady" scene but gently caress it.

I think it was really problematic and while initially the whole "this is so emotionally real" thing was interesting, the more I thought about it the more unsettling it became.

She talks to Louie about all these things based on one of two premises. These are literally the only two premises which allow her speech to make any sense:

- She is saying that she finds Louie attractive. This completely undercuts the entire point of the scene if true. If "men" don't find "fat girls" attractive, that is OK. It is OK to not do physical things with people you do not find physically attractive. If she finds Louie attractive and the opposite is not true, then he is not in any way in the wrong for turning her down.

- She is saying that she finds him unattractive in the same way he (presumably) finds her unattractive. If this one is true, the implication is that she is forcing the agenda that people should do physical things with people they don't find physically attractive. I'm not cool with that. Taken to its extreme, you could use this argument to have a gay man say to a straight man "So what if you don't think I'm pretty? Just hold my hand. Why not?"

And of course there is the issue that I see fit, attractive guys dating big girls all the time but that's mostly beside the point.

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!

PostNouveau posted:

Oof, I forgot what an rear end in a top hat Pamela is.

Yeah, the last time we see her you could almost chalk her belittling of Louie and dickish behavior up to a kind of harmless ribbing. But now she just seems like a huge, needy rear end in a top hat who got knocked down and now she's trying to hook up with Louie on the rebound and is trying to manipulate him into dating her. I was actually proud of Louie for not falling for it, he just listens to what she has to say and then walks away.

But drat, I'm kind of dreading the inevitable crash with the current relationship because Louie seems so happy right now :ohdear:

James R
Dec 22, 2006

I hear they're still eating paper. Is that true?

King Vidiot posted:

Yeah, the last time we see her you could almost chalk her belittling of Louie and dickish behavior up to a kind of harmless ribbing. But now she just seems like a huge, needy rear end in a top hat who got knocked down and now she's trying to hook up with Louie on the rebound and is trying to manipulate him into dating her. I was actually proud of Louie for not falling for it, he just listens to what she has to say and then walks away.

But drat, I'm kind of dreading the inevitable crash with the current relationship because Louie seems so happy right now :ohdear:

Him getting up and leaving was actually pretty awesome for Louie. Maybe if she hadn't kicked him right up the arse!

Not Al-Qaeda
Mar 20, 2012

precision posted:

I've been putting off writing about the "fat lady" scene but gently caress it.

I think it was really problematic and while initially the whole "this is so emotionally real" thing was interesting, the more I thought about it the more unsettling it became.

She talks to Louie about all these things based on one of two premises. These are literally the only two premises which allow her speech to make any sense:

- She is saying that she finds Louie attractive. This completely undercuts the entire point of the scene if true. If "men" don't find "fat girls" attractive, that is OK. It is OK to not do physical things with people you do not find physically attractive. If she finds Louie attractive and the opposite is not true, then he is not in any way in the wrong for turning her down.

- She is saying that she finds him unattractive in the same way he (presumably) finds her unattractive. If this one is true, the implication is that she is forcing the agenda that people should do physical things with people they don't find physically attractive. I'm not cool with that. Taken to its extreme, you could use this argument to have a gay man say to a straight man "So what if you don't think I'm pretty? Just hold my hand. Why not?"

And of course there is the issue that I see fit, attractive guys dating big girls all the time but that's mostly beside the point.

It was mostly because he said she was not fat.


And man, I did not like these last three episodes at all. Except for the part where louie's really honest during the private school argument with his exwife.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Not Al-Qaeda posted:

It was mostly because he said she was not fat.

Right, if she had left it as "Yes I am, and I admit it. I'm fat!" But then she launched into the "have you ever dated a fat girl" part which made me cringe really hard. Like I said, you see thin guys dating fat girls all the time. In fact you see it a lot more than you see fat guys dating thin girls.

...of SCIENCE!
Apr 26, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

Exploder posted:

I know this is said every year in every Louie thread, but it's worth repeating. She is an incredible actress, especially for her age. That Columbus line had me busting

I loved it because "Columbus was a murderer" is such a stereotypical piece of teenage angst and rebellion. See also: Rick and Morty where adolescent Morty Jr flips out at the end of Raising Gazorpazorp.

Happy_Misanthrope
Aug 3, 2007

"I wanted to kill you, go to your funeral, and anyone who showed up to mourn you, I wanted to kill them too."

Jake Armitage posted:

VVVV And? He was still a shlubby ginger and she was hollywood royalty.
Did you even listen to the interview? This was well before Paltrow was anything close to "Hollywood Royalty", and CK was skinny as gently caress in the 80's:

Jake Armitage
Dec 11, 2004

+69 Pimp

Happy_Misanthrope posted:

Did you even listen to the interview? This was well before Paltrow was anything close to "Hollywood Royalty", and CK was skinny as gently caress in the 80's:

The gently caress are you talking about? She's the daughter of Blythe Danner and Bruce Paltrow. She was hollywood royalty when she was born. The term "hollywood royalty" doesn't mean "she's been in a couple movies and made some dough".

precision posted:

Like I said, you see thin guys dating fat girls all the time. In fact you see it a lot more than you see fat guys dating thin girls.

I think you see thin guys dating chubby girls all the time, mostly because almost everyone is chubby nowadays. But in my experience, an obese man has a much better shot at a thin woman that the other way around.

Jake Armitage fucked around with this message at 21:32 on May 20, 2014

PootieTang
Aug 2, 2011

by XyloJW

Jake Armitage posted:

I think you see thin guys dating chubby girls all the time, mostly because almost everyone is chubby nowadays. But in my experience, an obese man has a much better shot at a thin woman that the other way around.

Not to keep adding fuel to the fire, but during 'that scene' I was convinced when Louis said 'You're not fat-' that he he was gonna say 'You're chubby, not fat.' Because seriously, she wasn't even a fat girl, to me when you call someone full on 'fat' you're saying that they are full-on obese. Like they are literally made up of more than 50% fat if you were to break it down.


Really I think the whole scene is causing an argument because it's so heavily steeped in sexual politics. A speech on 'You should be having sex with THIS type of person because of these reasons' never works because that's not how attraction works. Which is also probably why people took issue with the fact that the scene ends with him essentially getting her to shut up by holding her hands, when he made it clear he didn't want to date her in the first place.

And before we go into why it's unfair, it's also not fair to throw money at someone until they feel so guilty they have to take you out, and then give them a fucklarge speech trying to guilt them even more.

But then again it's Louie and the show very rarely attempts to mimick actual reality. The scene itself didn't work in my opinion, but the writing and message of the speech itself could have been put forward and worked totally fine.

In short something something sex and fat people.

poirot818
Jun 1, 2011
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2321812/Tammy-Jung-23-feeds-5000-calories-day-funnel-hope-obese-internet-star.html

quote:

Encouragement: She is being encouraged to gain weight by her feeder boyfriend Johan Ubermen, 28, who helps her by buying £70 of junk food per day and making thick ice-cream milkshakes which he feeds to her





before:

PootieTang
Aug 2, 2011

by XyloJW

poirot818 posted:

Fast-track to a heart-attack

I wonder if someone told her that you should never starve yourself for the sake of other people finding you attractive, and decided the solution was to over-eat until someone finds her attractive.

For real kids, deciding your diet based on what will make other people like you is bad no matter which direction you're going on the scales.

BrownThunder
Oct 26, 2005

EXTEND BEN!
Forever and ever and ever

Came to this thread to check out some commentary on those last two REALLY good episodes, and here you 40-degree day motherfuckers are talking about the fat girl again.

PootieTang
Aug 2, 2011

by XyloJW

BrownThunder posted:

Came to this thread to check out some commentary on those last two REALLY good episodes, and here you 40-degree day motherfuckers are talking about the fat girl again.

Ironically it seems that fat people are one of the things the internet hates the most. Look at the whole debacle that thing raised on the internet just by virtue of it being a fat person talking about being fat in a very unapologetic way.

It's almost like people on the internet are touchy about the subject of 'being fat'.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

PootieTang posted:

It's almost like people on the internet are touchy

There you go chief.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Every time someone links to the Daily Mail an angel weeps.

Pomp
Apr 3, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

regulargonzalez posted:

Now that Community is dead, I nominate Louie to be the reigning "best show with worst thread" champ. Do I have a second?

First posts I've ever read in a Louie thread have been pages of people not getting the incredibly loving obvious point of the fat woman's monologue, but it's still not as bad as people saying that Cersei deserved to get raped.

Pomp fucked around with this message at 12:07 on May 21, 2014

Happy_Misanthrope
Aug 3, 2007

"I wanted to kill you, go to your funeral, and anyone who showed up to mourn you, I wanted to kill them too."

Jake Armitage posted:

The gently caress are you talking about? She's the daughter of Blythe Danner and Bruce Paltrow. She was hollywood royalty when she was born. The term "hollywood royalty" doesn't mean "she's been in a couple movies and made some dough"
"Louie was using his celebrity to hit on Paltrow!"

Actually he explained in the interview you're talking about, this was in the 90's when they were both in their 20's

"So who cares!? He was still a ginger schlub and she was Hollywood Royalty!"

Uh, he was actually looked pretty decent in those years and Paltrow wasn't a huge celebrity at al-

"HER PARENTS were famous gently caress you don't know the meaning of Hollywood Royalty!!"

drat, I have been :owned:

...never mind this all came about after you were accusing Louie of being a hypocrite (or at least, "placating his Reddit fanbase") for potentially exaggerating a point in his standup routine that doesn't perfectly sync up with the potential interpretation of a dramatic speech by an overweight female character on his show years afterwards.

loving comedians, what with their inconsistency and exaggeration!

Burn this thread to the ground

ChesterJT
Dec 28, 2003

Mounty Pumper's Flying Circus

Pomp posted:

First posts I've ever read in a Louie thread have been pages of people not getting the incredibly loving obvious point of the fat woman's monologue, but it's still not as bad as people saying that Cersei deserved to get raped.

Not agreeing doesn't mean people didn't get it. Get over yourself.

fspades
Jun 3, 2013

by R. Guyovich

ChesterJT posted:

Not agreeing doesn't mean people didn't get it. Get over yourself.

You wrote she sounded like being one step away from jumping a bridge when that was literally one of the complaints she had; she is regarded as a miserable person if she ever admits being fat sucks really hard. That's really the whole issue the episode tried to address: If you are an overweight women, you are either a Nivea marketing gimmick who is proud to "have curves" or you are bitter about it and everyone has to skirt around the issue and tell obvious lies to your face because they are the ones who are uncomfortable with it and what it means for them to date a fat girl.

I'm not fat and I'm not a woman either, but I'm (visibly) disabled and I instantly got her point. It sucks to have a body that falls below society's standards; it sucks even more when it comes to dating. There is just no denying it, but if she complains about it openly, suddenly it's her attitude that's the problem and she should get over it when her attitude is perfectly fine and reasonable to a real problem. It doesn't mean she's going to jump off a bridge, but as the last episode said, "the only thing that is happier than a three legged dog is a four legged dog."

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Oct 15, 2012

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ChesterJT posted:

Not agreeing doesn't mean people didn't get it. Get over yourself.

There is a difference between not agreeing and not getting it. Your posts in this thread, particularly the "one jump away from bridge, etc." one indicates the latter.

Pomp
Apr 3, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

72o
Dec 14, 2007

Those last two episodes really hit home with me, because I lived in Paris for a few years and dated a few French women who didn't speak English very well while I didn't speak French very well. I love the "discovery" of the woman Louis goes through, through her mother and the situations. The character depths are stronger than any television show I've seen.

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!

Pretty much sums up that circular argument that I really hope we don't start having again.

Feminazi stole my ice cream, then she got fat on it!! :qq:

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precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Pomp posted:

First posts I've ever read in a Louie thread have been pages of people not getting the incredibly loving obvious point of the fat woman's monologue, but it's still not as bad as people saying that Cersei deserved to get raped.

I know I have no actual authority but I would love it if people would shut up about that scene. And I'm including the posters I agree with. It's just become too toxic and very few people are being civil about disagreeing.

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