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say no to bats posted:They also tend to look like this: Yo that guys cool cause he likes the Pack. Sorry dude
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# ? May 15, 2014 21:11 |
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Yaoi Mandel posted:Yo that guys cool cause he likes the Pack. Sorry dude Yeah, idgi that guy looks like just about everyone in this state. God knows that's what I look like.
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Tartarus Sauce posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqevO_zrxsA And it could be a reflection of our consumer choice society (bear with me here). You only drink fair trade coffee and eat from fad diets and so forth. If you're crammed into a city and competing with all these other people, then you can get a leg up by being more socially responsible and what-not. I also wonder if some of the triggering stuff is a reflection of consumer choice as well. We're now very used to the idea that we don't have to read, watch or see anything unless we've specifically chosen to read, watch or see that particular thing. So when something intrusive filters through, it provokes anxiety. That might be a bit of a stretch, though. Speaking of stretching, take the skinny white girl in the yoga class who started freaking out when a fat black woman joined up, because it gave her some kind of white guilt identity crisis. It might actually be a troll because it's so ridiculous: http://www.xojane.com/it-happened-to-me/it-happened-to-me-there-are-no-black-people-in-my-yoga-classes-and-im-uncomfortable-with-it quote:I was completely unable to focus on my practice, instead feeling hyper-aware of my high-waisted bike shorts, my tastefully tacky sports bra, my well-versedness in these poses that I have been in hundreds of times. My skinny white girl body. Surely this woman was noticing all of these things and judging me for them, stereotyping me, resenting me—or so I imagined. And I mean, COME ON PEOPLE. I think people are wrapped up too tight about potentially offending others -- not even by anything they've done but just by being who they are. Like they think who they are is tantamount to an offense to others. Of course you shouldn't disrespect people. But I think my general rule should be to just let other people be themselves. That's what it means to respect other people, you know? And if everybody did that, then things would get by ok and people would generally respect each other. Just be yourself. There's being thoughtful and then there's overthinking this poo poo. BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 21:33 on May 15, 2014 |
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Well, and the irony is that in trying to flaunt her White Liberal Guilt, the woman just ended up displaying her arrogance, narcissism, and privilege at some level, because her post comes across as just pitying/fretting about people who can't be awesome like her. She just readily assumes she's the center of the universe.quote:We're now very used to the idea that we don't have to read, watch or see anything unless we've specifically chosen to read, watch or see that particular thing. So when something intrusive filters through, it provokes anxiety. That might be a bit of a stretch, though. I don't think that's such a stretch. Technology allows us to customize our environment and "express ourselves" in so many ways now, and I think it can foster a sense of expectation and entitlement, especially as we increasingly create echo chambers filled with only the people and things we like and agree with. I've seen people on Facebook, for example, get intensely, righteously pissy over pretty-trivial things that they could've just skipped over or ignored, because they really have this expectation now that they SHOULD NOT HAVE TO SEE THINGS THAT THEY DO NOT WISH TO SEE.
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# ? May 15, 2014 21:37 |
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Omi-Polari posted:This is a silly example, but take the shitstorm after Macklemore won the Grammy. People were criticizing him for appropriating hip-hop and stripping it from its power to challenge white supremacy. But to say that hip-hop must do that and serve as the cure for the ills plaguing black America really puts an impossible burden on the artists who do it. That's just an example. Who can really live up to that standard?
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# ? May 15, 2014 22:11 |
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:This really is an interesting example, and I guess I'm mostly thinking about the response to Same Love. I saw so many Facebook arguments about a straight white dude doing a rap song about homophobia and (a relatively small but vocal group of) people criticized him endlessly for being a white dude rapping about homophobia, like he couldn't talk about it because he wasn't gay and/or black. That's the vibe I got at least. And it made me wonder how these people feel about, say, Bob Dylan's protest/topical songs for example.
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# ? May 15, 2014 22:16 |
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A Buttery Pastry posted:I'm guessing this was at least partially fueled by the whole "first rapper with a political message" bullshit that was peddled around the same time. How was that a thing? Were these people just discovering rap for the first time or something? Even other white rappers have had political messages.
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PT6A posted:How was that a thing? Were these people just discovering rap for the first time or something? Even other white rappers have had political messages. A lot of people assume that rap is either about drugs, bitches, cash money, or materialism without delving deeper into the history of the genre. So when a rapper with a "message" comes alone, those same people claim that rap is now "mature" and means something while other rap before it was just frivolous.
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Nethilia posted:A lot of people assume that rap is either about drugs, bitches, cash money, or materialism without delving deeper into the history of the genre. So when a rapper with a "message" comes alone, those same people claim that rap is now "mature" and means something while other rap before it was just frivolous. I bet this partly underlies the 'morbidly obese but healthy and beautiful' crowd. If you're able to be healthier than you were before, then you weren't healthy before, and that means people who're still there aren't healthy and you're oppressing them with your views Edit: I feel like I just discovered whole crowds of people literally making themselves stupid and mentally ill due to social pressure. God help me, this is kind of interesting. Accretionist fucked around with this message at 22:45 on May 15, 2014 |
# ? May 15, 2014 22:42 |
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I had more of this sentiment in mind: http://jezebel.com/is-it-disingenuous-to-write-a-gay-anthem-if-youre-stra-1216839227/all
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Nethilia posted:A lot of people assume that rap is either about drugs, bitches, cash money, or materialism without delving deeper into the history of the genre. So when a rapper with a "message" comes alone, those same people claim that rap is now "mature" and means something while other rap before it was just frivolous. ... Soooo when Afrika Bambaataa introduced rap music to inner-city street gangs in the late 1970s as a non-violent means of resolving their differences...... that was all just frivolous? How can people be this stupid?
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Nethilia posted:A lot of people assume that rap is either about drugs, bitches, cash money, or materialism without delving deeper into the history of the genre. So when a rapper with a "message" comes alone, those same people claim that rap is now "mature" and means something while other rap before it was just frivolous. Thats because the majority of it is—not that I have a problem with that.
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# ? May 16, 2014 03:21 |
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Ungoal posted:Thats because the majority of it is—not that I have a problem with that. Uh, no it isn't. Most of what is broadcast or mainlined is, and the whole "gently caress bitchs get money" didn't start happening on wide span until gangsta rap took off in the mid to late 90s.
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Nethilia posted:Uh, no it isn't. Most of what is broadcast or mainlined is, and the whole "gently caress bitchs get money" didn't start happening on wide span until gangsta rap took off in the mid to late 90s. Even a lot of the gangsta rap had a strong political message, it was just a lot less, shall we say, presentable to white people.
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# ? May 16, 2014 04:28 |
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Some of it did, some of it didn't. I'm as wary of people who try to rationalize or deny the existence of hip hop misogyny and materialism as I am of people who paint the entire genre that way. ^ "Not presentable to white people" - man, you're acting like huge, huge numbers of white people don't eat nihilistic gangsta rap up with a spoon.
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New Coke posted:^ "Not presentable to white people" - man, you're acting like huge, huge numbers of white people don't eat nihilistic gangsta rap up with a spoon. True, but they aren't the ones acting like it's a surprise when rap has a political/social message. Obviously, misogyny, violence and materialism are also quite represented in rap, but that doesn't invalidate the social messages that are present (even in the same songs, in some cases) or mean that they don't exist.
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Nethilia posted:Uh, no it isn't. Most of what is broadcast or mainlined is, and the whole "gently caress bitchs get money" didn't start happening on wide span until gangsta rap took off in the mid to late 90s. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nL1hDkI7yFY
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# ? May 16, 2014 05:45 |
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This threads going down the wrong path fast. Start making fun of commie nerds again. Rap music rules end of story.
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BigFactory posted:Rap music rules end of story. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StlMdNcvCJo
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# ? May 16, 2014 09:59 |
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You don't like informer? Even to goof on? Get the gently caress outta here
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BigFactory posted:You don't like informer? Even to goof on? Get the gently caress outta here I think it's the best rap song ever made.
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M.O.P came around in 1992. There was rap in the '70s and '80s. Cherry picking doesn't prove your point. New Coke posted:Some of it did, some of it didn't. I'm as wary of people who try to rationalize or deny the existence of hip hop misogyny and materialism as I am of people who paint the entire genre that way. I'm wary of people who point out the misogyny, drug glorification, and materialism in rap and then turn around and accept it in another genre of music. I know rap has lovely issues, it has since the start. But the statement that gangsta rap defines the genre is dishonest. Nethilia fucked around with this message at 10:48 on May 16, 2014 |
# ? May 16, 2014 10:42 |
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People actually listen to positive rap? I thought that stuff was called hiphop.
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# ? May 16, 2014 19:28 |
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I rather enjoyed the fact that Tumbler cries about evil the White Man is as they leech from other cultures but then post stuff like this:
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Supeerme posted:I rather enjoyed the fact that Tumbler cries about evil the White Man is as they leech from other cultures but then post stuff like this: Oh god how can these people exist
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PT6A posted:True, but they aren't the ones acting like it's a surprise when rap has a political/social message. This is not false. The-Mole posted:People actually listen to positive rap? I thought that stuff was called hiphop. Lots of people listening to positive rap is a comforting lie we tell ourselves because of rap's potential. Just because you're enlightened doesn't mean that most people don't just consume what they are presented with. This all goes for metal as well, honestly. Stereotypes presented as fact. It's a Chicken or the Egg scenario. The media industry presents media to consume, which leads to demand of more of the same, which leads to more production...
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# ? May 21, 2014 00:38 |
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Only nerds listen to metal.
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# ? May 21, 2014 00:58 |
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BigFactory posted:Only nerds listen to metal. Metal Rules.
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their lil poopers posted:Metal Rules. If you're a fat teenager I guess. Edit: metal does rule, but big fat adults in enormous shorts need to take it back from nerds and big fat teenagers. BigFactory fucked around with this message at 01:44 on May 21, 2014 |
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See what I said about stereotypes? Knock that poo poo off, please.
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# ? May 21, 2014 08:57 |
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"violent messages" is a non-sequitur in this context. "fetishize" is 100% not the word they were looking for. "fat voices" is...unfortunate phrasing. Same for "burgeon" and "wide". That person's name is Fleets? What kind of name is that? JPEG artifacts. A completely redundant "Fat" button, as if seeing this person's corpus did not get the point across. A simultaneous mustache and heaving bosom, and a tropical...drapery? that brings to mind Homer Simpson's muumuu from the classic seventh season episode "King-Size Homer" (3F05). Top it off with a nasty scowl and some nice glasses, for a clown to wear, to the circus. I'm just riffing here guys, please feel free to join in. I want everyone to feel included.
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# ? May 21, 2014 09:52 |
I'd say that image is tumblr.jpg but it doesn't even begin to encompass just how deep and insane it goes.
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Javid posted:I'd say that image is tumblr.jpg but it doesn't even begin to encompass just how deep and insane it goes. tumblr: there is always more, and it is always worse.
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# ? May 22, 2014 00:15 |
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blowfish posted:tumblr: there is always more, and it is always worse.
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# ? May 24, 2014 01:44 |
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What the gently caress
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# ? May 24, 2014 10:08 |
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blowfish posted:Oh god how can these people exist They don't, but extremely gullible people do.
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# ? May 24, 2014 23:09 |
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Magic Underwear posted:"fetishize" is 100% not the word they were looking for. I think it probably is.
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# ? May 24, 2014 23:11 |
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dogcrash truther posted:They don't, but extremely gullible people do. I would be curious to know what fraction of ridiculous tumblr social justice warrior content is actually legitimate (or created by people over the age of 18).
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False flag operation Wake up sheeple.
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