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Game is fun but laser turrets really did seem to trivialize things to an amazing degree and once you have them biters can't do poo poo. Slap down power, a few turrets and some walls and you can resist basically infinite biters. If you stick to guns and stuff instead you really do have to be careful and can easily get murdered. It also applies significantly more resource pressure and makes you have to do cool things like having to include an ammo car on your train that restocks outposts with things like bullets and land mines. With laser turrets it was literally slap down 5, wall them and their power pole in a box and ignore until you no longer need them there. At most you will need to set up some drones with repair thingies to keep the walls patched up. Also solar is for wimps  . Let them come.Also dear god I should not be allowed to operate motor vehicles.
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I hope they add vehicle modding in the future like with the power armor, like a cowcatcher that reduces damage taken from running things over.
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May 20, 2014 22:29
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I've lost more cars than I care to admit to running into trees. Many, many trees.
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May 20, 2014 22:34
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Pornographic Memory posted:I've lost more cars than I care to admit to running into trees. Many, many trees. This game really needs roads that 'grip' the car's steering. You can steer off a road, but driving along it will autosteer for you so you don't swerve all over the gently caress and knock all your power pylons over each way, like I do. I wonder if that can be modded in?
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May 21, 2014 00:06
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Road acts like a railroad that you can hop on and off of?
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May 21, 2014 01:01
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If you're going between "owned" territory anyway just hop a ride on a train 
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May 21, 2014 01:08
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I've found that rather than having a single bus, it's better to have two: one with basic material inputs (iron/copper plates, stone, bricks, plastic, steel) and one parallel to it carrying processed goods. Put room for about twelve factories between each bus, and it's much simpler to route in general.
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That would certainly be good at making it more square shaped. I think that as you get better at layouts, you tend to move away from bussing products, and instead producing them where they are needed. Take plastic for example. The only thing you are likely to automate with it is advanced circuits. It doesn't make much sense to centrally bus plastic, expanding the width of your bus. Iron and copper plates are basically a lock for your bus, and should be on your fastest available belt. I would probably also bus the basic electronic circuit using a fast belt, since you use so god damned many of them once you get to tier 3 and beyond. I think that beyond those three a just-in-time production philosophy is very viable, where you put the needed factory on the spot. And who busses stone? Seriously.
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May 21, 2014 01:42
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 So basically make sure you aren't on an island before spending 20 minutes starting up
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 Note to self: Do not run after your train excitedly because you might have set it up correctly, especially if it might swing around and splatter you.
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Filthy Monkey posted:And who busses stone? Seriously. Completionists.
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May 21, 2014 02:40
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Deadmeat5150 posted:
You turned on autosaves every five minutes, right? ...right?
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The Shortest Path posted:You turned on autosaves every five minutes, right? Yes. Yes I did. And thank goodness for that.
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Trying a game right now where there is zero easy access to coal. Figured it might be a fun challenge. There is coal on the map, but it requires me to go through a nest. What I do however have is a number of trees to chop down, and easy access to numerous oil wells.  My goal has been to make a minimalist wood-powered setup as I rush to oil processing, so I can power everything via solid fuel.  My tech list is going automation->steel processing->oil processing. I just handcrafted 50 green flasks, while I set my factory to make red flasks. Keeping things really small until I can get solid fuel coming, as handfeeding wood sucks.
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Evilreaver posted:
You have everything you need, turn that island into a fortress that would make any evil genius weep with envy. You're going to run out of stone. 
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Can't wait until we get those worldgen keys in 0.10, a lot of people seem to be getting really cool map scenarios and it bugs me that there's no real way for me to get at them 
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A pretty cool way to do multiplayer in this would be to have players on separate maps, competing to fill an order of a certain number of components first, and only able to attack each other indirectly (launching asteroids at each other, or making the wildlife more aggressive, or stuff like that.)
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May 21, 2014 12:17
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Are there any good guides to how to set up the big gorgeous bus driven factories that I see posted here? I'm trying to decipher them from the screenshots but you can only zoom in so far before everything becomes a blob.
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May 21, 2014 14:29
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All bases should look like Beijing on a particularly bad day.
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Rapner posted:Are there any good guides to how to set up the big gorgeous bus driven factories that I see posted here? I have a close-up pic somewhere on page 3. It's a bit more convoluted than necessary, but it gets the point across.
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Rapner posted:Are there any good guides to how to set up the big gorgeous bus driven factories that I see posted here? Do my zoomed in screen shots from http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3629545&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=11#post429838812 help? The basic principle is mats move left to right in a tight main buss of belts. When you want to make something new you spit the mats belts you need for it and have the new branches move perpendicular to the main bus until you get above or below the main bus. The belts your branch cross get sent underground. Then you pull mats off this branch below or above the main bus and process them and add the result to the main bus in a new belt. *edit: if you use the one belt per mat and one lain left empty for merging like I do. It helps if you make sure that the lain that has the mat is always the same one, and that it is the side that your processing will happen on. So all my main bus travels left to right and has the mats on the bottom of each belt. So all my processing is done below the main bus. Hagop fucked around with this message at 15:13 on May 21, 2014 |
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Hagop posted:Do my zoomed in screen shots from Did you use a mod to make the underground section of the steel belt go so far?
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Pornographic Memory posted:Did you use a mod to make the underground section of the steel belt go so far? If you mean the iron belt in screen shot two, its two different underground sections. belt enter under under exit belt enter under exit. edit: Wrong!!!! Yes that is a mod To do it with out mods just push the steel belt one more over to the right and have it loop back into place after the circuit boards do. Hagop fucked around with this message at 15:25 on May 21, 2014 |
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I admit I prefer to have my clusterfuck bases rather than clean efficiency driven ones. Makes the game more difficult for me. In other mew I finally have a train loop working to bring plastics from one side of my base to the other and return with circuit boards!
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Is there a way to easily clearcut a forest early on? I got a map with iron, copper, and coal all right next to each other but they're all right in the middle of a jungle, so getting infrastructure around them is a pain in the rear end.
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Shoot it up with your weapon of choice. Hover over a potential target (trees, in this case) and hold down C. In the case of shotguns and flamethrowers, just press space. They aren't too concerned about having targets.
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Grey Elephants posted:Is there a way to easily clearcut a forest early on? I got a map with iron, copper, and coal all right next to each other but they're all right in the middle of a jungle, so getting infrastructure around them is a pain in the rear end. Flamethrower!   I think I got lucky with a starting position.
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How do you deal with all green power at night? Is there a way to store solar power for later?
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Accumulators. They can seem pretty expensive at first, since getting battery production going takes quite a bit of effort, but after that you'll be laughing.
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Deadmeat5150 posted:Flamethrower! Big water!
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Deadmeat5150 posted:Big water! Peeg vater.
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Also the best anti-forest weapon are basic grenades. They clear forest like no one's business.
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Gotdammy posted:Which is kind of sad, really. There ought to be tanker cars for trains and forget barrels entirely. Developer Roadmap posted:Factorio 0.12  They're spending most of 0.11 sussing out multiplayer though, so I'm expecting this to take a while. Still, yay!
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This game is refreshingly fun and unique and already surprisingly well designed. It definitely scratches that old OTTD itch in a way that doesn't disturb the scar from scratching that old OTTD itch too much.
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Is it strange I'm looking forward to horribly broken and buggy first implementation multiplayer? Playing with a friend is great, but half the fun turns into seeing how spectacularly things break while they develop it.
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Evilreaver posted:Has anyone been following development prior to this thread? How long do they take between patches, how soon is multiplayer? This time last year they were on 0.4.1/0.5, and updates have been fairly frequent if somewhat irregular since then. The recent publicity push and their graphics man being on [sort-of] holiday are slowing things down at the minute.
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I really really hope multiplayer has a team option.
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Overwined posted:I really really hope multiplayer has a team option. My guess is it will be co-op similar to minecraft at the start. Anyone connected can interact with everything. Competitive modes would come later.
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