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Fojar38 posted:Sorry couldn't finish. bet you tell all the girls that
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# ? May 22, 2014 05:53 |
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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:bet you tell all the girls that He's never made it that far.
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# ? May 22, 2014 06:31 |
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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:bet you tell all the girls that isnt that the wrong eye? She's closing her eye that is in line with the scope.
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# ? May 22, 2014 06:42 |
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orange juche posted:isnt that the wrong eye? She's closing her eye that is in line with the scope. i wouldn't be so sure about that being a her
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# ? May 22, 2014 07:07 |
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friend of the family DEATH TURBO posted:i wouldn't be so sure about that being a her
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# ? May 22, 2014 07:10 |
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orange juche posted:isnt that the wrong eye? She's closing her eye that is in line with the scope. dont ask me questions about the random gis pics i post in a frantic rush to not be allowed to shitpost for 6 hours m8
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# ? May 22, 2014 07:15 |
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I have to wonder, would the VA be a little less overwhelmed if the priority of military medical was the long term health of the patient rather then getting them back to duty as quickly as possible? How many people are filing VA claims for stuff like destroyed joints that would never have happened if they'd received competent medical treatment?
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# ? May 22, 2014 07:38 |
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Jarmak posted:I have to wonder, would the VA be a little less overwhelmed if the priority of military medical was the long term health of the patient rather then getting them back to duty as quickly as possible? How many people are filing VA claims for stuff like destroyed joints that would never have happened if they'd received competent medical treatment? quote:the priority of military medical was the long term health of the patient rather then getting them back to duty as quickly as possible? How many people are filing VA claims for stuff like destroyed joints that would never have happened if they'd received competent medical treatment? quote:How many people are filing VA claims for stuff like destroyed joints that would never have happened if they'd received competent medical treatment? quote:competent medical treatment? AHAHAHAHAHA! "You have a compound fracture in your forearm and we can't find two of your fingers. Here's some Motrin, light duty and no lifting for 5 days." "FIVE DAYS! YOU loving MALINGERER! I'LL HAVE YOU loving SHOT!"
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# ? May 22, 2014 07:44 |
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friend of the family DEATH TURBO posted:i wouldn't be so sure about that being a her It's a Dragunov Queen.
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# ? May 22, 2014 07:48 |
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after afghanistan I tried getting sleep meds and the psychologist told me that my experiences made me a stronger person and then just sent me away. lmao.
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# ? May 22, 2014 08:42 |
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ded posted:What are we going to do? Launch nukes at astroids? We are hosed regardless. if we land ozma on it, the center of mass will shift and change its trajectory
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# ? May 22, 2014 08:44 |
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quote:WASHINGTON (AP) — Armed security forces at a nuclear missile base failed a drill last summer that simulated the hostile takeover of a missile launch silo because they were unable to speedily regain control of the captured nuclear weapon, according to an internal Air Force review obtained by The Associated Press. http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ap-exclusive-air-force-nuke-security-failed-test
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# ? May 22, 2014 09:23 |
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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:gently caress that Just after a really lovely drawn out conventional war where we learn a lot about ourselves and look to a better tomorrow.
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# ? May 22, 2014 09:31 |
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quote:The security team was required to respond to the simulated capture of a Minuteman 3 nuclear missile silo, termed an "Empty Quiver" scenario in which a nuclear weapon is lost, stolen or seized. how would someone lose a loving minuteman 3?
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# ? May 22, 2014 09:38 |
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Mike-o posted:how would someone lose a loving minuteman 3? How exactly would one find one? Hang up wanted posters? "Have you seen this Minuteman III missile?"
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# ? May 22, 2014 09:43 |
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Mike-o posted:how would someone lose a loving minuteman 3?
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# ? May 22, 2014 09:45 |
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50FA that posting in the gbs thread was
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# ? May 22, 2014 09:59 |
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orange juche posted:50FA that posting in the gbs thread was Thanks. I knew that time was running out, that someone was gonna warn them.
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# ? May 22, 2014 10:00 |
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orange juche posted:50FA that posting in the gbs thread was Link?
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# ? May 22, 2014 12:28 |
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ThatBasqueGuy posted:Link? http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3636439&userid=116143 50FA plays dumb to humor someone, and then slams down his unit patch and drops the mic and walks out, and posts this on the way out the door.
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# ? May 22, 2014 12:44 |
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God why did I just read 10 pages of gbs. It is I that has truly been trolled.
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# ? May 22, 2014 13:09 |
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Mr. Nice! posted:God why did I just read 10 pages of gbs. It is I that has truly been trolled. You truly missed 50FA's cold-war stories. That's why you read 10 pages of GBS. 50FA, glad to see you're alive. you should start reposting your stories/come up with new stories in that Tom Clancy circle-jerk thread. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3613906
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# ? May 22, 2014 13:52 |
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Reverand maynard posted:if we land ozma on it, the center of mass will shift and change its trajectory We can't get enough lift generated with current missile tech.
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# ? May 22, 2014 15:39 |
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Reverand maynard posted:after afghanistan I tried getting sleep meds and the psychologist told me that my experiences made me a stronger person and then just sent me away. lmao. If Jack Daniels and sleeping with a gun under his pillow is good enough for Audie Murphy, then it's good enough for you.
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# ? May 22, 2014 17:23 |
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Zeroisanumber posted:If Jack Daniels and sleeping with a gun under his pillow is good enough for Audie Murphy, then it's good enough for you. One of my company commanders no poo poo kept photos of Audie Murphy and John Wayne on the wall of his office. He was a little off...
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# ? May 22, 2014 17:31 |
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EVA BRAUN BLOWJOBS posted:One of my company commanders no poo poo kept photos of Audie Murphy and John Wayne on the wall of his office. He was a little off... John Wayne would be less weird because you could always just say that you're a big fan of Hondo or some poo poo, but the two together should scare shitless anyone under his command.
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# ? May 22, 2014 18:10 |
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EVA BRAUN BLOWJOBS posted:One of my company commanders no poo poo kept photos of Audie Murphy and John Wayne on the wall of his office. He was a little FTFY
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# ? May 22, 2014 18:21 |
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john wayne was a draft dodging human being hth
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# ? May 22, 2014 18:28 |
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The former director of the KGB is alleging that Edward Snowden is cooperating with Russian Intelligence. The dude is an avid critic of Putin, so grain of salt, etc.; but then again lol if anyone thinks Snowden's asylum status came with no strings attached.
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# ? May 22, 2014 18:57 |
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How much can one guy possibly know that we should really give a poo poo anymore
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# ? May 22, 2014 19:04 |
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Even if we had irrefutable evidence that he was always spying for the Russians it wouldn't slow down his cheerleaders a bit.
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# ? May 22, 2014 19:07 |
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There's decent evidence that Snowden was a Rus agent or at least turned long before he got his NSA contractor job. Because I'm lazy I'm not going to look it up, but I'll link to this claiming he apparently stole a bunch of stuff on current (at the time) intel organizations and activities: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/lawmakers-snowdens-leaks-may-endanger-us-troops quote:WASHINGTON (AP) — Two congressmen say a classified Pentagon report on former National Security Agency systems analyst Edward Snowden asserts that most of the documents he took concerned current military operations. That's a few months old but it's not like DoD or other intel groups turn on a dime. Previous really bad leaks like Ames etc took years to regroup from. It's also worth remembering that while in this case the messenger may very much deserve to be shot, that doesn't in any way excuse the despicable programs he exposed, and if they hadn't existed then he never could've used them for cover, which could have much more greatly limited the actual intel damage.
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# ? May 22, 2014 19:16 |
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Snowdens Secret posted:There's decent evidence that Snowden was a Rus agent or at least turned long before he got his NSA contractor job. I've never heard this even once. Source?
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# ? May 22, 2014 20:33 |
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I anticipate more spies will probably claim whistleblower status in tone future so idiots will declare them heroes, and bog everything down.
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# ? May 22, 2014 20:58 |
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How does the tech dude for a contractor get this much secret information. I'm a low level operations dude for a public company and I would get investigated and canned long before I saved that much corporate information. There is clearly a problem with data access ability going on there.
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krispykremessuck posted:I've never heard this even once. Source? poo poo man I can't remember where I read the stuff but it wasn't someplace tinfoily. Here's something recent: http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304831304579542402390653932 quote:Yet others—until now not often quoted in news accounts—see Mr. Snowden as neither a hero nor a whistleblower. Gen. Martin Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, testified to the House Armed Services Committee on March 13, 2014, that "The vast majority of the documents that Snowden . . . exfiltrated from our highest levels of security had nothing to do with exposing government oversight of domestic activities." Time magazine on April 3 quoted Rep. Mike Rogers (R., Mich.), the head of the House Intelligence Committee, as saying Mr. Snowden was "definitely under the influence of Russian officials." Take every statement by someone possibly tied to domestic surveillance with a grain of salt, of course, but the (circumstantial) evidence is something like this: - Snowden quit the CIA for private work in '08. He claims he was disillusioned and could have 'done extreme damage' to the intel community at that point, but didn't, because he thought Obama was going to clean it up. Whether any of that sounds plausible to you or not is up to you, but at some point he starts angling towards contractors and work that put him back in a similar community. Coincidence / simple area of expertise, mischief on his mind, knowingly or not being steered by foreign agents, who knows. Similar patterns of behavior have been seen with other people known to have been turned Russian agents. - Like the article says, he pretty much starts stealing poo poo the first moment he can, with a pretty good idea of what he's looking for, and it's not domestic liberties related. Maybe this really was all his idea and it made sense to him for his objectives, maybe not. He also has an awful lot of passwords and backdoors from day one; maybe he's just that good, maybe the NSA is that bad, who knows. Casimir Radon posted:I anticipate more spies will probably claim whistleblower status in tone future so idiots will declare them heroes, and bog everything down. Snowden actually wouldn't be the first Russian agent burned using a whistleblower smokescreen so again this fits a pattern, although those were much smaller-scale and I can't remember who they were - His escape flight path makes little sense unless the intent was to leave him in Russia. (I don't know if I buy this, his escape path made little sense regardless.) Finally it fits other patterns of recent Russian espionage attempts: http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/it-security/have-you-heard-the-one-about-the-21st-century-russian-spy-ring/#. quote:Moscow also sought information about personnel turnover at the top of the CIA and the 2008 presidential election. I think there's decent (but again, circumstantial, at least the public stuff) evidence, but whether he was a straight up spy, a useful idiot, or a noble whistleblower has exactly zero bearing on whether the programs he exposed were morally and legally justifiable.
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# ? May 22, 2014 21:49 |
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Snowdens Secret posted:poo poo man I can't remember where I read the stuff but it wasn't someplace tinfoily. Here's something recent: It's at least more interesting than the traitor/hero narrative that's been given. I'd have thought by now the spy narrative would have been pushed more strongly by current establishment figure-heads. Granted, if he was a foreign agent, it's not necessarily within the best interests of the administration to acknowledge that they think so immediately. I guess we'll all have to wait 30 years or so until they declassify those reports. My gut instinct is to say that in terms of foreign actors, he was coincidentally an useful idiot. People do exceedingly dumb poo poo when they think they're taking a principled stand. Best Friends posted:How does the tech dude for a contractor get this much secret information. I'm a low level operations dude for a public company and I would get investigated and canned long before I saved that much corporate information. There is clearly a problem with data access ability going on there. Really, really bad practices. Between Manning and Snowden I'm not sure how people haven't figured out just how bad it was.
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# ? May 22, 2014 22:01 |
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Irrespective of his original intentions, I doubt the Russians are giving him much choice about his level of cooperation now that they have him by the balls.
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# ? May 22, 2014 22:03 |
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The Russian spy angle is a reasonable possibility, although I would have expected rewards rather than ball twisting. Like giving him an award for humanitarianism and set him up with a nice house and job or something, seems a bit low key right now. Of course the NSA people are all professional liars with no respect for either laws, congress or the citizenry. So I'll take them saying he primarily stole military intel, and not evidence on how the very persons testifying are all criminals, with a spoon of salt. Really, I'd trust very little being said on either side to not be quite heavily modified versions of the truth. Maybe in 50 years or whenever all this is declassified we'll get some insight, but for now it's all guesswork. Personally I'd be leaning towards the in between explanation. He honestly was disgusted by a lot of the ends justify the means stuff going on behind the doors and wanted to expose wrongdoing, vacuumed everything he could get his hands on, then ditched the country and lived a romanticized 'life on the run'. Unfortunately for him poo poo like this doesn't end like in the movies, the government would have expatriated him to some friendly African dictators basement for some razorwire-dildo interrogations, and the only place where he could actually run was China or Russia. Because, honestly, where the gently caress else could he have gone that the US could not have gotten him? I think that's the part that is kinda weak in the spy version of events. It really proves nothing that that was where he ended up if it was literally the only place where he'd be safe from any inventive and imaginative US interrogations. Dead Reckoning posted:Irrespective of his original intentions, I doubt the Russians are giving him much choice about his level of cooperation now that they have him by the balls. Why would we think the Russians and Chinese didn't vacuum everything he had the second they laid hand on him? What would he have left that they have not already taken? It's not like he knew all that much himself, his value were the files in his possession. At most he'd know some stuff about US electronic security, but that info is outdated by now and on the same level as the documents. Anything not in his possession would presumably be held by some journalist. In which case it'd be the journalists they'd have any use going after.
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Courthouse posted:The Russian spy angle is a reasonable possibility, although I would have expected rewards rather than ball twisting. Like giving him an award for humanitarianism and set him up with a nice house and job or something, seems a bit low key right now. The thing you're not taking in to account is the angle the KGB liked playing the most, which is planting the idea that the Americans play dirtier than they do. They even ran ops after JFK died , the moon landings and all sorts of other poo poo to get people to doubt the validity of any and everything the US did at home and abroad. Putin plays very much by the old playbook and he's not the least bit afraid of NATO, he postures in every aspect of his life, from shirtless hunting trips, to smug interactions with reporters to bringing his loving dogs to play with Merkel. Guy can't go 8 seconds without whipping out his cock and slapping someone with it then whispering "America could have stopped that but they didn't". Snowden probably started out as a wanna be whistle blower, then they got to him when he started talking to the media and brought him and his files over, then used him as an Anti-Western puppet to sew discontent across NATO, SATO and other US allies. He's just a kid they're trying to use as the Che Guverra of the Facebook generation, but unfortunately he doesn't have the street cred. Putin parades him around to interview Russian intelligence officials on TV about the beautiful transparency of all things Russia. Putin realizes Snowden's value has jack poo poo to do with intelligence and everything to do with media perception, and thats exactly how he's playing him.
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