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Hopefully this isn't the wrong thread, but I am getting more serious about upgrading my 7950 to either a R9 290 or GF 770. Not considering used mining cards though. Is there any logical reason to pick the 770 (~$500) over the 290 (~$350) when 290's gaming benchmarks are on par or better? I haven't been on Team Green since the 9800 mk II era, so I don't know if there's some huge NV-only feature I'm missing. I am going to buy Watch_Dogs anyway more than likely so NV would shave $30-40 of value off the card.
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Well it isn't the right thread but also the 770 is not $500. http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/video-card/#m=8,14,27,40&qq=1&sort=a1&c=137
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May 24, 2014 04:19
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SourKraut posted:FYI - He just put these up, and has them listed as new / never used for $169.99. Just grabbed one of these. Price went up to $179 as I was watching it. Still 1 left it looks like.
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May 24, 2014 04:50
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beejay posted:Well it isn't the right thread but also the 770 is not $500. http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/video-card/#m=8,14,27,40&qq=1&sort=a1&c=137 Err meant the 780, from a performance standpoint
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May 24, 2014 05:09
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deimos posted:Err that'll teach me to try to simplify things without re-reading what I type, and this might be wrong, but... Doesn't cache coherency make it easier to write multi thread/core algorithms that can offload to GPU? HPC will obviously continue down the accelerator/coprocessor path, and there is increasing adoption in mobile. Professor Science fucked around with this message at 08:28 on May 24, 2014 |
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May 24, 2014 08:19
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SourKraut posted:FYI - He just put these up, and has them listed as new / never used for $169.99. How it can it be new / never used if it doesn't ship with the original packaging? What do they do, immediately get GPUs, toss all the boxes and leave them lying around? Seems like you'd keep the boxes to increase resell value later..
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May 24, 2014 08:44
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Some of those miners were literally buying dozens and dozens of cards to set up into mining rigs. It's entirely possible that they simply didn't have the room for all the boxes, or unpackaged it all intending to make another rig and never got around to it. I bought what appears to be a completely new 290 that didn't come with packaging simply because it cost an extra $15 to mail the bigger box than the card alone.
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May 24, 2014 08:58
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SourKraut posted:FYI - He just put these up, and has them listed as new / never used for $169.99. 
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May 24, 2014 09:15
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Have we seen any effect on the ordinary store-prices from all this unloading? Can't imagine this is doing wonders for the traditional retailers sales right now but maybe it's such a tiny volume in the grand state of things...?
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May 24, 2014 11:06
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Things are largely down to more or less MSRP, yeah. So you can now find 290's around $375-$450, and 290X's around $500-$600, depending on specific model.
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May 24, 2014 12:52
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HalloKitty posted:How it can it be new / never used if it doesn't ship with the original packaging? This guy built a million dollar plus setup in a data center. Imagine how many cards he has or had.
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May 24, 2014 15:39
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bought a supposedly new 280x for $180 last week, just sold my old 660ti for $170. 
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Smooth Willis posted:bought a supposedly new 280x for $180 last week, just sold my old 660ti for $170. drat, you did well. Comparison for your $10.
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May 24, 2014 16:20
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I'm running windows 7 x64 and just updated the drivers for my GTX 660 to the latest ones (335.23) through the GeForce Experience software, but when I restart my computer windows seems to have really slowed down. Lke things are running at 1/4 speed. I.e. i open any windows and they just gradually fade in rather than just "pop". This only happens after I restart the computer though. Everything seems to run fine immediately after installing the driver. Is this a known issue with the driver or is there something I need to tweak to stop this. Kin fucked around with this message at 18:05 on May 24, 2014 |
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May 24, 2014 17:36
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I have two PNY 750ti, one has a rattle when it is operating and one doesn't. Is there an easy way to fix the rattling or replace the fan with one from a nearby Microcenter or should I just RMA it?
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May 24, 2014 18:00
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So I had resigned myself to waiting until the next generation of GPUs to see if anything could replace my Geforce 660 at my upgrade price point (~$200-250 for at least a 50% performance improvement). Is there any real reason I shouldn't buy one of these from bitcoin Santa?
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May 25, 2014 01:28
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can we change the title to "GO AHEAD BUY BITCOIN VIDEO CARDS"
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FallenGod posted:Is there any real reason I shouldn't buy one of these from bitcoin Santa?
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Ignoarints posted:can we change the title to "GO AHEAD BUY BITCOIN VIDEO CARDS" Well I'd emphasize that some brands are a much better option than others, I think it's Asus and EVGA that do RAM by serial number so they don't care who owned it before you got it.
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May 25, 2014 02:19
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Also Gigabyte and I believe MSI. Of the lot, Gigabyte is AFAIK the only one that provides a 3-year, S/N-based, not completely poo poo customer-service warranty. Also their cards tend to be on the cheaper side, to boot. Downside is some of their 290X models apparently had RAM issues. Really I think Sapphire and XFX are the only ones still doing invoice-based warranties these days.
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May 25, 2014 02:23
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Shaocaholica posted:Well one technically doesn't guarantee the other. Just wondering if there's untapped potential that's being held back by NUMA that can only be gained through UMA. Even if the GPU would execute something 10x faster than a CPU would, it might still be faster to run the calculations on the CPU since copying data over PCI-E is likely going to take far more cycles. With unified memory (and especially with shared pointers and cache coherence) this isn't an issue.
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May 25, 2014 13:00
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Is there a way to clone with two different resolution monitors using some kind of super sampling for the lower resolution monitor? For example the main monitor is 1440p and I would like to clone the same image on a 1080p projector.
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May 25, 2014 15:20
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Have you seen my apex seals? I seem to have lost them.
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May 25, 2014 15:37
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Aeka 2.0 posted:Is there a way to clone with two different resolution monitors using some kind of super sampling for the lower resolution monitor? For example the main monitor is 1440p and I would like to clone the same image on a 1080p projector.
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May 25, 2014 15:56
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Alereon posted:What videocard do you have? I think AMD and nVidia drivers will do resampling from selected resolution to native, either up or down. I used this to game at 1440p on a 1080p screen for supersampling, and I think it will work on the desktop as well if configured that way. GTX 780. I can super sample when "extending" the desktop, but I can't use custom resolutions when cloning.
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Question: Right now, I have a Geforce 550Ti, and while it's not great, it gets the job done. However, this particular card has left me experiencing the "display driver has crashed blah blah blah" thing, that apparently can affect all Nvidia cards, and for which there is no known universal solution. My research indicates this problem has existed for years, and I have personally dealt with it for a year and a half now. In short, when the crash occurs, the monitor restarts and, typically, whatever game I'm running crashes. This makes a lot of things totally unplayable, as you may imagine. Based on my experience, though, the crashes only occur when the card is overtaxed. Thus, my question: If I just buy a new card, probably a 760, and uninstall my drivers before installing the new card, is it probable that the issue will go away?
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LuciferMorningstar posted:If I just buy a new card, probably a 760, and uninstall my drivers before installing the new card, is it probable that the issue will go away? This type of video driver crash typically is a sign that the card in question has a hardware defect: A brand new graphics card without faults shouldn't give you any hassle. The "solution" to the driver crashing is either to underclock the card (and, thus, circumvent the issue) or to get a new one. Fame Douglas fucked around with this message at 22:00 on May 26, 2014 |
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In addition to the warranty stuff, it might not be such a hot idea to buy 7000-series cards that were used for mining, both because of less remaining warranty and being worked far longer. I wouldn't even care so much about the warranty (as compared to buying any other used card at any other point in time) for R9 cards since they would've only been used for mining for like 3-4 months tops.DrDork posted:Really I think Sapphire and XFX are the only ones still doing invoice-based warranties these days.
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Fame Douglas posted:This type of video driver crash typically is a sign that the card in question has a hardware defect: A brand new graphics card without faults shouldn't give you any hassle. The "solution" to the driver crashing is either to underclock the card (and, thus, circumvent the issue) or to get a new one. This is all I wanted to hear, and it confirms my suspicions. I didn't overclock it, so that would have been a factory thing, and it wasn't broken out of the box, nor did it take a driver update to start failing, so I'll just upgrade. Wonder why everyone else acts like this is a software issue. In any case, thanks! E: Should I then avoid factory-overclocked cards? Or is it just a coinflip, so to speak? LuciferMorningstar fucked around with this message at 02:13 on May 27, 2014 |
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Some of the factory overclocked cards running more extreme clock speeds tend to have a higher likelihood of having been manufactured with chips that can't handle the speed and, therefore, are potentially more prone to errors in their "out of the box" configuration. Of course, you're then free to RMA your new purchase to receive a unit that is working perfectly. A modestly factory overclocked card is probably a safer purchase (I'm running a perfectly stable 6% factory overclocked Asus 780 Ti DirectCU II myself, for example). Fame Douglas fucked around with this message at 03:05 on May 27, 2014 |
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Fame Douglas posted:Some of the factory overclocked cards running more extreme clock speeds tend to have a higher likelihood of having been manufactured with chips that can't handle the speed and, therefore, are potentially more prone to errors in their "out of the box" configuration. Of course, you're then free to RMA your new purchase to receive a unit that is working perfectly. Okay. My current one is a Gigabyte, and I suspect that may have been where I made my error. Should have gone with a more reputable manufacturer.
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Funnily enough, the first 780 Ti I had bought was a Gigabyte GTX 780 Ti WindForce 3X OC; a card many people have experienced problems with, including me (nVidia driver crashes in games as well as visible artifacts in 3DMark 11, but not in games). Thankfully, I was able to get it exchanged for the Asus. But I think the general consensus on here is that, typically, Gigabyte cards are fine.
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Ironic I just started getting nvidia driver crashes out of the blue. It woudln't actually crash the game, but it would make the fps tank and everything look like low settings. I figured it might be because of the overclock which I turned off. They were running at 1293 mhz which is pretty drat high for stock voltage from what I can tell. Hopefully that's all it is, but factory speeds aren't a whole lot lower so I guess I'll see
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Ignoarints posted:Ironic I just started getting nvidia driver crashes out of the blue. It woudln't actually crash the game, but it would make the fps tank and everything look like low settings. I figured it might be because of the overclock which I turned off. They were running at 1293 mhz which is pretty drat high for stock voltage from what I can tell. Hopefully that's all it is, but factory speeds aren't a whole lot lower so I guess I'll see Check for bitcoin/altcoin miners.
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I forgot to mention Windows reports the driver crashes when this happens. Which I wouldn't have readily guessed since the game actually still continues. Don Lapre posted:Check for bitcoin/altcoin miners. Is there anything special I need to do to check this? I never even considered it but now it seems like such an obvious thing for assholes to do... Edit: I'm doing my "usual" routine which might be a bit dated now. I usually reinstall windows so often I never seem to have obvious issues anymore, like I did maybe 5+ years ago. - Ran CCleaner - Running Windows Defender full scan right now - ... - Reinstall Windows Ignoarints fucked around with this message at 03:55 on May 27, 2014 |
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Ignoarints posted:I forgot to mention Windows reports the driver crashes when this happens. Which I wouldn't have readily guessed since the game actually still continues. Look for weird processes running in task manager. Have you installed anything from a questionable source lately?
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Don Lapre posted:Look for weird processes running in task manager. Have you installed anything from a questionable source lately? I edited my post above, but I didn't notice anything strange from looking it over now. When the crash happens I look in task manager to see if anything is hogging resources and nothing seemed out of the ordinary. I'm going to go through the process list carefully now and google everything I'm even remotely unsure of. Forgot to mention, no I haven't installed anything really in a long time. The last thing was probably Titanfall, and probably the last "questionable" thing was CRU.exe for monitor overclocking. Earlier today I tried to install an unsigned "driver" to my display driver but it is just a short .ini file that I looked through (makes the monitor report as greater than 60hz natively) and it failed anyways, and it was after the first time the nvidia driver crashed like this Ignoarints fucked around with this message at 04:05 on May 27, 2014 |
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Straker posted:My 7990 was a PowerColor and the warranty seemed to be invoice-based, but as long as the original buyer hasn't already had to return the card, so what? It's not like they have access to Newegg's records. When I sold mine I offered to fudge an invoice for the buyer if they ever needed, since I never needed warranty service myself.
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Does the GTX 770 not overlock that well? Mine is of the MSI flavor. I'm not able to get much more than an extra 50mhz out of the core, before the display drivers start crashing running the heaven benchmark thing. Also upping the core voltage/power limit in MSI afterburner doesn't make any difference surprisingly.
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Slider posted:Does the GTX 770 not overlock that well? Mine is of the MSI flavor. I'm not able to get much more than an extra 50mhz out of the core, before the display drivers start crashing running the heaven benchmark thing. Also upping the core voltage/power limit in MSI afterburner doesn't make any difference surprisingly. What is it at? ~1220-1250 seems to be the norm. The voltage control limited to say the least. I'd reflash the bios for more but I'm already running hot on one card Memory overclock is a bit more substantial. Seems like most people can get at least 7600 mhz. Some cards have gotten a whopping 8.0-8.2 ghz memory
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