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does anyone really not understand how this new stuff works because i could explain it to you in great detail if you don't understand. or do you just enjoy being really angry about it
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I love this, because everyone is mad that we suck at math in this country, but any minor changes to the way we teach math brings out this IT IS SOOO DIFFERENT bullshit. Look, we are changing it because our kids are coming out stupid. Thanks to computers, we don't need to teach boring stupid algorithms that are quick but you don't understand. Now we can teach slow algorithms that actually help kids estimate and understand numbers. The quick method they will use is called your loving calculator.
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May 25, 2014 22:29
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Its basically that Simpsons episode where they put Bart in the remedial class and he was like "so you're going to make me catch up to the other kids by learning slower than them?" that's America
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May 25, 2014 22:29
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Gulzin posted:This a million times. I am sure you all understand exactly why you carry and borrow right? failing to act like a goddamn retard is now doing it wrong 0/10 see me after class
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May 25, 2014 22:29
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The White Dragon posted:Calculate the circumference of Goatman's rear end in a top hat in pixels assuming a 1440x900 image resolution. Use this to subtract 4 from 7. It prepares those kids for the logic jumps in later disciplines that they are absolutely not prepared for right now. The amount of kids having to take remedial maths courses in college is silly and trying to teach at a college level in any higher course that makes use of advanced mathematics is excruciating when they are being taught to the lower standards we used to have.
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May 25, 2014 22:29
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lmao this is just such fuckin bullshit not necessarily because the methodology is wrong but that these kids are gonna be so fuckin lost when they get to university and their professors aren't gonna be interested in this poo poo
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May 25, 2014 22:30
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gary oldmans diary posted:they will have it explained to them as though they were retards and then have to communicate it as though they were retards talking to other retards with no one ever assuming that the other party understands something as complicated as carrying and borrowing So explain to me how to multiply 53 by 34. Also, explain why it works, don't just cite your bullshit algorithm. Kids actually explaining why poo poo works! Holy crap, they might even be able to understand Calculus when they take it!
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May 25, 2014 22:31
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The specific images you've been posting weren't from that. Try harder. It's okay though, if you want to keep your kids learning the old way. We need ditch diggers too.
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May 25, 2014 22:31
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what in the literal gently caress?
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May 25, 2014 22:32
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sure the way we were taught was totally effective at teaching us math and logical thinking, there's no reason to change it, gently caress this dumb new way because it's different *is in a country well below average in math and science performance and has been for years*
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May 25, 2014 22:33
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Some of that seems waaay too dumbed down. Is there a particular reason they're saying 'number sentences' and poo poo or what?
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May 25, 2014 22:33
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gary oldmans diary posted:they will have it explained to them as though they were retards and then have to communicate it as though they were retards talking to other retards with no one ever assuming that the other party understands something as complicated as carrying and borrowing On the other hand this grown-rear end person can't understand the simple logic behind Sabel posted:
The answer is (C), it's doing the subtraction in steps with ten as a benchmark.
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May 25, 2014 22:33
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why would you need to multiply 53 by 34 w/o a calculator exactly i've never had to do any of that poo poo in any college math-related class
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May 25, 2014 22:33
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waffle posted:sure the way we were taught was totally effective at teaching us math and logical thinking, there's no reason to change it, gently caress this dumb new way because it's different  the naysayers want to believe that their kids are special and that "no real life application" will ever come from this as they post from devices engineered using complex ideas Remember, common core is VOLUNTARY, the states are choosing to do this. States rights 
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May 25, 2014 22:35
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pretty sure kids dont suck at math because the teaching method is bad, they suck at math because theyre kids and math sucks compared to fun.
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May 25, 2014 22:35
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Gulzin posted:So explain to me how to multiply 53 by 34. Also, explain why it works, don't just cite your bullshit algorithm. There isn't any reason why it works. It just does. Tell yourself that multiplication is just repeated addition, then use a calculator and move on. There's no reason why 3 and 2 make 5. We just assigned those symbols to three different concepts that happen to all work out in reality when you're counting 3 apples and 2 apples.
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May 25, 2014 22:35
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Feminition posted:why would you need to multiply 53 by 34 w/o a calculator exactly But you did have to multiply (3x+4)(2x+1). The idea is exactly the same if we teach our students the non-bullshit way: (50+3)(30+4)....
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May 25, 2014 22:35
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waffle posted:*is in a country well below average in math and science performance and has been for years* ... naaaaaaaah 23 + 3 + 20 7 + 16 + 9 = 301,929
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May 25, 2014 22:35
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Feminition posted:why would you need to multiply 53 by 34 w/o a calculator exactly What field are you in and are you in graduate or undergrad?
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May 25, 2014 22:35
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Accretionist posted:Some of that seems waaay too dumbed down. Describing things with varied words (and techniques) is meant to prevent the ossification of thinking, so that the kids hopefully remain in contact with the concepts rather than just viewing everything as a rigid and disconnected system of algorithms and jargon.
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May 25, 2014 22:36
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May 25, 2014 22:36
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kids should start with set theory to explain integration then add in all the algebra and high school arithmetic bullshit as necessary
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May 25, 2014 22:37
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Marko Rodin lecturing on the common core https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fI93jeaXGvs&t=13327s
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May 25, 2014 22:37
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Widestancer posted:What field are you in and are you in graduate or undergrad? microbio/biotech undergrad, work in a computational lab obv i'm not a math major good lord
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May 25, 2014 22:37
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It's become nothing more than a money grab by private industry. My college even has Pearson and Houghton Mufflin produced classes that we're required to take in order to get a BA in Elementary Education.
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Akumu posted:Describing things with varied words (and techniques) is meant to prevent the ossification of thinking, so that the kids hopefully remain in contact with the concepts rather than just viewing everything as a rigid and disconnected system of algorithms and jargon. Your post had too many syllables and most of those words the kids will never have to use when they flip burgers and open hotdog stands in Reform, AL Please apologize you might gently caress up our kids
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May 25, 2014 22:37
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roymorrison posted:pretty sure kids dont suck at math because the teaching method is bad, they suck at math because theyre kids and math sucks compared to fun. Math is no fun because the teaching method is bad. Here, have another article from a Ph.D. mathematician: http://www.maa.org/sites/default/files/pdf/devlin/LockhartsLament.pdf
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May 25, 2014 22:38
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waffle posted:
lol must suck to be those smart nerd countries getting turbo dunked by america at any objectively measurable standard that people actually give a gently caress about like poo poo posts per capita etc
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May 25, 2014 22:39
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Fushin posted:It's become nothing more than a money grab by private industry. My college even has Pearson and Houghton Mufflin produced classes that we're required to take in order to get a BA in Elementary Education. Wrong: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/edward-frenkel-/common-core-standards-for_1_b_4079831.html Textbook publishers are fighting common core.
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May 25, 2014 22:39
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waffle posted:sure the way we were taught was totally effective at teaching us math and logical thinking, there's no reason to change it, gently caress this dumb new way because it's different *learns math the same way as the rest of the world* *is american, so sucks poo poo at it*
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May 25, 2014 22:40
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Fushin posted:It's become nothing more than a money grab by private industry. My college even has Pearson and Houghton Mufflin produced classes that we're required to take in order to get a BA in Elementary Education. so you found a husband yet?
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May 25, 2014 22:40
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Feminition posted:lmao this is just such fuckin bullshit not necessarily because the methodology is wrong but that these kids are gonna be so fuckin lost when they get to university and their professors aren't gonna be interested in this poo poo pretty sure professors aren't going to be teaching kids how to subtract
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May 25, 2014 22:40
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Feminition posted:microbio/biotech undergrad, work in a computational lab The software you use in biotech work uses extremely complex equations to model the various compounds used, for example. This stuff works pretty well and kids actually eat it up when taught well; the people having problems with it are the parents. Would you rather teach kids or supervise lab personnel who understand broad logic concepts that can be cross applied (which is what this does) or who have been taught to a specific test and nothing more (the old way)?
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May 25, 2014 22:40
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Concerned Citizen posted:pretty sure professors aren't going to be teaching kids how to subtract I'm a math professor. I'd rather every freshman student I had be taught by common core so I wouldn't see: (-1)*1^(2/3) =... I'd simplify it, but I don't have a calculator. This was in a Calc. 2 class.
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May 25, 2014 22:42
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The White Dragon posted:i dunno maybe it's because we have an abnormally high number of parents who don't give a gently caress Gulzin posted:Math is no fun because the teaching method is bad.
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May 25, 2014 22:42
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Design Spots posted:The american government. 0bama or b0ener?
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May 25, 2014 22:43
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May 25, 2014 22:43
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common core vaporwave witch house
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http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2014/03/07/about-that-common-core-math-problem-making-the-rounds-on-facebook/
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